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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 5:15:47 GMT
There's a constituency poll? no, it's merely an extrapolation of a national poll. By-elections tend to show larger swings against the government than national polls do (Newport West was a bit of an exception), and I'm referring to the ComRes national poll, which showed a swing from Conservative to Lib Dem of 13.75% - more than enough to take this seat. Not as far gone as Montgomeryshire and the LDs also hold the Assembly seat. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Apr 22, 2019 11:23:10 GMT
If Kirsty stood she would certainly be a shoo in though Labour would be loath to lose her at Education, and her vote is important in propping up the Labour Government in Wales. The Lib Dems candidate will be Jane Dodds, she has already been selected as PPC regardless of whether this comes to a by-election. Both statements are probably correct. Dodds will be the candidate. Williams would be a shoo in. That Kirsty is in Cardiff Bay rather than in Westminster is - arguably - to the detriment of the party. (Bit like the Scottish Conservative scenario.) |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Apr 23, 2019 10:28:20 GMT
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Apr 23, 2019 11:30:42 GMT
£1500 fine, costs and 50 hours community service.
The Speaker of The Commons will now write to Powys Council to start a recall petition.
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Post by mboy on Apr 23, 2019 11:42:47 GMT
It very inconvenient timing with the Euros now probably on. Will there be the spare resource to campaign for sigs here now?
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Post by Tony Otim on Apr 23, 2019 11:50:39 GMT
It very inconvenient timing with the Euros now probably on. Will there be the spare resource to campaign for sigs here now? I would have thought this was a far better use of your resources in Wales. Let's face it neither of our parties will come close to getting an MEP in Wales, but you'd have a real chance in this seat... |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Apr 23, 2019 11:52:42 GMT
It very inconvenient timing with the Euros now probably on. Will there be the spare resource to campaign for sigs here now? A LD Campaign HQ has opened in the Constituency. As for clashing with the Euros, given the LDs have never won a MEP in Wales I would hope the party's campaigners will focus on the petition rather than the elections. The petition is open for six weeks, so will outrun the Euros so I don't see the timing as being problematic. Edit: Beaten to it by Tony |
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Post by The Bishop on Apr 23, 2019 11:55:27 GMT
It surely should be possible for a decent campaign to manage both anyway?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 23, 2019 13:07:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 13:36:17 GMT
It very inconvenient timing with the Euros now probably on. Will there be the spare resource to campaign for sigs here now? I would have thought this was a far better use of your resources in Wales. Let's face it neither of our parties will come close to getting an MEP in Wales, but you'd have a real chance in this seat... If they're really serious about getting as many pro-EU MEPs as possible, surely they should focus entirely on this and give Plaid a free-run at the fourth Welsh seat? |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Apr 23, 2019 13:40:07 GMT
Incidentally, Davies hasn't been suspended from the party or parliamentary group. Slap on the wrist |
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Post by BucksDucks on Apr 23, 2019 15:10:47 GMT
It very inconvenient timing with the Euros now probably on. Will there be the spare resource to campaign for sigs here now? I think they need to focus resources entirely on the recall petition in B&R. We stand a far greater chance of making gain in any by-election there than winning a seat in Wales come the European elections. It would likely lead to greater publicity too. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 16:03:08 GMT
Would be funny if there isn’t one after all!
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Post by ricmk on Apr 23, 2019 16:23:00 GMT
Incidentally, Davies hasn't been suspended from the party or parliamentary group. Slap on the wrist If this does go to a recall election, having narrowly hit the 10% threshold, the Conservative selection will be fascinating. The Tories won't be able to get away with such a lukewarm statement if they have to decide to back or dump him. Or will they take the Richmond Park approach and duck nominating so he can run as an "Independent" Probably with the same result. And right now, a single vote off the Government's majority counts. |
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Post by greenhert on Apr 23, 2019 16:45:41 GMT
I hope the recall petition succeeds. Chris Davies' sentence was what I consider "unduly lenient" given the seriousness of his offence.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Apr 23, 2019 17:02:40 GMT
Would be funny if there isn’t one after all! Could go the way of Gorton. By-election called; just gets into its stride and ... GE called !  |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Apr 23, 2019 17:05:20 GMT
£1500 fine, costs and 50 hours community service. The Speaker of The Commons will now write to Powys Council to start a recall petition. Perhaps quite unfairly I imagine Powys Council receiving the letter via its Secretary & Solicitor who then arranges for it to be placed before the appropriate committee at its next scheduled meeting in September, subject to the Chairman being available (he might be at the ram sales which would require the meeting to be rearranged) ...  |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Apr 23, 2019 17:39:26 GMT
£1500 fine, costs and 50 hours community service. The Speaker of The Commons will now write to Powys Council to start a recall petition. Perhaps quite unfairly I imagine Powys Council receiving the letter via its Secretary & Solicitor who then arranges for it to be placed before the appropriate committee at its next scheduled meeting in September, subject to the Chairman being available (he might be at the ram sales which would require the meeting to be rearranged) ... Won't they require it to be translated into Welsh first? |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Apr 23, 2019 17:43:47 GMT
Perhaps quite unfairly I imagine Powys Council receiving the letter via its Secretary & Solicitor who then arranges for it to be placed before the appropriate committee at its next scheduled meeting in September, subject to the Chairman being available (he might be at the ram sales which would require the meeting to be rearranged) ... Won't they require it to be translated into Welsh first? Not for Radnorshire. Not for Radnorshire. Speaking Welsh in Radnorshire was once memorably described as comparable to being gay in the 80s. Tolerated. Between consenting adults. In private. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Apr 23, 2019 17:46:05 GMT
Won't they require it to be translated into Welsh first? Not for Radnorshire. Not for Radnorshire. Speaking Welsh in Radnorshire was once memorably described as comparable to being gay in the 80s. Tolerated. Between consenting adults. In private. Is this a place where they would happily dump Welsh-language road signs, if they were allowed to? |
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