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Post by neilm on Jan 18, 2017 13:13:21 GMT
I've gone FDP but could switch to AfD.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 13:15:13 GMT
AfD, as might be expected.
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Post by mrpastelito on Jan 18, 2017 13:21:25 GMT
I've gone FDP but could switch to AfD. With me it's the other way round. |
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Post by neilm on Jan 18, 2017 13:27:17 GMT
I've gone FDP but could switch to AfD. With me it's the other way round. I think there may be a lot of crossover. The FDP are basically corporate shills these days which puts me off. |
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Post by John Chanin on Jan 18, 2017 14:25:06 GMT
The point about the FDP is that it could well be in government, whereas no-one will work with the AFD. A majority coalition might be put together with the CDU, FDP & Greens. A minority government with tacit SPD or Green support might be put together with the CDU and FDP. There will be no appetite in the SPD for a continuation of the grand coalition I suspect. The SPD & Greens will be unable to organise a coalition, even with Die Linke. It is clear that 6 parties will make it into the Bundestag this time, making German politics more similar to elsewhere in Europe.
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Post by Foggy on Jan 18, 2017 18:09:01 GMT
With me it's the other way round. I think there may be a lot of crossover. The FDP are basically corporate shills these days which puts me off. I've seen their election posters from 65 years ago and it appears to me that they were always low-tax arch free marketeers. They've never really emphasised their socially liberal side, or done much on that front when junior coalition partners at the federal level. |
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Post by akmd on Jan 18, 2017 18:44:00 GMT
I'd actually have go to Green if I was a German citizen. SPD seem too Blairite these days while Die Linke have too many dodgy characters among their ranks to receive my support. German Greens seem reasonably left-leaning so I'd have to choose them.
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Post by jamie on Jan 18, 2017 20:14:20 GMT
Katrin Göring-Eckardt and Cem Özdemir were chosen as lead Green candidates. The former was unopposed while the latter very marginally won against challengers from the left. Both are from the more centrist wing of the German Green Party, although that's more about messaging than policy imo. For example, Göring-Eckardt appeals to CDU voters by framing progressive taxation in Christian messaging. Suggests the Greens will be looking into getting into government with Merkel as part of the grand coalition. I couldn't see them entering a formal coalition with the CDU and FDP together as it would be too right leaning,
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Post by freefair on Jan 18, 2017 23:13:13 GMT
I'd imagine most UK LibDems would be Greens in Germany, certainly plenty of Tories could vote FDP. On the subject, though, I'd constituency vote CDU and list vote FDP.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 19, 2017 7:52:28 GMT
CSU if I could, FDP if not. The earlier incarnation of the AfD might have tempted me.
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Post by maxque on Jan 19, 2017 8:08:59 GMT
Well, the fact so many people are ready to back a party whose a regional officer said than Holocaust Memorials should be replaced by German Pride memorials, without any reaction from party leadership is worrying.
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Post by YL on Jan 19, 2017 8:33:50 GMT
Well, the fact so many people are ready to back a party whose a regional officer said than Holocaust Memorials should be replaced by German Pride memorials, without any reaction from party leadership is worrying. It isn't very surprising, though, given the number of UKIP supporters and anti-EU Tories on here. None of the other German parties are likely to be very appealing to them, and they either choose to ignore or secretly sympathise with the fascist element in the AfD. Anyway, I would probably support the Greens. |
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Post by Antiochian on Jan 19, 2017 9:32:33 GMT
I'd imagine most UK LibDems would be Greens in Germany, certainly plenty of Tories could vote FDP. On the subject, though, I'd constituency vote CDU and list vote FDP. You'd be amazed how many LibDems think Merkel walks on water.... Myself not being one of them.. |
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Post by iainbhx on Jan 19, 2017 10:30:51 GMT
What no option for the CSU for those of us who would prefer to live in Bayern.
CSU Erststimme, FDP Zweitstimme - I suppose.
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Post by iain on Jan 19, 2017 12:11:15 GMT
Are there many differences between the CDU and CSU?
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Post by jamie on Jan 19, 2017 12:13:15 GMT
Are there many differences between the CDU and CSU? CSU are somewhat more socially conservative and anti-immigration but basically the same as Merkel on economics. |
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Post by Foggy on Jan 19, 2017 20:25:13 GMT
What no option for the CSU for those of us who would prefer to live in Bayern. I know some such people. They aren't right in the head. You can either embrace your Austrian or German side, but don't sit on the fence in Bavarian purgatory limbo all your life!  |
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Post by Toylyyev on Jan 19, 2017 21:37:17 GMT
Well, the fact so many people are ready to back a party whose a regional officer said than Holocaust Memorials should be replaced by German Pride memorials, without any reaction from party leadership is worrying. It isn't very surprising, though, given the number of UKIP supporters and anti-EU Tories on here. None of the other German parties are likely to be very appealing to them, and they either choose to ignore or secretly sympathise with the fascist element in the AfD. Fiercest native resistance back in the times. |
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Post by mrpastelito on Jan 19, 2017 22:16:22 GMT
What no option for the CSU for those of us who would prefer to live in Bayern. I know some such people. They aren't right in the head. You can either embrace your Austrian or German side, but don't sit on the fence in Bavarian purgatory limbo all your life! Bismarck once famously quipped 'A Bavarian is half-way between an Austrian and a human.' Whereas Austrian friends of mine opined that Bavarians were Austrians who for some obscure reason believed they were Germans... Historically speaking Austria is a Bavarian spin-off  |
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