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Post by ricmk on Mar 26, 2019 12:53:28 GMT
As I type 5,811 people in Brecon and Radnorshire have signed a certain petition. I imagine that there will be a large cross-over between people prepared to sign that petition and those willing to sign a recall petition. Game on I reckon.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 16:17:42 GMT
As I type 5,811 people in Brecon and Radnorshire have signed a certain petition. I imagine that there will be a large cross-over between people prepared to sign that petition and those willing to sign a recall petition. Game on I reckon. That'd be an interesting poll - voting intention of those who signed the petition. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 16:48:27 GMT
As I type 5,811 people in Brecon and Radnorshire have signed a certain petition. I imagine that there will be a large cross-over between people prepared to sign that petition and those willing to sign a recall petition. Game on I reckon. I'm not too sure, I suspect Powys had quite a lot of remain-voting Tories..... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 17:08:45 GMT
As I type 5,811 people in Brecon and Radnorshire have signed a certain petition. I imagine that there will be a large cross-over between people prepared to sign that petition and those willing to sign a recall petition. Game on I reckon. I'm not too sure, I suspect Powys had quite a lot of remain-voting Tories..... If I were someone who'd voted Tory in 2015 and 2017 here, I'd vote LD in a by-election because of what's gone on with the MP rather than because of the petition. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 19:50:31 GMT
Off topic but I hate the name “Brecon and Radnorshire” and wish the constituency would revert to it’s former name of “Brecon and Radnor”.
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Post by John Chanin on Mar 26, 2019 19:53:54 GMT
Off topic but I hate the name “Brecon and Radnorshire” and wish the constituency would revert to it’s former name of “Brecon and Radnor”. You're going to have to fight with Foggy . The Conservatives insisted, in Wales and Scotland alike, on returning to "traditional counties". |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Mar 26, 2019 19:56:33 GMT
Off topic but I hate the name “Brecon and Radnorshire” and wish the constituency would revert to it’s former name of “Brecon and Radnor”. You're going to have to fight with Foggy . The Conservatives insisted, in Wales and Scotland alike, on returning to "traditional counties". Then why not Brecknockshire? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 19:57:14 GMT
Off topic but I hate the name “Brecon and Radnorshire” and wish the constituency would revert to it’s former name of “Brecon and Radnor”. You're going to have to fight with Foggy . The Conservatives insisted, in Wales and Scotland alike, on returning to "traditional counties". Oh I don’t take issue with traditional counties, I always write “Sutherland” in my address rather than “Highland”. However, the name of this constituency is overly long and the “shire” part of the name could be axed while still respecting the traditional counties. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 21:01:43 GMT
Off topic but I hate the name “Brecon and Radnorshire” and wish the constituency would revert to it’s former name of “Brecon and Radnor”. Montgomeryshire = Montgomery |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Mar 26, 2019 21:36:34 GMT
Off topic but I hate the name “Brecon and Radnorshire” and wish the constituency would revert to it’s former name of “Brecon and Radnor”. Montgomeryshire = Montgomery No. It’s Montgomeryshire, no discussion 😉 |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 26, 2019 23:30:23 GMT
The Welsh name for Montgomeryshire is Sîr Maldwyn, which is a much more beautiful name.
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Post by johnloony on Mar 27, 2019 0:00:27 GMT
I always refer to Brecon & Radnor as Brecon & Radnor, and not -shire.
I prefer to refer to Montgomery as Montygoompoop.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 27, 2019 0:12:29 GMT
Have you thought of having treatment.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 6:18:10 GMT
The Welsh name for Montgomeryshire is Sîr Maldwyn, which is a much more beautiful name. Whatever you call it, it’s a safe Tory seat now. |
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Post by andrew111 on Mar 27, 2019 6:55:19 GMT
The Welsh name for Montgomeryshire is Sîr Maldwyn, which is a much more beautiful name. Whatever you call it, it’s a safe Tory seat now. Not in a by-election it isn't |
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Post by andrew111 on Mar 27, 2019 8:06:09 GMT
If I were someone who'd voted Tory in 2015 and 2017 here, I'd vote LD in a by-election because of what's gone on with the MP rather than because of the petition. Why? It is not pleasant to be let down by a person but should that change one's complete view of politics and the political stance one adopts? Conservative MP guilty of foolish error and pays a severe price. Is that a good and sufficient reason to rush off and embrace the LDs who have also had MPs sent down in recent years and a Welsh MP of very odd proclivities? And if so give your reasons for such an odd idea. If a labour supporter one votes labour. If your MP is sent down briefly for being silly over a speeding ticket, one does not then turn into a LD or a Conservative out of pique unless one is a complete and utter moron. Yes. Quite right, the sins of the previous MP should not be visited on the next candidate. It is perhaps a little different if the law breaking was sanctioned by the Party though, as in fiddling election expenses, treating voters, false postal votes etc |
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Post by curiousliberal on Mar 27, 2019 8:10:01 GMT
Why? It is not pleasant to be let down by a person but should that change one's complete view of politics and the political stance one adopts? Conservative MP guilty of foolish error and pays a severe price. Is that a good and sufficient reason to rush off and embrace the LDs who have also had MPs sent down in recent years and a Welsh MP of very odd proclivities? And if so give your reasons for such an odd idea. If a labour supporter one votes labour. If your MP is sent down briefly for being silly over a speeding ticket, one does not then turn into a LD or a Conservative out of pique unless one is a complete and utter moron. It is perhaps a little different if the law breaking was sanctioned by the Party though, as in fiddling election expenses, treating voters, false postal votes etc In general it's often less an attack on the new candidate and more a criticism of the association/wider party for having the poor judgement to pick the old one ("if they were that bad, how can we trust this one?"). |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Mar 27, 2019 8:53:23 GMT
The Welsh name for Montgomeryshire is Sîr Maldwyn, which is a much more beautiful name. And Montgomery town itself is Trefaldwyn. |
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 27, 2019 9:02:10 GMT
Yes. Quite right, the sins of the previous MP should not be visited on the next candidate. It is perhaps a little different if the law breaking was sanctioned by the Party though, as in fiddling election expenses, treating voters, false postal votes etc In general it's often less an attack on the new candidate and more a criticism of the association/wider party for having the poor judgement to pick the old one ("if they were that bad, how can we trust this one?"). But given Peterborough's history there would be a Monster Raving Loony majority. Given the Mps of both parties they have had in recent years they wouldnt notice the difference |
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 27, 2019 9:40:37 GMT
But given Peterborough's history there would be a Monster Raving Loony majority. Given the Mps of both parties they have had in recent years they wouldnt notice the difference This is not like you Mike, to join in with the 'silly talk' squad? Most of the electorate in a constituency know very little about the MP and have never met them and might not be able to pick them out in a lineout or know their name. They are as you so often contend voting the 'party ticket'. They are voting for a faction, a set of generalized ideals, a group of ministers, a set of ideas and policies and a PM or potential PM. The candidate is their token to that end. They might not notice the nature or the quality of the local representative that much unless it happens to be especially good or bad. What they are doing is making a composite vote for a PM, Government and set of policies and the candidate is fairly irrelevant, which is as well for most of them as they are unlikely to move much vote on a personal level! Your comment is flip and dismissive and suggests recent MPs were so bad as MPs and as people they be indistinguishable from an actual or pretend lunatic and just as acceptable to them? That is at one and the same time a gross slur on Peterborough MPs and that electorate. The MPs who fall victim to circumstance are just that and any other MP could fall from grace in a similar manner. Like all of life it is as much chance as anything else. Any of us might fall it is so easy to 'get it wrong' and then panic and cock it all up. They are not especial demonic awful people with deranged characters but ordinary human beings with failings like the rest of us. Their fate was to be discovered in their humanity. But just look at who has represented Peterborough . O K it wasn't a serious comment but they do reflect the fact that Parliament really does contain all sorts |
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