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Post by Old Fashioned Leftie on Feb 25, 2018 11:50:42 GMT
Littlehampton is a very grim little town. I can’t see the soy latte overspill from Brighton colonising that far west. For some reason my primary school used to take us there on trips (this is the very early 70s). The reason would be on grounds (coffee pun) of cost i guess. Littlehampton is a latte fuss about nothing, instant regret when visiting years ago. Caught the espresso train home. |
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Post by finsobruce on Feb 25, 2018 12:05:05 GMT
For some reason my primary school used to take us there on trips (this is the very early 70s). The reason would be on grounds (coffee pun) of cost i guess. Littlehampton is a latte fuss about nothing, instant regret when visiting years ago. Caught the espresso train home. your views are percolating through to us very clearly. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 12:09:42 GMT
Littlehampton is a latte fuss about nothing, instant regret when visiting years ago. Caught the espresso train home. your views are percolating through to us very clearly. This threads not exactly boiling over is it. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Feb 25, 2018 12:42:33 GMT
your views are percolating through to us very clearly. This threads not exactly boiling over is it. I wouldn’t go that far old bean |
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Post by yellowperil on Feb 25, 2018 12:45:25 GMT
I think some of you are a bit harsh on Littlehampton- the town centre is, shall we say unpretentious,but the beach area is fine, especially the dune area on the west beach, and the Arun waterfront is pleasant enough.I would say of those West Sussex seaside resorts I prefer it to Worthing or Bognor. Politically it is quite mixed - my guess is that Labour are most likely to advance in the areas currently Tory in the northern suburbs.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Feb 25, 2018 14:18:54 GMT
It's not exactly a fast service to London, nor is there much employment likely to attract in the sort of electors the Brighton effect is generally put down to, so there's no particular reason Littlehampton should be seeing the same effect as Worthing or Brighton. If Labour does do well there, it'll be more about our traditional small-town electorate.
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Post by yellowperil on Feb 25, 2018 15:09:53 GMT
Littlehampton is a very grim little town. I can’t see the soy latte overspill from Brighton colonising that far west. Labour has been quite strong there in the past, though - and could be again. Gains there next year are certainly not out of the question I would have thought. I am as may have become obvious quite interested in Littlehampton and hoped to finally bury all those excruciating coffee puns. I have been back through the Littlehampton results to examine the Bishop's claim above ,not going back into the last century as it then all gets a bit tenuous,but at least back to 2003 which does confirm the Bishop's first statement -Labour on 7 seats out of 10 at district level then, to 2 Lib Dems and 1 Con.By 2007 it was 4 Lib Dems to 3 each for Tories and Labour, and by 2011 it had gone to 7 Tories to 2 Lab and one Lib Dem and by 2015 it was 4 Con, 3 Lib Dem, 2 UKIP and 1 Labour. The present distribution at Town Council level,btw, is 9 LibDem to 3 each for Tories and Labour. Success at TC level sometimes works against performance at District and County,of course. Looking at the last four district elections two factors have clearly muddied the waters- one the rise of UKIP, and it will be interesting to see where the UKIP vote goes next time,and secondly the boundary changes which took effect in 2015 and reduced the number of wards from 5 to 4 - still 10 members, and in effect simple splitting Ham ward in 2 and adding 1 member to River and 1 to Wick& Toddington (renamed as Courtwick and Toddington). Ham ward had been the strongest Labour ward and the change was damaging to Labour and to a lesser degree Lib Dems ( weakening their position in River) and strongly favouring the Conservatives. I repeat what I said earlier, that Labour's best chance of a recovery is probably in the north in the Courtwick/Toddinton ward and in Brookfield, while the Lib Dems will probably consolidate their position in River and Beach. On EAL's point about employment, yes the industrial basis has distinctly weakened in the last few years . My son worked in the town as an industrial chemist and two jobs (at Body Shop HQ and at Kingfisher) disappeared under him- that will be a common experience.He keeps telling me that employment prospects in Littlehampton are mainly about care homes - signs of the times for UK generally, not just Littlehampton. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Feb 25, 2018 15:30:58 GMT
Looking at election results, I can't see any reason to believe that Labour prospects are substantially (if at all) worse in River than in Brookfield.
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Post by k9 on Feb 25, 2018 16:11:28 GMT
During the Counties last year the Liberal Democrats gained Rustington to add to the two County seats they had covering Littlehampton which seems to confirm their dominance of the town including control of the town council. They also hold a County seat in Bongor.
Even Jeffery Archer in 'First Amongst Equals' cites a Liberal gain of Littlehampton!
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Post by yellowperil on Feb 25, 2018 18:06:09 GMT
During the Counties last year the Liberal Democrats gained Rustington to add to the two County seats they had covering Littlehampton which seems to confirm their dominance of the town including control of the town council. They also hold a County seat in Bongor. Even Jeffery Archer in 'First Amongst Equals' cites a Liberal gain of Littlehampton! Rustington I would say has quite a different feel to Littlehampton, even though they are closely adjacent. Littlehampton seems to have a somewhat anarchic youthful vibe whereas Rustington feels a geriatric retirement place and much more genteel. |
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Post by Khunanup on Feb 25, 2018 19:41:01 GMT
Littlehampton (and Bognor therefore obviously) is more in the orbit of Portsmouth than Brighton so the overspill from B&H really does stop at Worthing.
It should be remembered that B&H's pull on its surrounding area is relatively small as it itself is very much part of London's orbit thanks to the fast transport links. On almost every economic driver, public and private sector, Portsmouth, Southampton and Reading are more industry significant in their own right in comparison to Brighton and Hove.
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Post by Foggy on Feb 25, 2018 20:31:58 GMT
Littlehampton (and Bognor therefore obviously) is more in the orbit of Portsmouth than Brighton so the overspill from B&H really does stop at Worthing. It should be remembered that B&H's pull on its surrounding area is relatively small as it itself is very much part of London's orbit thanks to the fast transport links. On almost every economic driver, public and private sector, Portsmouth, Southampton and Reading are more industry significant in their own right in comparison to Brighton and Hove. Are Reading's transport links to London really slower than Brighton's? |
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Post by Khunanup on Feb 25, 2018 20:48:28 GMT
Littlehampton (and Bognor therefore obviously) is more in the orbit of Portsmouth than Brighton so the overspill from B&H really does stop at Worthing. It should be remembered that B&H's pull on its surrounding area is relatively small as it itself is very much part of London's orbit thanks to the fast transport links. On almost every economic driver, public and private sector, Portsmouth, Southampton and Reading are more industry significant in their own right in comparison to Brighton and Hove. Are Reading's transport links to London really slower than Brighton's? No, but Berkshire is a hub for business both national and multinational whereas Brighton and Hove is primarily a residential and tourist community. There's not much in the way of manufacturing or businesses based there. On the Sussex coast its Hastings and Shoreham that are the main manufacturing centres and the business hq hub in Sussex is centred on Crawley and stretching down towards Haywards Heath and over to Horsham. |
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Post by andrewteale on Feb 25, 2018 21:26:29 GMT
Are Reading's transport links to London really slower than Brighton's? No, but Berkshire is a hub for business both national and multinational whereas Brighton and Hove is primarily a residential and tourist community. There's not much in the way of manufacturing or businesses based there. On the Sussex coast its Hastings and Shoreham that are the main manufacturing centres and the business hq hub in Sussex is centred on Crawley and stretching down towards Haywards Heath and over to Horsham. Berkshire has Heathrow airport. Crawley has Gatwick airport. Brighton has Shoreham airport. |
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Post by Foggy on Feb 25, 2018 21:29:24 GMT
Heathrow Airport is in Middlesex.
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Post by yellowperil on Feb 25, 2018 21:40:31 GMT
Looking at election results, I can't see any reason to believe that Labour prospects are substantially (if at all) worse in River than in Brookfield. Not just a matter of past results - there is a changing demographic in both wards with more upmarket developments in River and more commercial development in Brookfield. River is now a 3-member ward and the traditional Labour -voting bit at the northern end of the ward ( the bit formerly in Ham)will be more effectively swamped. In my opinion. |
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Post by greenchristian on Feb 25, 2018 22:44:25 GMT
Heathrow Airport is in Middlesex. You mean it's an airport that's inside a cricket team?  |
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Post by timmullen1 on Feb 25, 2018 22:49:58 GMT
Heathrow Airport is in Middlesex. You mean it's an airport that's inside a cricket team? Opening bowler, bats down the order, pretty immobile in the field. Bit like Bob Willis. 😉 |
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Post by yellowperil on Feb 26, 2018 8:30:22 GMT
Rustington is definitely a very retirement-orientated place & I'm surprised the LDs gained it. If the implication is that LibDems don't do well in retirement-oriented places I find that a surprising comment. On the whole they are doing quite well in such places - Eastbourne being the obvious example. |
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Post by middleenglander on Feb 26, 2018 11:58:34 GMT
Arun, Marine - Liberal Democrat gain from Conservative| Party | 2018 votes | 2018 share | since 2015 * | Liberal Democrat | 309 | 32.7% | from nowhere | Labour | 252 | 26.7% | +7.3% | Conservative | 242 | 25.6% | -0.7% | Independent | 141 | 14.9% | from nowhere | Elected Independent |
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* in 2015 there were 4 candidates for 2 seats - Independent & Conservative elected, UKIP and Labour not Swing not meaningful Council now 43 Conservative, 7 Liberal Democrat, 2 Independent, 1 Labour, 1 UKIP Boston, Old Leake & Wrangle - Conservative hold | Party | 2018 votes | 2018 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | since 2011 "top" | since 2011 "average" | | Conservative | 536 | 74.2% | +21.3% | +22.9% | +21.1% | +25.2% | Labour | 123 | 17.0% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | UKIP | 50 | 6.9% | -40.1% | -41.7% | -15.2% | -17.2% | Blue Revolution | 13 | 1.8% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Boston Bypass Independent |
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Swing, if meaningful, UKIP to Conservative ~31% since 2015 and 18% / 21% since 2011 Council now 16 Conservative, 6 UKIP, 4 Independent, 4 Non-Aligned Chichester, Fishbourne - Liberal Democrat hold | Party | 2018 votes | 2018 share | since 2015 | since 2011 | since 2007 | | Liberal Democrat | 459 | 54.6% | +3.4% | -4.0% | -18.4% | Conservative | 293 | 34.9% | -2.4% | -6.5% | +7.9% | Labour | 88 | 10.5% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Independent |
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Swing Conservative to Liberal Democrat ~ 3% since 2015 and 1¼% since 2011 but Liberal Democrat to Conservative ~ 13% since 2007 Council now 40 Conservative, 4 Liberal Democrat, 3 Independent, 1 Vacant Dorset, Bridport - Conservative gain from Liberal Democrat
| Party | 2018 votes | 2018 share | since 2017 "top" | since 2017 "average" | | Conservative | 1,660 | 39.6% | +2.5% | +0.0% | Liberal Democrat | 1,451 | 34.6% | -3.7% | -2.2% | Labour | 691 | 16.5% | +4.4% | +4.0% | Green | 388 | 9.3% | -3.2% | -1.8% | Total votes | 4,190 |
| 64% | 71% |
Swing Liberal Democrat to Conservative ~ 3% / 1% since 2017
Council now 33 Conservative, 10 Liberal Democrat, 2 Green, 1 Labour
Hertfordshire, Goffs Oak & Bury Green - Conservative hold
| Party | 2018 votes | 2018 share | since 2017 | | Conservative | 1,390 | 59.6% | -5.5% | Liberal Democrat | 482 | 20.7% | +14.8% | Labour | 393 | 16.8% | -0.8% | Green | 69 | 3.0% | from nowhere | UKIP |
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Swing Conservative to Liberal Democrat ~ 10% since 2017
Council now 51 Conservative, 18 Liberal Democrat, 9 Labour
Lichfield, Stowe - Conservative hold
| Party | 2018 votes | 2018 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | | Conservative | 513 | 44.8% | -9.0% | -6.2% | Labour | 299 | 26.1% | -0.9% | -2.2% | Liberal Democrat | 217 | 19.0% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Something New | 59 | 5.2% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Green | 56 | 4.9% | -14.2% | -15.7% | Total votes | 1,144 |
| 34% | 37% |
Swing Conservative to Labour ~ 4% / 2% since 2015
Council now 42 Conservative, 4 Labour, 1 Liberal Democrat
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