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Post by finsobruce on Jul 23, 2018 20:25:44 GMT
I don’t have a prejudicial attitude against the Welsh language. I’m currently sitting in a pub with a Welsh name, in a village with a Welsh name. The beer is Welsh, but has an English name. But that doesn’t change the fact that when my train was announced at Cardiff Queen Street, the vast majority of people ignored the first announcement and waited for the useful announcement in English. And long may it continue. Gives me a headstart securing a seat.  Leading Lib Dem ex-councillor admits to receiving preferential treatment on public transport.  |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Jul 23, 2018 20:28:41 GMT
And long may it continue. Gives me a headstart securing a seat. I went for more beer in Trefforest. When the train back to Cardiff pulled in, the English announcement didn’t start until the train was in the platform drowning out the announcement. Why bother. I then changed at Radyr for the City Line to Ninian Park. There it was even worse- the English announcement started after the doors had closed. And it’s not a long announcement as the train terminated at Central! |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jul 23, 2018 21:18:09 GMT
Can we have a translation in Welsh please? Nid wyf yn y swyddfa ar hyn o bryd. Anfonwch unrhyw waith i'w gyfieithu. |
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Post by AdminSTB on Jul 23, 2018 21:59:36 GMT
I went for more beer in Trefforest. When the train back to Cardiff pulled in, the English announcement didn’t start until the train was in the platform drowning out the announcement. Why bother. I then changed at Radyr for the City Line to Ninian Park. There it was even worse- the English announcement started after the doors had closed. And it’s not a long announcement as the train terminated at Central! Oh mate, the 17:20 from Crewe to Cardiff Central goes down the Heart of Wales Line. They haven't even finished one announcement before they get to Nantwich. |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Jul 23, 2018 22:05:50 GMT
I then changed at Radyr for the City Line to Ninian Park. There it was even worse- the English announcement started after the doors had closed. And it’s not a long announcement as the train terminated at Central! Oh mate, the 17:20 from Crewe to Cardiff Central goes down the Heart of Wales Line. They haven't even finished one announcement before they get to Nantwich. The Pwllheli trains are also glorious for that. Bring back Yarmouth to Barmouth services. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Jul 23, 2018 22:17:28 GMT
I don’t have a prejudicial attitude against the Welsh language. I’m currently sitting in a pub with a Welsh name, in a village with a Welsh name. The beer is Welsh, but has an English name. But that doesn’t change the fact that when my train was announced at Cardiff Queen Street, the vast majority of people ignored the first announcement and waited for the useful announcement in English. And long may it continue. Gives me a headstart securing a seat. I don't know why train announcements are now designed as the start of a two-minute race to get on the bloody thing before it pulls out anyway, especially at a terminus when the sodding thing has been sat by the platform for 20 minutes beforehand. I suppose doing them in Welsh first adds to the fun; maybe for the rest of the country they could be in Latin or better yet Classical Greek. Sorry, this is about as far off-topic as possible, maybe I should start a Random Irritations thread. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 22:20:21 GMT
And long may it continue. Gives me a headstart securing a seat. I don't know why train announcements are now designed as the start of a two-minute race to get on the bloody thing before it pulls out anyway, especially at a terminus when the sodding thing has been sat by the platform for 20 minutes beforehand. I suppose doing them in Welsh first adds to the fun; maybe for the rest of the country they could be in Latin or better yet Classical Greek. Sorry, this is about as far off-topic as possible, maybe I should start a Random Irritations thread. It seems odd that we don't have one of those or a languages thread yet! |
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Post by greenchristian on Jul 23, 2018 22:20:40 GMT
And long may it continue. Gives me a headstart securing a seat. I don't know why train announcements are now designed as the start of a two-minute race to get on the bloody thing before it pulls out anyway, especially at a terminus when the sodding thing has been sat by the platform for 20 minutes beforehand. I suppose doing them in Welsh first adds to the fun; maybe for the rest of the country they could be in Latin or better yet Classical Greek. Sorry, this is about as far off-topic as possible, maybe I should start a Random Irritations thread. I thought that trains were always on-topic. Though not necessarily on time. |
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Post by yellowperil on Jul 24, 2018 6:35:01 GMT
I don’t have a prejudicial attitude against the Welsh language. I’m currently sitting in a pub with a Welsh name, in a village with a Welsh name. The beer is Welsh, but has an English name. But that doesn’t change the fact that when my train was announced at Cardiff Queen Street, the vast majority of people ignored the first announcement and waited for the useful announcement in English. And long may it continue. Gives me a headstart securing a seat. council,or parliamentary? |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 24, 2018 16:01:54 GMT
I can manage in reading simple Welsh on a good day and I have a good Welsh dictionary at home if needs be. Don't ask me to speak any though, it's been a long time since my grandfather died. That isn't really the point though. How is (for example) your Finnish? Puhun vähän suomea. (Iain can sort any Welsh) |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 24, 2018 16:04:38 GMT
I would regard posting in anything other than the language which everyone speaks to be attention seeking, nothing more or less. I also carries the risk of being made to look a fool. I am always minded of the Irish Government which decreed that "Dear Sir" and "Yours faithfully" on all official letters had to be in Erse. One such letter was sent to an English ministry. They replied with "Dear Sir" and "Yours faithfully" in English, but the main text in Erse. The Irish had to ask for a translation. My mum worked in a government department where they received a letter in Welsh, from an address in North Wales, and sent it to the office in Wrexham for help. Wrexham sent it back. It wasn't in Welsh, it was just so appallingly spelled that it wasn't recognisable as English. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jul 24, 2018 16:09:17 GMT
I would regard posting in anything other than the language which everyone speaks to be attention seeking, nothing more or less. I also carries the risk of being made to look a fool. I am always minded of the Irish Government which decreed that "Dear Sir" and "Yours faithfully" on all official letters had to be in Erse. One such letter was sent to an English ministry. They replied with "Dear Sir" and "Yours faithfully" in English, but the main text in Erse. The Irish had to ask for a translation. My mum worked in a government department where they received a letter in Welsh, from an address in North Wales, and sent it to the office in Wrexham for help. Wrexham sent it back. It wasn't in Welsh, it was just so appallingly spelled that it wasn't recognisable as English. doesn't always apply to the English, never mind the Welsh! P.S. This discussion really should be on another thread. P.P.S. I fear that - like railways and beer - the Welsh language is never off-topic. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 24, 2018 16:10:10 GMT
I don't know why train announcements are now designed as the start of a two-minute race to get on the bloody thing before it pulls out anyway, especially at a terminus when the sodding thing has been sat by the platform for 20 minutes beforehand. I suppose doing them in Welsh first adds to the fun; maybe for the rest of the country they could be in Latin or better yet Classical Greek. Sorry, this is about as far off-topic as possible, maybe I should start a Random Irritations thread. It seems odd that we don't have one of those or a languages thread yet! We did have a language thread at one point I'm sure. The multilingual would be the most overrepresented members of this site, were it not for Welsh speakers, real ale drinkers, Scots and supporters of surprising sport teams. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 24, 2018 16:11:06 GMT
My mum worked in a government department where they received a letter in Welsh, from an address in North Wales, and sent it to the office in Wrexham for help. Wrexham sent it back. It wasn't in Welsh, it was just so appallingly spelled that it wasn't recognisable as English. doesn't always apply to the English, never mind the Welsh! P.S. This discussion really should be on another thread. P.P.S. I fear that - like railways and beer - the Welsh language is never off-topic. As I say, it was from North East Wales, so English was likely their second language after pseudo-Scouse. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jul 24, 2018 16:36:46 GMT
It seems odd that we don't have one of those or a languages thread yet! We did have a language thread at one point I'm sure. The multilingual would be the most overrepresented members of this site, were it not for Welsh speakers, real ale drinkers, Scots and supporters of surprising sport teams. Borough United. Great team. Reached the European Cup Winners Cup one year. |
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Post by Khunanup on Jul 24, 2018 18:17:34 GMT
And long may it continue. Gives me a headstart securing a seat. I don't know why train announcements are now designed as the start of a two-minute race to get on the bloody thing before it pulls out anyway, especially at a terminus when the sodding thing has been sat by the platform for 20 minutes beforehand. I suppose doing them in Welsh first adds to the fun; maybe for the rest of the country they could be in Latin or better yet Classical Greek. Sorry, this is about as far off-topic as possible, maybe I should start a Random Irritations thread. Do them in Middle Egyptian. As none of our settlements existed when that was an extant language they'd be mercifully short... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2018 18:24:33 GMT
I wonder if the 26th July by-elections will be as interesting as the last three pages.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Jul 24, 2018 18:34:58 GMT
My mum worked in a government department where they received a letter in Welsh, from an address in North Wales, and sent it to the office in Wrexham for help. Wrexham sent it back. It wasn't in Welsh, it was just so appallingly spelled that it wasn't recognisable as English. doesn't always apply to the English, never mind the Welsh! P.S. This discussion really should be on another thread. P.P.S. I fear that - like railways and beer - the Welsh language is never off-topic.
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Post by andrewp on Jul 25, 2018 18:08:54 GMT
I know the Conservatives have issues with their candidate in Merthyr, but there is a possibility of them receiving an embarrassingly low number of votes
I assume that the vast majority on this forum would rather their party put a candidate in a ward where they are likely to get a derisory vote, than not to stand? Does anyone think its not worth it in order to avoid the embarrassment?
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jul 25, 2018 18:14:18 GMT
I know the Conservatives have issues with their candidate in Merthyr, but there is a possibility of them receiving an embarrassingly low number of votes I assume that the vast majority on this forum would rather their party put a candidate in a ward where they are likely to get a derisory vote, than not to stand? Does anyone think its not worth it in order to avoid the embarrassment? Always put a candidate up, it gives people an opportunity to vote for you if they wish, and they think you are at least trying for their vote, even on paper. |
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