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Post by maxque on May 3, 2024 16:23:25 GMT
www.bolton.gov.uk/news/article/1727/local-election-results-2024Third: Lab 9 (-1), Con 3 (-2), LD 2, FKF 2 (+2), HBF 2, Grn 1 (+1), Ind 1 (+1), ON 0 (-1) Council: Lab 26 (-2), Con 15 (-1), LD 6, HFI 6, FKF 5 (+2), Grn 1 (+1), Ind 1 Conservative gain from Labour in: Astley Bridge (by 1 vote!) Labour gain from Conservative in: Bradshaw (by 48 votes) Hulton (by 389 votes over Con, by 437 votes over Ind incumbent elected as Con)
Farnworth and Kearsley First gain from Labour in: Farnworth South (by 223 votes)
Farnworth and Kearsley First gain from One Kearsley in: Kearsley (by 372 votes over Labour defector)
Green gain over Labour in: Halliwell (by 250 votes)
Independent gain over Labour in: Rumworth (by 746 votes)
Liberal Democrat gain over Conservative in: Westhoughton N and Hunger Hill (by 295 votes, confirms by-election gain)
Labour gain over Liberal Democrat in: Westhouhgton S (by 115 votes)
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Breighmey (Lab hold by 163 votes over Con)
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Post by maxque on May 3, 2024 15:42:51 GMT
www.basingstoke.gov.uk/election-results-2024Third: Con 4 (-8), LD 4 (+2), Lab 3 (+1), BDI 3 (+2), Ind 1 (+1), Grn 1 (+1), WEP 1 (+1) Council: Con 16 (-7), Lab 11 (+1), LD 11 (+2), BDI 10 (+2), Ind 3, Grn 2 (+1), WEP 1 (+1) Independent gain on Conservative in: Basing and Upton Gray (by 783 votes) Basingstoke and Deane Independent gain over Conservative in: Bramley (by 239 votes) Oakley and the Candovers (by 265 votes) Green gain over Conservative in: Chineham (by 46 votes) Women Equality Party gain over Con in: Hatch Warren and Beggarwood (by 962 votes) Liberal Democrat gain over Conservative in: Tadley and Pamber (by 417 votes) Tadley N, Kingsclere and Baughurst (by 360 votes) Labour gain over Consevrative in: Winklebury and Manydown (by 26 votes) Close hold: Brookvale and Kings Furlong (Con hold over Lab by 51 votes)
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Post by maxque on May 3, 2024 15:19:28 GMT
That is very close to obvious libel. Speaking from personal experience? Probably pure pork barrel as Mitterand was a pliable fixer and consummate crook. Technically, I think that under English law, you can't libel the dead.
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Post by maxque on May 3, 2024 15:09:00 GMT
Ashfield Labour - 7,130 Conservative - 5,687 Indy - 3,570 Reform UK - 3,532 Green - 1,482 LDm - 579 I don't think Lee Anderson is happy at this result.
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Post by maxque on May 3, 2024 15:06:45 GMT
www.adur-worthing.gov.uk/elections-and-voting/election-results/2024/#adcLabour gain from Conservative in: Buckingham (by 257 votes) Churchill (by 17 votes) Cokeham (by 48 votes) Eastbrook (by 258 votes) Hillside (by 172 votes) Peverel (by 52 votes) Widewater x2 (by 141/297 votes) Third: Lab 11 (+7), Con 1 (-7), Grn 1, Ind 1 Counci: Lab 17 (+8), Con 8 (-8), Grn 2, Ind 2
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Post by maxque on May 3, 2024 14:49:43 GMT
Somehow Jonathan Evison held this CONS: 39.7% (-5.9) LAB: 36.4% (-3.0) LD: 23.9% (+8.8) I think Labour has serious problems in Kingston at the moment.
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Post by maxque on May 3, 2024 14:35:34 GMT
Why has Houchen been so successful in brushing off the corruption allegations here? Electors tend to favour results over repute, see Donald Trump.
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Post by maxque on May 3, 2024 14:32:17 GMT
Starmer is a very smart man. At this point, I just don't see any other reason why he would ignore the revolt of a part of the base and of a large minority of the PLP on a position that's against Labour values, to the right of Blair's foreign policy and that is unlikely to net any votes for Labour (as his position is still more moderate than the Conservatives) What you may have failed to consider is that almost nothing you've said is true. The Labour position is to call for a ceasefire, for the return of hostages and for aid to Gaza to be increased. You may believe that that goes against Labour's values, but nobody else is going to believe that. The argument that his position is more moderate than the Conservative one falls apart on its first interaction with reality - the Conservative position is pretty similar, but even quieter and much less willing to make critical noises about the Israeli government. Starmer has undoubtedly made some mistakes in how he's dealt with the issue - his initial response when asked about cutting off electricity most notably. But he has not taken a pro-war position, and even if he had your insinuation of dual loyalty would still be antisemitic. I'm not accusing anyone of double loyalty neither I am anti-semitic. Do we accuse people taking part in the Notting Hill festival (obviously proud of their heritage) of dual loyalty? On the cease-fire, I see the people he sacked from the Shadow Cabinet for supporting a cease-fire are not back yet. EDIT: In any case, lived experience and events in one's life obviously colours one's political views (on both sides of the divide on that issue) and I would assume that implies to Jewish and Mulism people too (well, I think we got an answer from the ballot box for the later and one from the former in the 2018/2019 elections). There was no intend to offend, imply dual loyalty or imply Starmer's wife is forcing him to take specific political positions.
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Post by maxque on May 3, 2024 14:26:48 GMT
Dearne South - Lab hold North East - Lab hold Old Town - Lab hold Penistone East - Lab gain from Con Penistone West - LD hold Royston - Lab hold Stairfoot - Lab hold Worsborough - Lab hold So I make the overall council now: 47 Lab, 11 (+1) LD, 3 Ind, 1 (-1) Con The LD gain in Kingstone is by 200 votes. The Labour gain in Penistone East is by 156 votes. Close hold: Rockingham (Lab hold by 153 votes over Ind)
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Post by maxque on May 3, 2024 14:06:32 GMT
I do not think "I am approximately as racist as somebody who hates Muslims" is a particularly strong argument. Starmer is a very smart man. At this point, I just don't see any other reason why he would ignore the revolt of a part of the base and of a large minority of the PLP on a position that's against Labour values, to the right of Blair's foreign policy and that is unlikely to net any votes for Labour (as his position is still more moderate than the Conservatives)
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Post by maxque on May 3, 2024 13:56:03 GMT
That’s a pretty disgusting comment which is akin to antisemitic conspiracy theory. How is it more racist than implying that all Mulism hate Jewish people? I don't think it's a conspiracy theory to think a Jewish person likes Israel, might see it as an insurance policy should the grim situation of WW2 returns and most likely knows/have family living there. It is foolish to think politicians don't take aboard their personal situations when taking positions. God knows how the right-wing rags would be all over it if his wife was Arabic instead. There is a term for it in parlimentary terms and it's called "declaring an interest". He should declare an interest and leave all policy related to it to the Shadow Secretary (he can even replace Lammy if he prefers). In any case, that's a serious electoral detriment and an unwelcome and unneeded distraction for the party.
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Post by maxque on May 3, 2024 13:49:11 GMT
Ind gain from Lab: Bastwell & Daisyfield, Billinge & Beardwood, Blackburn Central, Little Harwood & Whitebirk, Roe Lee, Shear Brow & Corporation Park, Wensley Fold Ind gain from Con: Audley & Queen's Park
Lab hold: Blackburn South East, Darwen East, Mill Hill & Moorgate Lab gain from Con: Ewood
Con hold: Livesey with Pleasington
Still counting: Blackburn South & Lower Darwen, Darwen South, Darwen West, West Pennine
Ind gain from Lab: Bastwell & Daisyfield (by 337 votes), Billinge & Beardwood (by 1003 votes), Blackburn Central (by 203 votes), Little Harwood & Whitebirk (by 54 votes over another Ind; 329 votes over Lab), Roe Lee (by 276 votes), Shear Brow & Corporation Park (by 1217 votes), Wensley Fold (by 67 votes) Ind gain from Con: Audley & Queen's Park (by 424 votes votes over Lab, Con distant 4th) Lab hold: Blackburn South East, Darwen East, Darwen West, Mill Hill & Moorgate Lab gain from Con: Blackburn South & Lower Darwen (by 113 votes), Darwen South (by 169 votes, confirms by-election gain), Ewood (by 260 votes) Con hold: Livesey with Pleasington, West Pennine (by 166 votes) Third: Ind 8 (+8), Lab 7 (-4), Con 2 (-4) Council: Lab 29 (-8), Ind 13 (+10), Con 9 (-2)
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Post by maxque on May 3, 2024 13:16:05 GMT
What dishonesty. If it's anyone's fault, it's Starmer's one for putting his conjugal interests in front of the party and country.
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Post by maxque on May 3, 2024 3:26:51 GMT
Labour 9 This year 24 Total, Gain of 8 Independents 2 This year 6 Total, Loss of 2 Tories 1 This year 6 Total, Loss of 6 Labour gain from Conservative in: Burn Valley (by 580 votes) De Bruce (by 428 votes) Hart (by 112 votes) Headland and Harbour (by 514 votes) Manor House (by 411 votes over Reform, by 465 votes over Conservative) Rossmere (by 374 votes) Labour gain over Independent in: Foggy Furze (by 424 votes, confirms by-election gain) Throston (by 668 over Conservative, no defending Independent) Other close ward: Fens and Greatham (Ind hold by 101 votes over Lab)
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Post by maxque on May 3, 2024 0:31:56 GMT
Also, Labour was 163 votes away in Cheshunt North.
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Post by maxque on Apr 30, 2024 22:44:48 GMT
And the ones where nobody answers the front door because anybody who knows them would have gone round the back instead. Or the front door is locked, bolted and nailed shut with a cupboard against it because it was last used in 1954. Extremely common where I live. The front door leads to the middle of the living room (often behind the TV stand), everyone uses the side door (I've also seen front doors being 1 foot off the ground, floating into a wall with no surface until the ground on the outside side).
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Post by maxque on Apr 30, 2024 22:34:28 GMT
They have started to credit parlcons, but now, it's Andrew Teale that they don't credit.
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Post by maxque on Apr 30, 2024 22:26:59 GMT
This is why Houchen will win. Two days before polling day a joint Mayor/PCC leaflet has just dropped on the mat. Chris McEwan is promoting two policies to get people to vote for him 1. Invest in CCTV to make our streets safe again. 2. Bring back free parking to breathe life into struggling town centres. What stunning vision, I'm sure the polling booths will be inundated with voters supporting him. It's not just that Houchen is a man that gets things done in the eyes of the population of the Tees Valley, this pathetic offer from Labour to the public, from a lifetime public sector employee speaks volumes about the parochial views of some politicians. He is even more useless than Jacobs who stood for Labour last time. Should this message bear an imprint?
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Post by maxque on Apr 30, 2024 21:54:12 GMT
So the Workers Party are going to de facto endorse a hardline pro-independence party despite offically being strongly pro-Union? You can easily make the argument that independence is a Scottish issue and won't be solved in Westminster (that's what being used in Canadian federal elections in case of "sovereignists" running for "federalist" parties).
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Post by maxque on Apr 30, 2024 21:33:55 GMT
Why are police not armed, if they shot him that young lad would still be here And, as we see in USA, tens of young lads would be dead, killed by trigger-happy policemen.
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