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Post by john07 on May 17, 2024 17:57:02 GMT
For example in 2015 the Lib Dems only won in 3 of 13 wards in Three Rivers but retained a majority - but we need to do better than that. Kirklees 1975 Labour won 3 wards (one unopposed) and held onto the council by the mayor's casting vote. There must be better examples. Pre-1974 parties held control thanks to the aldermen after suffering oblivion in a cycle or two. I can recall Labour regaining control of Stoke-on-Trent in the late 1960s only to lose it back again after the Aldermanic elections .
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Post by john07 on May 17, 2024 14:08:29 GMT
"Were you up for Penny?" "Were you up when the Penny dropped?" That would be a Penny Dreadful.
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Post by john07 on May 17, 2024 1:44:18 GMT
Wasn’t his fault, he was Major’s human shield regarding the ERM, hence why he didn’t sack him till May 93 He had the bad luck of being Major's shield yes, but Lamont was also his own worst enemy, he could make a situation worse by just opening his mouth. The public perception of him by 1997, was Neil Hamilton lite, as Lamont definitely had a negative personal vote, more so than Portillo, but he wasn't poison like Hamilton. Lamont was an arsehole who couldn’t even pronounce his own name. His name is Lamont not LAA-mont. I knew someone from the Shetlands who was familiar with his family.
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Post by john07 on May 16, 2024 23:22:18 GMT
I suppose if we had a Rochdale like result where labour lost like 80% or it's vote 3rd is possible. Though that be collapsing to 3rd rather than being beaten to 2nd Labour lost 100% of the vote in Rochdale on account of not having an endorsed candidate
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Post by john07 on May 15, 2024 22:00:51 GMT
Any more jokes like that and you will meet your Waterloo! Hmm, a backward hop to Charing Cross allows me to put you in knip there. Mornington Crescent!
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Post by john07 on May 15, 2024 20:10:38 GMT
I don't think Phil Munday had planned becoming Council Leader when first elected in 2022. I'm sorry, I Havant a clue. Any more jokes like that and you will meet your Waterloo!
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Post by john07 on May 13, 2024 0:02:06 GMT
Not to be rude, but does the MP here have an eye problem or is it the mascara? How much longer are you going to be allowed the post inane comments and dredging up old threads. If you have anything sensible to post, do so. But try to refrain from putting up pre-pubescent garbage.
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Post by john07 on May 12, 2024 23:47:31 GMT
It's a long time now since the two Heatons were Tory strongholds, and the change over time has been clearly in one direction for them. However, I'm still amazed to see those two wards now feature in the top ten highest Labour votes and the top ten Labour over Conservative margin. This also highlights the dismal performance for the Conservatives across the rest of Stockport in the mayoral vote - the Lib Dems coming second in a large number of the wards, and the Bramhalls nowhere to be seen in the other more Tory-inclined lists. It's little surprise Reform were second in the central Stockport wards, but presumably just the best of fairly low vote shares for them, the Tories and the Lib Dems. Good old demographic change. Moor and Mersey have been Didsbury overspill for a fair while now. There's no base for the Tories to rebuild from, and the old community links that sustained them have vanished as house prices rise and force people out (which is what caused people from Didsbury to end up in the Heatons!) See also the Urmston wards. The shift on the Heatons has been a very long time coming, no doubt largely to do with demographic trends. In the 1970s and 1980s both wards were solid Tory. Prior to that, on Stockport CB, there were four Heaton wards: Norris, Mersey, Moor, and Chapel. Only Heaton Mersey was a marginal. I stood in Heaton Moor/Heaton Chapel in 1976 and was pleased to get 1,221 votes but still lost by over 2,000. By the 1990s to 2000s, the two wards had moved into the marginal column, with South Heatons more towards Labour than North Heatons. Since then, the demographic trends have continued and from around 2010 onwards, the wards moved to safe Labour. In 1975, the Conservatives took 17 out of 20 wards in Stockport along with 2 for Labour and 1 for the Heald Green Ratepayers. By 2023, they had no councillors.
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Post by john07 on May 12, 2024 9:48:15 GMT
What was so special about North Yorkshire that in order to gain any devolution they were required to consolidate all the councils bar York into a huge unitary council, whereas here and next door in Cambridgeshire they're still happy to have the two tier system? York next door to Cambridgeshire?
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Post by john07 on May 11, 2024 17:18:45 GMT
The ones with most ambition and drive left the industry * * Because it was in decline.
It’s an interesting theory but how does this explain for pit villages that keep voting solidly Labour even though the mine closed 50 years ago and depopulation has followed. Except that most haven’t kept voting Labour. The former miners are few in numbers in former pit towns and the character of most has changed reverting back to being more traditional agricultural and rural areas. In many cases they are now voting conservative. That is demographic change at work. Labour may win back some of the seats lost at the next general electoral but I suspect that it will be temporary. It is similar to the rural seats in Norfolk that Labour lost in the 1960s against the political trend. The farmworkers vote went through mechanisation in much the same way as the pitman’s vote went more recently.
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Post by john07 on May 11, 2024 13:31:05 GMT
Sham 69 were followed by a large group of noisy and mostly very racist skinheads. Jimmy Pursey felt intimidated by them. He pleaded to get the band onto the lineup for the Rock against Racism free concert in Victoria Park, London in 1978. He was not invited as there were fears that it would attract his NF supporting skinhead followers to the event.
In the end, the Clash who ended the concert invited Pursey up to jam along with White Riot.
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Post by john07 on May 11, 2024 0:15:04 GMT
Has it been noted anywhere that this seat bears a resemblance to some sort of small dog, perhaps a Jack Russell? I used to work with someone called Vic Russell. One of my colleagues kept calling him Jack.
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Post by john07 on May 8, 2024 23:37:40 GMT
I found this map of the river basin of the river Chess. I wanted to find a map of all three river basins together; it’s no use looking on Google Maps because those maps are cluttered up with human settlements, and the rivers are not clearly visible or clearly labelled at the zoomed-out stage that seems to show only the Chess catchment in Bucks. Checkmate?
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Post by john07 on May 8, 2024 16:58:09 GMT
If he wants a seat, then he will win easily. The right wing hate him. Shirley not?
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Post by john07 on May 8, 2024 13:55:07 GMT
Fair to say he is in a spin with his politics!! And he fell for the ‘wrong un’.
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Post by john07 on May 7, 2024 23:07:41 GMT
What a pleasant well mannered individual you are. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth? This cocksure little know-nothing is entirely wrong in his use of the precise term 'Watershed'. It is only the dividing line between two or more river basin systems, at the highest point. The American common and ill-educated way of using it instead of river basin is much to be deplored, but does help to identify pig-ignorant little squirts for us! In Down With Skool, Nigel Molesworth when asked what a 'Watershed' was replied that a toolshed was where you keep tools, a woodshed is where you keep wood. Don't waste my time!
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Post by john07 on May 7, 2024 10:46:25 GMT
I am sure that it is the key talking point in every pub in the District. Every pub, no...but I think edgbaston sums up - four Independents in Dewsbury and Batley, and two Huddersfield wards - Palestine is real. I am sure it will have a major impact on the foreign policy of Kirklees Council.
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Post by john07 on May 7, 2024 1:13:54 GMT
Greens take Crossland Moor & Netherton and come very close to taking Greenhead. Independents beat Labour in 4/5.5 wards that make up the new Dewsbury and Batley constituency (as well as Heckmondwike) which is seriously worrying people. Both sets of results linked to the Gaza issue. Of course the Palestine issue is real. I am sure that it is the key talking point in every pub in the District.
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Post by john07 on May 7, 2024 1:11:12 GMT
The only Met with no posts since the election I suspect that there might be a reason for that?
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Post by john07 on May 6, 2024 23:25:14 GMT
The Greens didn't do well in May 2024 (Holbrook ward) - why? One of the biggest factors was people turning out just for the mayoral, and then voting Labour for both contests. Are you suggesting that the West Midlands Metro Mayor contest was a bigger deal than Coventry City Council? It would never have been seen like that in my time in Coventry. The, then equivalent, West Midlands County Council was always seen as an irrelevance and even as an impediment. In may time on the Council, and in particular, my year as deputy chair of Transportation and Highways, I had more aggravation from the Labour-controlled West Midlands County than from the Tory Government.
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