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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 13, 2017 16:31:10 GMT
PS two words: "Chris Williamson" I'm hoping for Katie Ghose and a website showing the White Cliffs of Fenton. I'm expecting all the candidates to do the photo-op at the Fenton Seal Sanctuary. (Only then to realise that it's in Stoke South.)
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 13, 2017 16:33:42 GMT
Stoke is the largest city in Britain I have yet to visit. Looks like a good opportunity to change that. (Tentative) Pedant Alert. Stoke is a town. One of the six towns (Arnold Bennett couldn't count) which constitute :- The City of Stoke-on-Trent.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 13, 2017 16:36:07 GMT
Stoke is the largest city in Britain I have yet to visit. Looks like a good opportunity to change that. Trentham Gardens is very nice, but I'm not sure whether it's just outside the city boundary in the south. Bizarrely they appear to be in Stafford Borough!
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 13, 2017 16:36:46 GMT
Stoke station is rubbish, I can tell you that. Any particular reason?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 16:37:02 GMT
The proposed Stoke on Trent South
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 13, 2017 17:05:00 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 13, 2017 17:06:07 GMT
Stoke is the largest city in Britain I have yet to visit. Looks like a good opportunity to change that. (Tentative) Pedant Alert. Stoke is a town. One of the six towns (Arnold Bennett couldn't count) which constitute :- The City of Stoke-on-Trent. He could count, just thought five sounded better. If we are being really pedantic, isn't it made up of even more towns but six boroughs? Me duck.
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Post by timmullen1 on Jan 13, 2017 17:07:52 GMT
Trentham Gardens is very nice, but I'm not sure whether it's just outside the city boundary in the south. Bizarrely they appear to be in Stafford Borough! Why bizarrely? The original home of the Dukes of Sutherland were there way before Federation of the six towns, and Royal Charter creating the City.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 13, 2017 17:17:49 GMT
Bizarrely they appear to be in Stafford Borough! Why bizarrely? The original home of the Dukes of Sutherland were there way before Federation of the six towns, and Royal Charter creating the City. Well, because they are about 4 miles from Stoke, 4 miles from Newcastle and 15 miles from Stafford!
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 13, 2017 17:18:28 GMT
(Tentative) Pedant Alert. Stoke is a town. One of the six towns (Arnold Bennett couldn't count) which constitute :- The City of Stoke-on-Trent. He could count, just thought five sounded better. If we are being really pedantic, isn't it made up of even more towns but six boroughs? Me duck. I aren't getting into that Shug.
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Post by froome on Jan 13, 2017 17:26:10 GMT
Stoke is the largest city in Britain I have yet to visit. Looks like a good opportunity to change that. (Tentative) Pedant Alert. Stoke is a town. One of the six towns (Arnold Bennett couldn't count) which constitute :- The City of Stoke-on-Trent. I did realise that. What I had forgotten was the pedantry of this forum. How that happened I can't imagine.
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Post by neilm on Jan 13, 2017 17:34:46 GMT
Stoke station is rubbish, I can tell you that. Any particular reason? DB is right, it's a bit rubbish. The building looks nice but it's one of the stations, like Tamworth, where the cafe/buffet never seems to be open. Also the wifi hasn't worked every time I've been there: minor issues admittedly but given how Virgin targets business travellers you'd think they'd make a bit of an effort. I may make the trip up for this, it's pretty close.
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 13, 2017 18:11:18 GMT
Stoke station is rubbish, I can tell you that. Are you now planning on renewing your acquaintance? I might do an overnight just so as I can go on the piss Police were called to a pub in Stoke on Trent tonight where a group of men were engaged in rowdy agreements about borough boundaries. "This sort of thing can't be allowed to go on" said a spokesman "Local people are entitled to a by election free from psephologists" .
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Post by cibwr on Jan 13, 2017 18:34:28 GMT
Only been to Stoke Central once, in the early 1980s as a guest of the Potteries Lesbian and Gay Youth Group who hosted a Weekend Workshop for various UK local LGBT youth groups... shortly after the LGB centre that hosted the event was demolished (as were two gay pubs) to make way for a road improvement scheme, some how I never had any reason to go back..... Yeah I know what you mean.. what's the point of visiting anywhere unless it's hosting an LGBT workshop? Unfortunately its not a conglomeration of towns that has had any real reason for me to visit, though I'd be glad of any suggestions why I should.
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Post by cibwr on Jan 13, 2017 18:37:48 GMT
Yeah I know what you mean.. what's the point of visiting anywhere unless it's hosting an LGBT workshop? I'd normally agree. But to be fair, this is Stoke. The best reason to go are the oatcakes. I rather like oatcakes, but they were available is South Staffs and the Black Country too... (actually also in Sainsbury's in Queen Street, Cardiff)
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Post by timmullen1 on Jan 13, 2017 19:30:56 GMT
Why bizarrely? The original home of the Dukes of Sutherland were there way before Federation of the six towns, and Royal Charter creating the City. Well, because they are about 4 miles from Stoke, 4 miles from Newcastle and 15 miles from Stafford! Stafford Borough itself comes right up to the City boundary; even we didn't realise until the mid-1990's boundary review that came in for the 1997 General Election that the Douglas Macmillan Hospice in Trentham is about 10 yards outside the City boundaries, but the former Wedgwood houses directly opposite were inside the City. Much of Trentham itself is on land formerly owned by the Dukes of Sutherland, and one of my first jobs when working for Rob Flello was joining the local residents association in getting a load of Tree Preservation Orders as they were part of Capability Brown's original landscaped garden. Another hint is quite a well publicised photograph of Lieutenant John F Kennedy accompanying his father and Sir Hugh Fraser, MP for Stafford and Stone, visiting US troops stationed on the grounds of the Gardens in the build-up to D-Day.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 13, 2017 19:50:37 GMT
Well, because they are about 4 miles from Stoke, 4 miles from Newcastle and 15 miles from Stafford! Stafford Borough itself comes right up to the City boundary; even we didn't realise until the mid-1990's boundary review that came in for the 1997 General Election that the Douglas Macmillan Hospice in Trentham is about 10 yards outside the City boundaries, but the former Wedgwood houses directly opposite were inside the City. Much of Trentham itself is on land formerly owned by the Dukes of Sutherland, and one of my first jobs when working for Rob Flello was joining the local residents association in getting a load of Tree Preservation Orders as they were part of Capability Brown's original landscaped garden. Another hint is quite a well publicised photograph of Lieutenant John F Kennedy accompanying his father and Sir Hugh Fraser, MP for Stafford and Stone, visiting US troops stationed on the grounds of the Gardens in the build-up to D-Day. Well clearly the Stafford Borough has to come up to the city boundary - it just seems too far north!
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jan 13, 2017 20:11:45 GMT
Stafford Borough itself comes right up to the City boundary; even we didn't realise until the mid-1990's boundary review that came in for the 1997 General Election that the Douglas Macmillan Hospice in Trentham is about 10 yards outside the City boundaries, but the former Wedgwood houses directly opposite were inside the City. ... Well clearly the Stafford Borough has to come up to the city boundary - it just seems too far north! Upon assuming my untrammelled powers as government map-drawer, the solution is simple
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Post by timmullen1 on Jan 13, 2017 20:28:46 GMT
Stafford Borough itself comes right up to the City boundary; even we didn't realise until the mid-1990's boundary review that came in for the 1997 General Election that the Douglas Macmillan Hospice in Trentham is about 10 yards outside the City boundaries, but the former Wedgwood houses directly opposite were inside the City. Much of Trentham itself is on land formerly owned by the Dukes of Sutherland, and one of my first jobs when working for Rob Flello was joining the local residents association in getting a load of Tree Preservation Orders as they were part of Capability Brown's original landscaped garden. Another hint is quite a well publicised photograph of Lieutenant John F Kennedy accompanying his father and Sir Hugh Fraser, MP for Stafford and Stone, visiting US troops stationed on the grounds of the Gardens in the build-up to D-Day. Well clearly the Stafford Borough has to come up to the city boundary - it just seems too far north! Or Stoke's too far South.... (which actually I suspect isn't as daft as it sounds as most of this part of Stoke is post-WWII development suggesting urban sprawl has infringed on Stafford's green and pleasant lands).
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