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Post by Adam in Stroud on Jan 14, 2017 0:07:00 GMT
Why do people think the Lib Dems will do well here given the large leave vote and terrible starting position. Labour hold on 35% of the vote for me. Intresting who will get the momentum for 2nd place. Thing to bear in mind is that, as with Copeland, LDs have nothing to lose here. As with Witney, a good campaign with a strong swing to LD is good enough. Energises the local activists, gets some media coverage, gives new members in the region a chance to have a go at campaigning. Opportunity to hoist ourselves into that second place - which would be an excellent result here - and distinctly helpful when it comes to next GE. Chance to stymie UKIP, especially if Nuttall stands - damaging UKIP as the party of local community is helpful to us, so long as we don't chase protest votes indiscriminately. Chance to challenge both Labour and Conservative as party of normal sensible people. Tiny things like the betting odds on LDs dramatically shortening here are trivial in themselves but cumulatively useful in reminding people we exist - which is still top of the agenda. So maybe a few people get over-excited about the Sunderland council by-election and start thinking LDs are worth a punt on long odds in Stoke; this is a good thing for us. We want people thinking like that. If we tank in places like these it will barely register with the media. Whereas if by-elections keep coming along with this regularity, there's always the chance of one of them throwing up a freak result for us. |
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Post by Richard Allen on Jan 14, 2017 1:41:42 GMT
Everyone who says Tristram Hunt didn't fit Stoke Central should note that his Labour predecessors were an Old Etonian playwright, a university lecturer, and a Czech-Jewish doctor. And Stoke South MPs included a Cambridge graduate TV producer. Yet a pretty good case can be made that Fisher was a much better representative of the people of Stoke-on-Trent Central than Hunt has been. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 9:44:44 GMT
Newport's (South Wales) finest has his take:
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Post by La Fontaine on Jan 14, 2017 9:59:01 GMT
Newport's (South Wales) finest has his take: Nor indeed for people who can spell "academia". |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Jan 14, 2017 10:11:42 GMT
Maybe he's going to study macadamias? Had enough of the nuts in Momentum?
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Post by The Bishop on Jan 14, 2017 10:24:59 GMT
Yes, that's why Tristram Hunt was so woefully ill-fitted to politics - he was a "thinker".
No wonder Blairites like Rushmore are in such a state when they comfort themselves with that crap.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 14, 2017 10:27:04 GMT
Yes, that's why Tristram Hunt was so woefully ill-fitted to politics - he was a "thinker". No wonder Blairites like Rushmore are in such a state when they comfort themselves with that crap. You've read it the wrong way round. It's Paul Flynn who was saying "thinkers" were unsuitable for the Labour Party in the era of Jeremy Corbyn, and Jimmy Rushmore is pointing to the idiocy of this opinion. |
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Post by The Bishop on Jan 14, 2017 10:31:47 GMT
Knowing the past output of Flynn, I might just posit the idea that he wasn't *totally* serious  Indeed, whatever else you say about him he is an obviously intelligent man. |
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Post by andrew111 on Jan 14, 2017 10:47:13 GMT
I'm quite proud of my accent (South Cheshire so not quite as strong as shown above!) and don't try to tone it down too much. But I have had to stop pronouncing "it" as "eet" since it causes too many southerners to roll about winth laughter. My mother was from Cheshire.. all her life she pronounced fourteen as fowteen.. which caused me some embarrassment at infants school in Sheffield when that was the number I had to call out in front of everyone. Mind you I think she could rather pull rank regarding numbers since last year the Manchester University School of Mathematics named a room after her! |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 14, 2017 12:11:02 GMT
I aren't getting into that Shug.   Castkickabo'aginstthewa'annotbostit? |
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Post by neilm on Jan 14, 2017 16:38:30 GMT
Hugh Fraser was only elected MP for Stone in 1945 (Stafford & Stone from 1950). At that time all of Trentham was outside the city boundary and within the Stone constituency Typo sorry, omitted "future" before MP; I'm not sure whether he was PPC (did they call them that?) at the time, but there was a close connection with the Kennedy family, which persists to the present apparently as Lady Antonia was taken ill in Washington when attending Ted's funeral. I thought Joe Kennedy didn't return to the UK after ceasing to be ambassador in 1940. |
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Post by neilm on Jan 14, 2017 16:50:13 GMT
I am currently on a train sat at Stoke railway station, on the way to Manchester. There's an attractive red head opposite me.
What is the large, 1930s, brick, municipal looking building on my right?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 14, 2017 16:58:05 GMT
Staffordshire University? (just looked on Google streetview and there's an attractive brunette too)
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 14, 2017 17:06:26 GMT
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 14, 2017 17:07:02 GMT
I am currently on a train sat at Stoke railway station, on the way to Manchester. There's an attractive red head opposite me. What is the large, 1930s, brick, municipal looking building on my right? As Pete says it might be Staffs University (originally opened as a mining college) or possibly the British Pottery Manufacturer's Federation Club? www.thepotteries.org/location/districts/winton_wood2.htm |
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Post by AdminSTB on Jan 14, 2017 17:08:51 GMT
I am currently on a train sat at Stoke railway station, on the way to Manchester. There's an attractive red head opposite me. What is the large, 1930s, brick, municipal looking building on my right? I think you might be referring to Federation House? It was originally offices of the pottery industry's insurance scheme. It is home to the British Pottery Manufacturers' Federation Club, or Potter's Club, as it is better known. The Queen has been there. www.stokesentinel.co.uk/federation-house-stoke/story-12522043-detail/story.html |
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Post by neilm on Jan 14, 2017 17:35:06 GMT
Thanks gents.
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Post by Khunanup on Jan 14, 2017 18:32:02 GMT
I am currently on a train sat at Stoke railway station, on the way to Manchester. There's an attractive red head opposite me. What is the large, 1930s, brick, municipal looking building on my right? What's my wife doing on a train to Manchester?!  |
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Post by Zardoz on Jan 14, 2017 19:40:39 GMT
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 14, 2017 20:31:04 GMT
I know! He was cherry-picking. It isn't all as nice as that. |
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