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Post by mboy on Jun 18, 2017 22:43:22 GMT
Valls re-elected, but election will be likely annulled. In Corbeil-Essonnes, a recount, held in private without the presence of the FI candidate, found around 150 more votes for Valls. Valls won by 139 votes. Lol. Not dodgy at all. |
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Post by andrea on Jun 18, 2017 22:47:19 GMT
REM 300 seats
MoDem 41
Les Républicains 113
UDI 16
Others Right 6
PS 29
Others Left 11
Parti radical de gauche 3
Greens 1 (he will back Macron IIRC)
Régionaliste 5
Debout la France (Nicolas Dupont-Aignat) 1
FN 8
Ligue du Sud (Bompard) 1
La France insoumise 17
Parti communiste français 10
Others 2
13 left to declare. 11 of them are for ex spats (I believe they are all expected to go Macron)
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Post by maxque on Jun 18, 2017 22:53:29 GMT
Valls re-elected, but election will be likely annulled. In Corbeil-Essonnes, a recount, held in private without the presence of the FI candidate, found around 150 more votes for Valls. Valls won by 139 votes. Lol. Not dodgy at all. Finally, it seems the Corbeil results went from FI candidate winning by 15ish votes in the town, to 300 lead for Valls. It's obviously larger than Valls majority. It will go to the Constitutionnal Court, ruling in the coming weeks, but it's likely to be annulled as they seem to have solid proof. Also, Serge Dassault, the mayor, has a track record from that (he was destitued for rigging the municipal elections in the past). |
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Post by maxque on Jun 19, 2017 6:39:52 GMT
Valls re-elected, but election will be likely annulled. In Corbeil-Essonnes, a recount, held in private without the presence of the FI candidate, found around 150 more votes for Valls. Valls won by 139 votes. Lol. Not dodgy at all. We now have some reports the ballots might have been destroyed (illegally) right after the recount, barring any judicial control. |
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Post by maxque on Jun 19, 2017 6:52:21 GMT
We can add France has a tradition of municipal officials trying to rid elections, including both the 2008 municipal elections (vote buying and non declaration of them on the accounts) and the 2009 rerun (due to them putting the name of the former mayor on the ballot, ineligible to run due to the vote buying of last election, while it's banned to have names of non-candidates on them) in Corbeil-Essonnes itself. He has a track record.
There is a "funny" case of that in 2008 in Perpignan. The president of a voting station was found with multiple ballots for the incumbent mayor in his socks and, with an accomplice, signing for other electors (to account for the ballots he was likely adding to the ballot box).
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Post by mboy on Jun 19, 2017 7:26:17 GMT
I guess the French system, where voters do not need to mark the ballot, also actually makes it very easy to add votes to any pile...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 7:31:23 GMT
9.9% blank or invalid votes. New record. Only 42.6% turnout. Also new record. A mere 38.4% of registered voters cast a valid vote, not much of a mandate for the assembly.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 19, 2017 7:31:53 GMT
France really does have some characters and chancers in local government. The late Georges Frêche being a favourite source of amusement.
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Post by maxque on Jun 19, 2017 8:23:20 GMT
France really does have some characters and chancers in local government. The late Georges Frêche being a favourite source of amusement. He was an equal opportinuity insulter. I'm not sure there is a group he never offended (well, he offended both Catholics and non-Catholics at different instances, so). |
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Post by yellowperil on Jun 19, 2017 8:41:39 GMT
Going into an election expecting a landslide and not quite getting it -sounds familiar, but Macron is no May
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 19, 2017 8:49:46 GMT
Going into an election expecting a landslide and not quite getting it -sounds familiar, but Macron is no May The turnout says it all. Its still much more a rejection of politics as it has been than an enthusiastic backing of Macron. But he has his majority, although I'm still not convinced that the coalition he has put together is particularly coherent, and so now its up to him to put his policies into practice. Its notable that not only have the socialists collapsed (expected and frankly, deserved), not helped by the silliness of not reaching an agreement across the left in the first round which would have netted a number of seats - but the conventional right have also done badly, which was perhaps less predicatable. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 8:58:04 GMT
Going into an election expecting a landslide and not quite getting it -sounds familiar, but Macron is no May The turnout says it all. Its still much more a rejection of politics as it has been than an enthusiastic backing of Macron. But he has his majority, although I'm still not convinced that the coalition he has put together is particularly coherent, and so now its up to him to put his policies into practice. Its notable that not only have the socialists collapsed (expected and frankly, deserved), not helped by the silliness of not reaching an agreement across the left in the first round which would have netted a number of seats - but the conventional right have also done badly, which was perhaps less predicatable.Much less badly than it looked like only a few days ago. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 19, 2017 9:05:44 GMT
The turnout says it all. Its still much more a rejection of politics as it has been than an enthusiastic backing of Macron. But he has his majority, although I'm still not convinced that the coalition he has put together is particularly coherent, and so now its up to him to put his policies into practice. Its notable that not only have the socialists collapsed (expected and frankly, deserved), not helped by the silliness of not reaching an agreement across the left in the first round which would have netted a number of seats - but the conventional right have also done badly, which was perhaps less predicatable.Much less badly than it looked like only a few days ago. True, but in the normal run of things they should have won handsomely, given the ineptitude of the past administration. Its going to be easier for the left to regroup and restructure themselves than the conventional right, paradoxically. |
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Post by andrea on Jun 19, 2017 13:13:07 GMT
147 MPs re-elected
230 retreads
200 MPs elected for the first time
353 men
224 women
39 under 30
105 30-40 year old
175 40-50
174 50-60
84 60+ year old
According to Liberation, record number of LGBT MPs elected...that's 5: 2 FN, 1 LREM, 1 LR, 1 PS.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 14:47:40 GMT
147 MPs re-elected 230 retreads 200 MPs elected for the first time 353 men 224 women 39 under 30 105 30-40 year old 175 40-50 174 50-60 84 60+ year old According to Liberation, record number of LGBT MPs elected...that's 5: 2 FN, 1 LREM, 1 LR, 1 PS. Wouldn't have the FN as a natural home for LGBT candidates. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 19, 2017 15:49:33 GMT
The fash and the hard-Right do seem to have a surprising number of gay representatives in Europe. Fortuyn was gay, a fair few of the FN top brass these days are, and there were of course strong rumours than certain members of the FPÖ were too...
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Jun 19, 2017 16:12:43 GMT
Must be the uniforms.
The lad at the NPD stall in the main Street in Duisburg a few years ago would be more likely to persuade me than any of their shit policies.
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 19, 2017 17:05:27 GMT
The fash and the hard-Right do seem to have a surprising number of gay representatives in Europe. Fortuyn was gay, a fair few of the FN top brass these days are, and there were of course strong rumours than certain members of the FPÖ were too... Martin Webster, a leading light of the 1970's National Front, was gay, and it was certainly known. Nicky Crane of the british Movement was also gay - www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25142557 - and Patrick Harrington of Third Way fame too.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 17:13:45 GMT
The fash and the hard-Right do seem to have a surprising number of gay representatives in Europe. Fortuyn was gay, a fair few of the FN top brass these days are, and there were of course strong rumours than certain members of the FPÖ were too... Its hardly surprising that a lot of gay people fear the effects of Muslim immigration and "islamization", or that some of them join the far right to try and stop it. Fortuyn was a different kind of right wing btw (not "fash" in any way). |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 17:29:14 GMT
The fash and the hard-Right do seem to have a surprising number of gay representatives in Europe. Fortuyn was gay, a fair few of the FN top brass these days are, and there were of course strong rumours than certain members of the FPÖ were too... The Nazis also had their gay icons like Ernst Rhoem but of course when Hitler found out about his SA commander he had him shot. |
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