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Post by andrew111 on Feb 23, 2018 15:33:39 GMT
Talking about the payroll vote of the electorate, particularly in the context of a local election, particularly in the context of wards where there is minimal social renting, is just unbelievably crass and stupid. Wow!!! Did I touch a nerve or something EAL?? |
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Post by yellowperil on Feb 23, 2018 17:08:50 GMT
Both Lib Dem gains came in wards neighbouring a ward which contains a Butlins. Bodes well for a Lib Dem recovery in Skegness.. Oh we do like to be beside the seaside ( as Nigel liked to say) |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Feb 23, 2018 19:16:48 GMT
Embarrassing for the Greens to finish behind a party with no policies. |
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Post by greenchristian on Feb 23, 2018 21:04:17 GMT
Embarrassing for the Greens to finish behind a party with no policies. Well, if 44.8% people are hell-bent on voting for such a party there's not that much we can do about it.  |
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Post by Foggy on Feb 23, 2018 23:07:26 GMT
Hard to believe this was a Lib Dem seat less than 3 years ago The parliamentary constituency last voted for a Lib Dem nearly 8 years ago. The LDs don't even have a list seat in the South of Scotland region at Holyrood anymore, so such a weak result in the by-election shouldn't be all that surprising. |
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Post by maxque on Feb 23, 2018 23:41:18 GMT
Hard to believe this was a Lib Dem seat less than 3 years ago Well, like Andrew Teale said, the candidate is living 45 miles away. |
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Post by YL on Feb 24, 2018 6:52:06 GMT
It would appear from yesterday that Bognor is on the western extremity of the "red tide" currently lapping the south coast, whilst Chichester remains resolutely untouched Well, that makes sense if it is focussed on the urban areas along the coast. However, the result last June in Bognor Regis & Littlehampton wasn't particularly striking, unlike the Worthing seats, so while it would be entertaining I think we're still a long way from the Tories quoting a possibly apocryphal saying of George V on a general election night. |
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Post by finsobruce on Feb 24, 2018 7:31:57 GMT
It would appear from yesterday that Bognor is on the western extremity of the "red tide" currently lapping the south coast, whilst Chichester remains resolutely untouched Well, that makes sense if it is focussed on the urban areas along the coast. However, the result last June in Bognor Regis & Littlehampton wasn't particularly striking, unlike the Worthing seats, so while it would be entertaining I think we're still a long way from the Tories quoting a possibly apocryphal saying of George V on a general election night. how much difference did the changes in 2010 make? the majority before that had been as low as 5,643 (2001) - and that over Labour. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 7:40:31 GMT
It would appear from yesterday that Bognor is on the western extremity of the "red tide" currently lapping the south coast, whilst Chichester remains resolutely untouched Well, that makes sense if it is focussed on the urban areas along the coast. However, the result last June in Bognor Regis & Littlehampton wasn't particularly striking, unlike the Worthing seats, so while it would be entertaining I think we're still a long way from the Tories quoting a possibly apocryphal saying of George V on a general election night. To be honest it ends at Worthing East to some extent. We did get 55% and 30,000 votes in Worthing West. That isn’t a bad Tory performance, it’s more that the ABT vote coalesced about Labour. It’s no closer to voting Labour than say Durham North West is to voting Tory. |
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Post by The Bishop on Feb 24, 2018 11:08:15 GMT
Hence the use of "western extremity", the effect is less strong than in the immediate environs of Brighton but it is perhaps still there.
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Post by yellowperil on Feb 24, 2018 13:41:36 GMT
Hence the use of "western extremity", the effect is less strong than in the immediate environs of Brighton but it is perhaps still there. It is a rather extreme view of the "red tide" when Labour put on 7.3% and came second while Lib Dems put on 32.7 % and actually won the seat from a standing start. More like a red trickle. I would say the red tide may be engulfing Worthing but has not really got past Littlehampton where the heart of the town( River and Beach especially) is still firmly Lib Dem. I see Littlehampton (where a lot of my family live) as the breakwater. And this was of course the second "unexpected" Lib Dem by-election gain in Arun within a year , just as we saw a second "unexpected" Lib Dem gain in West Somerset. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 13:50:38 GMT
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Post by finsobruce on Feb 24, 2018 14:00:04 GMT
Hence the use of "western extremity", the effect is less strong than in the immediate environs of Brighton but it is perhaps still there. It is a rather extreme view of the "red tide" when Labour put on 7.3% and came second while Lib Dems put on 32.7 % and actually won the seat from a standing start. More like a red trickle. I would say the red tide may be engulfing Worthing but has not really got past Littlehampton where the heart of the town( River and Beach especially) is still firmly Lib Dem. I see Littlehampton (where a lot of my family live) as the breakwater. And this was of course the second "unexpected" Lib Dem by-election gain in Arun within a year , just as we saw a second "unexpected " Lib Dem gain in West Somerset. A standing start? Well, sort of. No Lib Dem candidate in 2015 sure, but finishing in front of Labour in every previous contest and winning it in 2003. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Feb 24, 2018 14:01:40 GMT
It is a rather extreme view of the "red tide" when Labour put on 7.3% and came second while Lib Dems put on 32.7 % and actually won the seat from a standing start. More like a red trickle. I would say the red tide may be engulfing Worthing but has not really got past Littlehampton where the heart of the town( River and Beach especially) is still firmly Lib Dem. I see Littlehampton (where a lot of my family live) as the breakwater. And this was of course the second "unexpected" Lib Dem by-election gain in Arun within a year , just as we saw a second "unexpected " Lib Dem gain in West Somerset. A standing start? Well, sort of. No Lib Dem candidate in 2015 sure, but finishing in front of Labour in every previous contest and winning it in 2003. On which point is there any reason anyone knows of why the Lib Dems, given their previous competitiveness in this Ward, didn’t stand at least one candidate in 2015 to try and capitalise on usual GE boosted turnout? |
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Post by yellowperil on Feb 24, 2018 15:29:38 GMT
It is a rather extreme view of the "red tide" when Labour put on 7.3% and came second while Lib Dems put on 32.7 % and actually won the seat from a standing start. More like a red trickle. I would say the red tide may be engulfing Worthing but has not really got past Littlehampton where the heart of the town( River and Beach especially) is still firmly Lib Dem. I see Littlehampton (where a lot of my family live) as the breakwater. And this was of course the second "unexpected" Lib Dem by-election gain in Arun within a year , just as we saw a second "unexpected " Lib Dem gain in West Somerset. A standing start? Well, sort of. No Lib Dem candidate in 2015 sure, but finishing in front of Labour in every previous contest and winning it in 2003. yes ,something went wrong with the Lib Dems between 2003 and 2015 .Maybe you missed it. Just for now I would settle for the Lib Dems being back where they were in 2003. |
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Post by finsobruce on Feb 24, 2018 15:59:16 GMT
A standing start? Well, sort of. No Lib Dem candidate in 2015 sure, but finishing in front of Labour in every previous contest and winning it in 2003. yes ,something went wrong with the Lib Dems between 2003 and 2015 .Maybe you missed it. Just for now I would settle for the Lib Dems being back where they were in 2003. I didn't miss it. You just over-egg the pudding sometimes.  |
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Post by Foggy on Feb 24, 2018 20:45:28 GMT
Well, that makes sense if it is focussed on the urban areas along the coast. However, the result last June in Bognor Regis & Littlehampton wasn't particularly striking, unlike the Worthing seats, so while it would be entertaining I think we're still a long way from the Tories quoting a possibly apocryphal saying of George V on a general election night. how much difference did the changes in 2010 make? the majority before that had been as low as 5,643 ( 2001) - and that over Labour. Isn't it a bit misleading to refer to majorities purely in raw vote terms from an election that had a notoriously low turnout? That figure of 5,643 still represented a lead of 14.5%, which is enough to call it safe if that was the Tories' low ebb in the seat and they've held it easily ever since. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 10:05:01 GMT
Littlehampton is a very grim little town. I can’t see the soy latte overspill from Brighton colonising that far west.
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Post by finsobruce on Feb 25, 2018 11:13:45 GMT
Littlehampton is a very grim little town. I can’t see the soy latte overspill from Brighton colonising that far west. For some reason my primary school used to take us there on trips (this is the very early 70s). The reason would be on grounds (coffee pun) of cost i guess. |
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Post by The Bishop on Feb 25, 2018 11:19:16 GMT
Littlehampton is a very grim little town. I can’t see the soy latte overspill from Brighton colonising that far west. Labour has been quite strong there in the past, though - and could be again. Gains there next year are certainly not out of the question I would have thought. |
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