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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 15, 2018 20:38:35 GMT
Called for 8th April.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 23, 2018 18:55:17 GMT
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jan 23, 2018 20:48:20 GMT
According to austrian banks - who have been praying now and again for a ComeBack of the Commies -, this was planned by the government several years ago. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 14:13:46 GMT
Fidesz has lost the mayoralty of Hodmezovasarhely in a shock vote. The sole candidate for the opposition who stood as an Independent got 57.5% whereas Fidesz got 41.5%. Could this be a sign of trouble for Fidesz in the General election? www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43195858 |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 14:25:43 GMT
Fidesz has lost the mayoralty of Hodmezovasarhely in a shock vote. The sole candidate for the opposition who stood as an Independent got 57.5% whereas Fidesz got 41.5%. Could this be a sign of trouble for Fidesz in the General election? www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43195858Hódmezővásárhely isn't far from Szeged. It has a population of less than 50,000, so there could well be local factors at work. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Feb 26, 2018 15:07:01 GMT
Could this be a sign of trouble for Fidesz in the General election? I doubt it - there is no credible opposition at present. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 15:49:44 GMT
In 2010 everybody got very excited when Tamás Meggyes, the Fidesz mayor of the right-wing city of Esztergom, lost to an independent. However, it merely reflected the fact that he had alienated almost everybody through his incompetence and wildly erratic behaviour. His opponent, Éva Tétényi, had the remarkable distinction of being supported by all other parties from Jobbik to the MSZP. In 2014, with Tamás Meggyes out of the way, she lost to Fidesz and the natural order was restored.
The Esztergom hiccup did nothing to threaten Fidesz dominance nationally and heralded no swing toward the opposition.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Feb 26, 2018 16:43:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 16:55:19 GMT
Eva Balogh's hatred of Viktor Orbán verges on the pathological but, given the paucity of English-language coverage of Hungarian politics, it is worth following. |
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Post by Merseymike on Feb 26, 2018 17:34:42 GMT
Eva Balogh's hatred of Viktor Orbán verges on the pathological but, given the paucity of English-language coverage of Hungarian politics, it is worth following. Isn't that an entirely rational position, though? Orban is a thoroughly reprehensible character. |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Feb 26, 2018 17:49:05 GMT
In 2010 everybody got very excited when Tamás Meggyes, the Fidesz mayor of the right-wing city of Esztergom, lost to an independent. However, it merely reflected the fact that he had alienated almost everybody through his incompetence and wildly erratic behaviour. His opponent, Éva Tétényi, had the remarkable distinction of being supported by all other parties from Jobbik to the MSZP. In 2014, with Tamás Meggyes out of the way, she lost to Fidesz and the natural order was restored. The Esztergom hiccup did nothing to threaten Fidesz dominance nationally and heralded no swing toward the opposition. They cherry-picked a good candidate? |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Feb 26, 2018 19:51:09 GMT
Eva Balogh's hatred of Viktor Orbán verges on the pathological but, given the paucity of English-language coverage of Hungarian politics, it is worth following. Isn't that an entirely rational position, though? Orban is a thoroughly reprehensible character. He is a repellent bloke, but unfortunately she isn't shy about touting other disreputable types like Gyurcsany, and doesn't really seem to consider why Fidesz is in the position it is these days. Sometimes she paints a picture of Hungary as a police state in a way that isn't matched by actually going there! But as @goodoldcause points out, still worth reading. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Feb 26, 2018 19:52:33 GMT
In 2010 everybody got very excited when Tamás Meggyes, the Fidesz mayor of the right-wing city of Esztergom, lost to an independent. However, it merely reflected the fact that he had alienated almost everybody through his incompetence and wildly erratic behaviour. His opponent, Éva Tétényi, had the remarkable distinction of being supported by all other parties from Jobbik to the MSZP. In 2014, with Tamás Meggyes out of the way, she lost to Fidesz and the natural order was restored. The Esztergom hiccup did nothing to threaten Fidesz dominance nationally and heralded no swing toward the opposition. They cherry-picked a good candidate? And Vote UK's obscure pun of the year award goes to... |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Feb 26, 2018 20:08:11 GMT
Eva Balogh's hatred of Viktor Orbán verges on the pathological but, given the paucity of English-language coverage of Hungarian politics, it is worth following. Isn't that an entirely rational position, though? Orban is a thoroughly reprehensible character. I'm not sure how pathological hatred can be rational |
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Post by Adrian on Feb 27, 2018 0:05:45 GMT
Hód is an odd place, so you can't read much into this result. What you can read into it is that if the Left/Centre opposition parties fielded a single candidate in each constituency they might stand a chance. As has been pointed out before, Hungary's perverted form of PR makes it difficult for a fragmented Left/Centre to get candidates elected.
Anecdote alert: my mother-in-law, who's been an ardent Fidesznik for the past decade, has finally seen the light and sworn she'll never vote for Orbán again. Apparently the straw that broke the camel's back is his takeover of regional media, such that her local paper now looks and reads just like Magyar Hírlap.
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Post by tamar on Feb 27, 2018 10:57:57 GMT
Eva Balogh's hatred of Viktor Orbán verges on the pathological but, given the paucity of English-language coverage of Hungarian politics, it is worth following. Isn't that an entirely rational position, though? Orban is a thoroughly reprehensible character. Orbán is deeply reprehensible, but as with many CEE liberals it can cloud her rational thinking and blind her to potential ways of actually beating him because she can no longer perceive the reality of the situation. |
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Post by The Bishop on Feb 27, 2018 11:15:47 GMT
it can cloud her rational thinking and blind her to potential ways of actually beating him because she can no longer perceive the reality of the situation A very familiar phenomenon. |
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Post by Merseymike on Feb 27, 2018 11:32:52 GMT
It's very clear that the Hungarian opposition isn't capable of defeating him. I would have thought given the stuff he's coming out with that they really ought to sink their differences.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 1, 2018 8:32:10 GMT
Reports emerging of a Left-Jobbik coordination during the by-election. And further suggestions of the same parties repeating the trick. Intriguing if true.
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 1, 2018 12:09:25 GMT
Reports emerging of a Left-Jobbik coordination during the by-election. And further suggestions of the same parties repeating the trick. Intriguing if true. I suppose they would share a tactical wish to dismantle the effective Putinesque one party state being built by Orban |
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