cogload
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Post by cogload on Feb 10, 2019 11:37:59 GMT
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Post by greenhert on Feb 10, 2019 13:47:21 GMT
Then again, Independent Kerryn Phelps won the Wentworth by-election last year, despite Wentworth being otherwise one of the safest federal Liberal divisions in all Australia. There is a chance she may hold it. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 19, 2019 23:38:18 GMT
New South Wales election on Saturday. Current polls put it very close, with the Liberal/National coalition likely to lose its majority to a hung Parliament in the Legislative Assembly.
But Mark Latham (standing for One Nation) looks likely to win a seat in the NSW Legislative Council, which is electing half of its members.
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Mar 19, 2019 23:44:40 GMT
But Mark Latham (standing for One Nation) looks likely to win a seat in the NSW Legislative Council, which is electing half of its members. Imagine trying to explain that to someone in 2004. Like something from a fever dream. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 19, 2019 23:53:13 GMT
But Mark Latham (standing for One Nation) looks likely to win a seat in the NSW Legislative Council, which is electing half of its members. Imagine trying to explain that to someone in 2004. Like something from a fever dream. Even weirder is that he isn't a fringe figure, even now. |
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Post by pragmaticidealist on Mar 20, 2019 13:12:36 GMT
Imagine trying to explain that to someone in 2004. Like something from a fever dream. Even weirder is that he isn't a fringe figure, even now. There's always the chance that he could blow it by breaking someone's arm (or attempting to do so) before Saturday. |
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Post by Foggy on Mar 23, 2019 9:15:58 GMT
Votes are being counted in the NSW state election. The ABC has just called it for the Coalition, but can't yet say for sure whether it'll be a minority or majority government. |
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Post by Antiochian on Mar 23, 2019 10:11:17 GMT
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Post by timmullen1 on Mar 23, 2019 10:15:45 GMT
Would be fascinating to see tracking polls; Labor have had an appalling last week with their Leader unable to recall his policies during a televised debate and being caught on video making crudely racist remarks. |
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 23, 2019 10:40:04 GMT
NSW Labour has long been a basket case, no?
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Post by timmullen1 on Mar 23, 2019 10:53:33 GMT
NSW Labour has long been a basket case, no? It seems so; this guy’s only been in the job 130-some days. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 23, 2019 10:54:58 GMT
NSW Labour has long been a basket case, no? Since Billy Hughes's time, basically. |
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Post by bungle on Mar 23, 2019 11:39:14 GMT
NSW Labour has long been a basket case, no? Since Billy Hughes's time, basically. Well that makes it quite an electorally successful basket case then. There's hope for Corbyn after all. There is no hiding the factions and the competing self/group interests in NSW Labor. The job of the leader is to tame them enough and present a competent approach towards government. Bob Carr managed to do both - 17 years as leader and 3 election victories (with increasing majorities). Once he retired you knew the dam would burst eventually - I was surprised it took until 2008 to really crumble apart. |
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Post by pragmaticidealist on Mar 23, 2019 11:51:40 GMT
Taking into account the optional preferencing that NSW has, the Coalition may be quite comfortably ahead in the 2PP vote once all is said and done. Which would make it the second state election in a row in which the polls have kind of cocked it up; relatively unusual for Australia.
As for the state of NSW Labor, it may say something that the last federal Labor leader to be based in NSW was none other than a certain gentleman who has just won a Legislative Council seat.
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Post by bungle on Mar 23, 2019 12:33:43 GMT
Would be fascinating to see tracking polls; Labor have had an appalling last week with their Leader unable to recall his policies during a televised debate and being caught on video making crudely racist remarks. Looking at the polling metrics from 2015 you can see from the 2PP that this was always going to be an election for the Libs-Nats to lose rather than Labor to win. The government itself wasn't a basket case and there is still some long-standing residual reluctance to turn back to Labor just yet (which clearly events of the last week won't have helped assuage but it was always there). Labor only went into a small 2PP lead in June last year and it has been around 50:50 ever since. The result today looks about par. The fundamental problem for Daley as a leader was he was too easily tied into all the effluvia from the last Labor government like Eddie Obeid and he didn't have long enough to sustain a rebuttal of that impression. Labor just need to continue to clear the decks of anyone pre-2011 but Daley will argue that only having 130 days in the job he should get to carry on. His campaigning inabilities in last week won't help him with that argument. That said, one unintended consequence of Daley's comments was that his one time leadership rival Chris Minns nearly ended up losing his Kograh seat (population - 28% Chinese heritage). There's definitely a touch of the Tony Blair about Minns...his time may yet come or it could quickly founder in the factional cesspit that swallows up many in NSW. Interesting times. |
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Post by Antiochian on Mar 23, 2019 15:23:24 GMT
Since Billy Hughes's time, basically. Well that makes it quite an electorally successful basket case then. There's hope for Corbyn after all. There is no hiding the factions and the competing self/group interests in NSW Labor. The job of the leader is to tame them enough and present a competent approach towards government. Bob Carr managed to do both - 17 years as leader and 3 election victories (with increasing majorities). Once he retired you knew the dam would burst eventually - I was surprised it took until 2008 to really crumble apart. The ALP in NSW didn't go through the Refiner's Fire of the DLP Split in 1956 because the Catholics were on top in NSW Labour. Thus the party in NSW remained very much of the Tammany Hall style of Labour that it had always been in Sydney. The Split lingers on..... |
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Post by greenhert on Mar 24, 2019 14:28:55 GMT
On current results, the Coalition majority will be just 3-but on final transfers the Berejiklian government could be reduced to a minority government: www.abc.net.au/news/elections/nsw/2019/resultsNSW Labor only gained the electorates of Coogee and Lismore. The Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party gained Barwon and Murray and held their by-election gain of Orange. |
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Post by greenhert on Mar 26, 2019 10:43:54 GMT
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Toylyyev
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Post by Toylyyev on Mar 26, 2019 14:32:47 GMT
NSW Labour has long been a basket case, no? Since Billy Hughes's time, basically. The interest taken was a while ago, and the recollection has been slowly fading, but as a Holman fanboy i had always put that ball squarely into Jack Lang's court. |
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Clarko
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Post by Clarko on Mar 27, 2019 12:13:49 GMT
Has anyone got a link to the ABC election night coverage - I caught a bit of it live on Saturday morning, but I had to go out.
I can't seem to find it on Youtube anywhere.
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