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Post by The Bishop on Jun 30, 2018 9:01:52 GMT
Amongst the press clippings there's a Calderdale by-election that I had missed. 25th June 1981 Hipperholme & Lightcliffe - Bottomley CON 1094 Howarth LAB 920 Binns LIB 746. That is close by recent standards (if you leave out Independents, anyway) |
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Post by hullenedge on Jun 30, 2018 10:26:21 GMT
Amongst the press clippings there's a Calderdale by-election that I had missed. 25th June 1981 Hipperholme & Lightcliffe - Bottomley CON 1094 Howarth LAB 920 Binns LIB 746. That is close by recent standards (if you leave out Independents, anyway) Labour may have won that by-election if the Libs hadn't stood or fielded a weak candidate. There was much local concern about the Philips factory. Rumours of closure etc. (It did close in 1985 but re-opened as Crosslee the following year). There used to be a decent Labour vote in the Lightcliffe area but superior Tory organisation created a 'safe ward'. |
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Post by hullenedge on Jun 30, 2018 22:09:03 GMT
Some Liverpool by-elections:-
21st March 1974
Low Hill/Smithdown Davies LIB 1513 Winter LAB 1455 Fagan CON 181 (no change - caused by resignation)
Speke Short LAB 2391 Phillips CON 427 McKittrick LIB 250 (no change - caused by resignation)
11th July 1974
Tuebrook Mitchell LAB 1477 Gore LIB 942 Jennings CON 931 Cobham NF 134 McCullough IND LIB 31 Murray PEOPLE 20 (Lab gain from Lib - caused by resignation)
St. Michael's Moss CON 1092 Hughes LAB 722 Christian LIB 669 (Con gain from Lib - caused by resignation)
5th December 1974
Gillmoss Roderick LAB 1437 Snell LAB 1262 Boyd LIB 509 Arstall LIB 368 Kingston CON 326 Dougherty CON 316 (no change - double vacancy caused by death and election as MP)
12th December 1974
Gillmoss (Merseyside CC) Roderick LAB 794 Boyd LIB 345 Kingston CON 109 (no change - caused by death...6% poll).
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Post by greenhert on Jun 30, 2018 22:28:48 GMT
I think Mr/Ms Murray may have been the very first Green (PEOPLE became the Ecology Party, which is now the Green Party) candidate to contest a local by-election in the whole of the UK.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 1, 2018 10:09:56 GMT
Bizarre that there was a double vacancy in Gillmoss one week and then an election for the third seat the following week
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 1, 2018 10:21:25 GMT
Bizarre that there was a double vacancy in Gillmoss one week and then an election for the third seat the following week Indeed, was there perhaps a rule against combining DC and CC polls in those days? In the circumstances, the turnout for the CC vacancy doesn't really surprise overmuch  |
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Post by yellowperil on Jul 1, 2018 10:27:40 GMT
I think Mr/Ms Murray may have been the very first Green (PEOPLE became the Ecology Party, which is now the Green Party) candidate to contest a local by-election in the whole of the UK. from small beginnings.... well, small outcomes, I suppose  |
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Post by hullenedge on Jul 2, 2018 20:18:28 GMT
West Midlands County Council by-elections 1973-1985 3.5.79 - Birmingham (Brandwood) - James (Con)9262, Price (Lab)7044 Not sure if this situation could happen nowadays. There was a rule that only two sets of ballot papers could be issued at a polling station therefore Brandwood had to be assigned extra polling stations for this West Mids Metro CC by-election. The white papers (General Election) and tinted ones (Birmingham City) were issued in sixteen stations (open 7am to 10pm) whereas the green papers (County) were issued at another nearby sixteen stations (open 8am to 9pm). Looking at the results it appears that a fair number of Liberal supporters didn't bother casting County ballots. There were reports of the wrong papers in the wrong boxes...you can understand some confusion but...something embarrassing happened in the Erdington ward. During the morning it was spotted that the National Front candidate was described as Labour on the ballot papers. Council officials quickly printed fresh papers but it was impossible to retrieve votes already cast. Council lawyers advised that the poll should proceed. Labour gained the ward by 29 votes. The NF candidate polled 575. |
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Post by tonyhill on Jul 29, 2018 21:35:07 GMT
Sorry about the belated response to this fantastic collection of results Alan. I have been cross-checking against what remains of my database (most of which I threw away years ago thinking it was no longer of any interest - idiot), and there are a few cases where my data differs from yours. I don't have the primary information any more so it is possible that I have made mistakes (I know I was less meticulous in the 70s than I have been later in life) but, for example, I have a by-election for the Brighton Pier Division in March 1975 which I don't think was in your list. If you send me your email address it might be easier than swapping minor changes on this site: tonyhill48@outlook.com
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Post by johnbirch on Sept 26, 2018 21:25:33 GMT
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Post by johnbirch on Sept 26, 2018 21:30:10 GMT
Yes - Guilty as Charged! I have collected local election results from the 60's having been frustrated by the total lack of official recorded elections results outside of London. In which case... can you help me with Hertfordshire by-election from 1973 to 1996? I've been working on Hertfordshire elections for the website (https://www.hertfordshire.gov.uk/media-library/documents/about-the-council/election-results.pdf) - but am missing a few of the early ones. Thanks! |
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Post by greenhert on Sept 26, 2018 22:43:13 GMT
Fond memories of my first electoral attempt back in 2013 |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 27, 2018 10:51:45 GMT
Yes - Guilty as Charged! I have collected local election results from the 60's having been frustrated by the total lack of official recorded elections results outside of London. In which case... can you help me with Hertfordshire by-election from 1973 to 1996? I've been working on Hertfordshire elections for the website (https://www.hertfordshire.gov.uk/media-library/documents/about-the-council/election-results.pdf) - but am missing a few of the early ones. Thanks! Hertfordshire results are listed on the third page of this thread - does that provide some of the missing results for you? |
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Post by matureleft on Sept 27, 2018 11:51:36 GMT
Cambridgeshire County Council by-elections 1973-1985 1973-1977 24.9.74 - Newmarket Rural No.1 - Wollard (Con)1627, Spiller (Lab)320 6.2.75 - Norman Cross - Wilson (Con)997, Cawton (Lib)903 6.2.75 - Ely Rural No.2 - Read (Con)1377, Fitzgibbons (Lib)573, Fryer (Ind)490 2.10.75 - Cambridge (Trumpington) - Brookes (Con)1056, Pettifor (Lab)493, Greaves (Lib)115 8.4.76 - Peterborough No.2 - Cleverley (Lab)936, Lea (Con)851 17.6.76 - St.Ives - Hasford (Con)1243, Hodgson (Ind Lib)1113 1977-1981 30.3.78 - Ramsey - Pickard (Con)863, Mumby (Lab)219 June 78 - South Cambridgeshire No.1 - Seels (Con)599, Hutcherson (Lib)542, Comfort (Ind)453 1.2.79 - Cambridge (Romsey) - Hipkin (Lab)794, Coleman (Con)501, Charlesworth (Lib)288 15.11.79 - Wisbech No.1 - Wallace (Con)556, Sharp (Lib)542, Potter (Lab)360 31.1.80 - Peterborough (Old Fletton No.1) - Cashmore (Lab)606, Sneesby (Con)310, Smith (Lib)126 27.3.80 - Wisbech Rural No.2 - Wrout (Lib)890, Cotterell (Con)762, Owen (Lab)160 19.6.80 - Peterborough (Dogsthorpe) - Minors (Lib)1891, Easton (Lab)1327, Coleman (Con)330 1981-1985 19.1.84 - Chesterton No.7 - Nicholls (Lib/SDP)1679, Mann (Con)1453, Davie (Lab)269 13.12.84 - Ely Urban - Ward (Lib)1064, Miller (Con)1028, Jefferies (Lab)388 Quite a few names ring bells here but I'd pick a couple.
Pettifor in Trumpington is Ann Pettifor, a noted economist and predictor of the crises of 2007-8, and involved in the debt cancellation campaign, Jubilee 2000. More recently she was on John McDonnel's advisory panel. She was briefly a city councillor in Arbury ward (1976-8) but became fed up with the then pretty conservative Labour group (and anyway had work prospects elsewhere).
Hipkin in Romsey shows John Hipkin's initial foray into Cambridge politics. It was a bitterly cold campaign (Cambridge has some pretty nasty winters). He then defected to the SDP, transferred to the LibDems and then became an Independent, all elsewhere in the city (at that time, as he found in 1985, Romsey wasn't great for the Alliance and he didn't live there.)
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Post by johnbirch on Sept 28, 2018 17:38:07 GMT
In which case... can you help me with Hertfordshire by-election from 1973 to 1996? I've been working on Hertfordshire elections for the website (https://www.hertfordshire.gov.uk/media-library/documents/about-the-council/election-results.pdf) - but am missing a few of the early ones. Thanks! Hertfordshire results are listed on the third page of this thread - does that provide some of the missing results for you? Brilliant! I think all we are now missing are 7 by-elections between 1988 & 1995. With the dates I should be able to look up turnout figures, full names, etc. in the archives some lunchtime or two. I'll then get them to update the document on the website. (This all began when a former member died and I realised that the information we had about him in our "history" made no sense, after which I spotted a few more oddities, and then began to get mildly obsessive...) |
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Post by johnbirch on Oct 1, 2018 11:16:27 GMT
I might add that is anyone wants an Excel spreadsheet with all of the Hertfordshire CC results from 1973-date please let me know.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 17, 2020 19:11:25 GMT
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Post by November_Rain on Jun 18, 2020 11:23:47 GMT
Thank you for the link David Boothroyd. Question, how do I view a CSV file correctly, as the data is all over the place? I don't use Microsoft Office, and Open Office has everything as numbers, and the online 365 the file is over the limit.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 18, 2020 12:06:06 GMT
Normally in OpenOffice, if you open a .csv document, it will open a dialogue box for "Text import". In this case, the data is separated by commas, which should be detected. Do that and it appears in proper columns.
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Post by November_Rain on Jun 18, 2020 12:54:36 GMT
Normally in OpenOffice, if you open a .csv document, it will open a dialogue box for "Text import". In this case, the data is separated by commas, which should be detected. Do that and it appears in proper columns. It's worked - thank you |
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