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Post by john07 on Apr 16, 2024 17:17:30 GMT
I think that the only way that Street can win is to effectively distance himself from the national Conservative leadership. He has done a pretty decent job of edging towards that so far. But I am not sure that will be enough in the current climate.
Several of the MDCs in this area have certainly moved towards the Conservatives especially Walsall and Dudley as compared to when I lived in the West Midlands in the late 1970s.
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Post by john07 on Apr 16, 2024 16:58:53 GMT
I know you don't use them - that's why Murray is further up the crank scale than you are. But, he does. Do you agree with what he says? You have implied that he's just anti-Zionist, but surely a formulation such as this says a great deal more than that. As I have said I don't think about the "crank scale". It's unlikely any party would support the Workers Party. Similarly I don't agree such about the 40% cabinet office. I don't agree about Starmer's views. I'm sure some left wing MP's disagree. Generally I supported Corbyn's views. Yet you initially supported Andy Burnham as party leader on here before switching to Corbyn when he started to build up support.
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Post by john07 on Apr 15, 2024 22:31:46 GMT
Liz Truss comparing herself to Brian Clough is utterly absurd, for the simple reason that prior to his 44-day stint at Leeds, Clough had already been incredibly successful by winning the League title at Derby County. What had Truss achieved of a similar magnitude prior to her 44-day stint in No. 10?? I can’t imagine what the staunch left-winger, Brian Clough, would have said if he was compared to a right-wing Pop-Con nut job.
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Post by john07 on Apr 14, 2024 23:30:27 GMT
I voted for Ed Miliband when he stood and was elected.
I voted for Yvette Cooper against Corbyn.
I then voted for Owen Smith although I now can’t recall who he was or what he stood for.
I certainly did vote for Keir Starmer.
As for Deputy Leaders I am struggling to recall who I voted for.
I have vague recollections of voting for Caroline Flint and later for Angela Rayner.
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Post by john07 on Apr 14, 2024 23:00:54 GMT
It looks like a proper effort given one of their candidates gives an address in Durham (I suppose Sunderland is in Durham). It was, anyway, and in pre-1983 general election studies both Sunderland constituencies were listed under County Durham. Also Durham City and the surrounding area was noted as an area for Sunderland support as opposed to Newcastle United. It is on Wearside after all! It’s rather different now due to outmigration to County Durham from Newcastle to areas such as Chester-le-Street. Sorry hijack the Black Country thread.
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Post by john07 on Apr 14, 2024 22:49:00 GMT
He's in the Lords isn't he So was Alec Douglas Home and Tony Benn?
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Post by john07 on Apr 14, 2024 19:34:35 GMT
Seems he was deselected due to a failure to declare he was one of the founder of the Christian People Alliance. He claims he was deselected due to being an active Christian. Bring back Graham Tope.
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Post by john07 on Apr 14, 2024 18:34:50 GMT
Michael Foot advised voters to vote for his brother Dingle, the liberal candidate in a neighbouring constituency. For the Tory party to suspend a member for supporting her husband is a shameful rejection of family values and the institution of marriage. There was an incident a few years back when a Conservative councillor was suspended (or possibly expelled) for signing her UKIP husband's nomination papers for a council election. In Stockport for the inaugral 1973 Metropolitan District elections, Labour candidate Maureen Marston was opposed by her husband who stood for the Communists in Offerton-Vernon Ward. He took 129 votes and helped the Liberals to take two of the three seats and ensure that Maureen was not elected. Maurice Mendleson did take one seat for Labour. He was a Jewish emigree who had fought in the Spanish Civil War. He was a market trader and my mother always bought her handbags from him. He had earlier acquired some attention when his daughter Anna was arrested and jailed as a member of the Angry Brigade.
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Post by john07 on Apr 12, 2024 18:50:57 GMT
Neville Chamberlain's seat 1918 - 1929! And much later Brian Walden’s seat.
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Post by john07 on Apr 12, 2024 18:35:51 GMT
Aah - dwi ddim yn deall jocs saesneg! on the contrary, I never fail to season my egg My hovercraft is full of eels.
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Post by john07 on Apr 12, 2024 3:04:36 GMT
So she hasn't won an election since 1992. Mind you, that's better than my record I haven't won an election since 1981. Mind you I haven't lost one since 1979!
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Post by john07 on Apr 12, 2024 1:47:38 GMT
He has no chance of a Champions League place but could sneak Europa Conference League if the other candidates all bottle it. More like the Vauxhall Conference?
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Post by john07 on Apr 12, 2024 1:04:29 GMT
He looks like a cross between Ned Kelly and the Terminator!
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Post by john07 on Apr 12, 2024 0:11:15 GMT
What is the general platform of the Yorkshire Party?
Centre-left regionalists or something else?
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Post by john07 on Apr 11, 2024 23:58:05 GMT
That seems like a terrible Conservative showing. Is this symptomatic of the meltdown of the Conservative Party grass roots?
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Post by john07 on Apr 11, 2024 21:12:23 GMT
was he dead when selected or not? I'm not totally clear How would anone tell?
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Post by john07 on Apr 11, 2024 21:01:00 GMT
Dalry in Edinburgh is mostly working-class Protestant too isn't it? It’s the slightly posher counterpart to Gorgie. Tenemented area throughout near to Haymarket Station. Definitely Hearts’ territory. I don’t know much of Dalry in Ayrshire.
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Post by john07 on Apr 11, 2024 18:26:18 GMT
Oh good god, I reached my limit for badly written drivel and I still haven't seen anything resembling an actual policy there... Very Trumpian.
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Post by john07 on Apr 11, 2024 14:41:58 GMT
This sounds rather like a Monty Python dead parrot sketch.
‘Bereft of life.,…..’
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Post by john07 on Apr 10, 2024 17:50:50 GMT
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