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Post by mrpastelito on Mar 25, 2019 20:04:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 21:05:46 GMT
I think the petition will most likely fail. If I am mistaken and a by-election does take place though, I would predict a fairly comfortable Lib Dem gain.
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Post by greenhert on Mar 25, 2019 21:23:05 GMT
Actually such a petition is likely to succeed, given the nature of Chris Davies' crimes. People hate expenses cheats.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 25, 2019 21:27:18 GMT
Watching BBC Two right now is bringing it all back.
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Post by iain on Mar 25, 2019 21:27:27 GMT
Actually such a petition is likely to succeed, given the nature of Chris Davies' crimes. People hate expenses cheats. Difficult constituency to organise in though, and people may not want to trek to their nearest signing station. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Mar 25, 2019 21:29:32 GMT
Actually such a petition is likely to succeed, given the nature of Chris Davies' crimes. People hate expenses cheats. Probably if he'd gained from it. But given that he was stupid rather than thieving ... |
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Post by curiousliberal on Mar 25, 2019 21:33:44 GMT
Actually such a petition is likely to succeed, given the nature of Chris Davies' crimes. People hate expenses cheats. Probably if he'd gained from it. But given that he was stupid rather than thieving ...He did not gain directly from it, but still knowingly broke the law: this was not a legal slip-up. To be honest, I'm not sure why he did it. What could he stand to gain, besides the minimisation of the public impression of his expense claims? Or was he not aware that he was able to gain the £700 legitimately? Either way, it doesn't seem worth it to me, but neither did Onasanya's cheating, and arrogance still won the day there. I reckon the presumptuousness alone would be enough to fire up 10% of his constituents. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 25, 2019 21:43:51 GMT
A reminder that Denis MacShane was jailed for fraudulent expenses claiming, when he could have claimed legitimately for everything.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Mar 25, 2019 22:21:02 GMT
Actually such a petition is likely to succeed, given the nature of Chris Davies' crimes. People hate expenses cheats. Difficult constituency to organise in though, and people may not want to trek to their nearest signing station. Getting 10% of the electorate to sign a petition over a six week period seems easier than running and winning a by-election to me. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 23:17:42 GMT
Actually such a petition is likely to succeed, given the nature of Chris Davies' crimes. People hate expenses cheats. Do they? People make an awful lot of noise about MPs' expenses and how they claim too much, and then vote them back in again. |
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Post by mboy on Mar 25, 2019 23:42:17 GMT
I think the petition will most likely fail. If I am mistaken and a by-election does take place though, I would predict a fairly comfortable Lib Dem gain. Given the latter, we will ensure the former or die trying. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 6:36:17 GMT
LD: 49%
CON: 39%
LAB: 9%
PC: 2%
OTH: 1%
LD gain from CON
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Post by Chris from Brum on Mar 26, 2019 8:54:24 GMT
LD: 49% CON: 39% LAB: 9% PC: 2% OTH: 1% LD gain from CON Your prediction or a local poll? If the latter, then which source? |
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Post by yellowperil on Mar 26, 2019 9:38:15 GMT
LD: 49% CON: 39% LAB: 9% PC: 2% OTH: 1% LD gain from CON has polled himself Your prediction or a local poll? If the latter, then which source? I think @conservativeestimate has polled himself, in his inimitable fashion. I'll take his result, thank you. |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Mar 26, 2019 10:40:47 GMT
Your prediction or a local poll? If the latter, then which source? I think @conservativeestimate has polled himself, in his inimitable fashion. I'll take his result, thank you. Anyone else remember Paul Way (?) from UKPR who used to 'conduct' his own 'polls' in seats right across the UK? |
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Post by borisminor on Mar 26, 2019 11:52:49 GMT
Actually such a petition is likely to succeed, given the nature of Chris Davies' crimes. People hate expenses cheats. Probably if he'd gained from it. But given that he was stupid rather than thieving ... I don't think the general public will recognise the subtlety in the position they will see 'Local MP pleads guilty to a false expenses claim' and more than likely vote to recall him. |
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Post by john07 on Mar 26, 2019 11:56:22 GMT
A reminder that Denis MacShane was jailed for fraudulent expenses claiming, when he could have claimed legitimately for everything. That reminds me of the Father Ted episode where Ted gets a lift from John (I killed JR) who promptly stops and holds up the post office with a shotgun. He claims that it was his money but he couldnt do with filling in the forms. |
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Post by redtony on Mar 26, 2019 12:21:21 GMT
Tell you what, if you thought that recall petitions were going to just gather dust from lack of use.... Is this a first two recall petitions at the same time?
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Mar 26, 2019 12:24:19 GMT
Tell you what, if you thought that recall petitions were going to just gather dust from lack of use.... Is this a first two recall petitions at the same time?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 12:31:16 GMT
LD: 49% CON: 39% LAB: 9% PC: 2% OTH: 1% LD gain from CON Your prediction or a local poll? If the latter, then which source? My prediction. |
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