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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 12:58:41 GMT
Its a common form of charity fundraising particularly for men's cancer charities. Commonly called "Movember" Thank you. Never heard of it. M...November? Still don't get it? People paying you not to shave? By the day? By the inch? And Clem? You're paid to grow a moustache, the money going to men's cancer charities. It's harmless fun. (And you get to grow porno-taches, as I did when I tried Movember last year:
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 3, 2013 13:11:26 GMT
Thank you. Never heard of it. M...November? Still don't get it? People paying you not to shave? By the day? By the inch? And Clem? You're paid to grow a moustache, the money going to men's cancer charities. It's harmless fun. (And you get to grow porno-taches, as I did when I tried Movember last year: Full and complete vindication Dok...but not open to we hirsuit clannish types...Or is there a reverse mode as well?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 13:16:10 GMT
Thank you. Never heard of it. M...November? Still don't get it? People paying you not to shave? By the day? By the inch? And Clem? You're paid to grow a moustache, the money going to men's cancer charities. It's harmless fun. (And you get to grow porno-taches, as I did when I tried Movember last year: You just need some moustache wax to get the perfect right angle for the ultimate 80s pornstar look.
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Nov 3, 2013 13:53:16 GMT
The women's version is Fannuary.
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 3, 2013 16:03:25 GMT
My apologies my jumbo thumb typing is responsible for clem shaven I meant of course to type clean shaven. My Wife's father died of cancer before I had the pleasure of meeting him I felt that raising a bit of cash for Movember is something I have wanted to do for a couple of years and am glad to be doing it this year. All is now revealed. It was the juxtaposition of Movember and Clem than made me think this was some esoteric joke.
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Post by erlend on Nov 5, 2013 13:29:15 GMT
Normally just a set amount for the whole month. Been popular for about 5 years. Thanks again. What rich lives you townies have. I remember last year noticing a regular journo looking a bit odd. It turned out that James Landale was taking part. On checking his wiki article (I think), I found that there were family reasons why he supported the particular charity, prostrate cancer I think.
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 5, 2013 13:50:50 GMT
Thanks again. What rich lives you townies have. I remember last year noticing a regular journo looking a bit odd. It turned out that James Landale was taking part. On checking his wiki article (I think), I found that there were family reasons why he supported the particular charity, prostrate cancer I think. I am very much in favour of Charity and regular and substantial charitable giving. This can be done all the time or at any time and IMO is best done with anonymity. These sorts of exercise (Red Nose Day) have never sat well in my head. I do know that I am in a minority over it and I don't know why. It all seems like turning everything into entertainment and 'fun' whatever it is. It permits grandstanding and naked vanity and moral suasion on others. It is often too self-obsessed and self-serving to be considered altruistic or even very charitable. I see it as part of the mass trivialization of all aspects of life, rather like weddings being lit and organized to suit photographers and football to be timed and themed and bannered to suit TV and sponsors. What if people were to donate, in anonymity, a sum equal to their mobile phone bill? Save me a lot of money but probably increase the charitable giving of the nation by a lot. These schemes permit people to feel involved and good about themselves for little personal cash involvement and small sums coerced out of friends and family.
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Post by greenchristian on Nov 7, 2013 16:51:33 GMT
In the case of Movember, it's as much about raising awareness of prostate cancer as it is about fundraising.
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Post by neilm on Nov 9, 2013 11:25:13 GMT
So...
Many of you will know me from the erstwhile forum. However, many of you won't.
I'm Neil, I'm 31- I was born in South Wales but grew up and spent most of my life just outside Plymouth. I passed the 11+- I am fully in favour of grammar schools. I left school and went to work for the Inland Revenue (whilst keeping a part time job in a supermarket). A while later I went to the University of Essex where I read Politics and Economics. I ended up using the economics part in an unexpected job (more later) and have never really used the politics part- if truth be told, I didn't enjoy it that much.
After university, I ran a series of small pubs and restaurants, turning them around. I rejoined the Civil Service and had an interesting stint in Whitehall before returning to Plymouth to work at a much reviled part of the DWP. Around this time, I met a young lady and moved to Sheffield with her where I worked for a large high street pub company. By luck, customers of mine worked for a major UK bookmaker and our regular conversations turned into a job offer- I have longstanding personal interest in horseracing and (without wanting to sound up myself) am pretty knowledgeable about it.
Around 15 months ago I relocated to Gibraltar but in a rather horrible set of coincidences found myself redundant, homeless, jobless and with my life savings wiped out (all in a matter of days). This was a rather unpleasant time in my lfe, to say the least, and I ended up living in Milton Keynes. I was offered a job in Manila- also with a bookmaker- which is where I am now although this week I was made redundant again, almost a year to the day since the last one. This is the job in which I use all the stats stuff from uni.
I'll be honest and say I don't really want to return to the UK- things are still fairly raw for me and I like the weather overseas (except the typhoons).
I was previously a member of the Conservative Party but haven't renewed my membership- I've only voted Conservative in one of the three GE's I've been eligible for and have voted UKIP and MK in Euro elections (in 2009, I badly wanted Labour to lose their SW MEP). I was an independent parish councillor for seven years and stood for a district council seat in 2007.
Politically, I am something of a mixed bag. I became interested in politics when I was young- around five- when I asked my mother how a free newspaper could make any money for the owners. Her response was 'the government believes in a free market and allowing people to choose how to make a living.' From that moment I was hooked. I come from a largely Labour voting family in South Wales and the Miners Strike loomed large over me when I was growing up- my parents moved to England in 1985. I have a large amount of sympathy for the miners but believe they were their own worst enemy- if both sides hadn't been so dogmatic we could have had some semblance of a coal industry today, heaven knows we need it. I'm a social liberal and have a green tinge to me- the prospect of using technology to make things better excites me hugely. I have little time for the GPEW and their ilk though and am firmly on the economic right. I want to get out of the EU and I was formerly a branch vice-chair for PCS- unions are a vital part of civil society.
Otherwise I'm real ale enthusiast, I love horse racing and find betting fascinating, neither like or dislike most sports (I dislike tennis and have little time for NFL although it offers good betting opportunities), never attend the theatre on principle (except the Globe and minor amateur productions), enjoy DIY and occasional indulge in cliometric modelling.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 12:01:15 GMT
no wonder Neil you wanted out from the UK that you ended up in MK !!
seriously though have your recent experiences changed any of your political view ?
for example you say you voted for UKIP but you are happy to emigrate and work abroad something UKIP want to stop for a lot of people ?
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 9, 2013 12:11:34 GMT
Well, you have certainly had an eventful few years neilm! I suspect a bit of stability wouldn't go amiss now.....
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Post by neilm on Nov 9, 2013 13:06:28 GMT
no wonder Neil you wanted out from the UK that you ended up in MK !! seriously though have your recent experiences changed any of your political view ? for example you say you voted for UKIP but you are happy to emigrate and work abroad something UKIP want to stop for a lot of people ? MK is just...yeah, we know what we think! I'm not sure if they have changed or not- living in a country with an awful poverty rate like the Philippines makes you realise how good our infrastructure in the UK is and how government is much more efficient in the UK (Spain is massively inefficient also). I never had a problem with people specifically coming to work but perhaps I'm more relaxed about it now- I'm an economic realist and people will go where they can use their skills or believe they can work towards a better life. If anything being here has hardened me against the EU- although I genuinely appreciate visa free travel, I'm much more anti because I look around me and see a load of thriving independent economies. When I explain the EU to my Filipino colleagues (genuinely in a non partisan way, I just tell them what it is) they seem surprised that a country would sign sovereignty away although there are issues with that in what is a country with a fairly checkered history.
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Post by Tony Otim on Nov 9, 2013 14:55:00 GMT
Welcome back, Neil. Your contributions (whether or not I always agreed with them) have certainly been missed.
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Post by neilm on Nov 9, 2013 15:21:35 GMT
Well, you have certainly had an eventful few years neilm! I suspect a bit of stability wouldn't go amiss now..... Absolutely! Things have been...difficult. To say the least. Welcome back, Neil. Your contributions (whether or not I always agreed with them) have certainly been missed. Thank you
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Post by erlend on Nov 9, 2013 18:31:30 GMT
It is good to see you back on here. I hope life improves. Are you OK in Manila with the typhoon, I had the impression the worst was quite a bit away.
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Post by neilm on Nov 9, 2013 18:51:50 GMT
Thank you for your kind words chaps Yes, its OK- much better than the last one. However, the devastation is immense where it has hit. Mercifully it didn't last long- we only had serious winds (110mph) and heavy rain for around an hour in Manila yesterday. Had it lasted longer there would have been destruction on a truly immense scale. The last one was one of the scariest things I've ever experienced- I was away from Makati and genuinely thought I'd be swept away.
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 9, 2013 21:12:56 GMT
Welcome neilm. Hope to hear more of you and from you. Just to pick up on one component from your interesting and compact personal statement "...never attend the theatre on principle..."? That just cries out for some reasons please. I assume you refer to drama rather than any entertainment held in a building termed a theatre? And that you have nothing against the bricks and mortar?
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 10, 2013 11:29:20 GMT
Welcome neilm. Hope to hear more of you and from you. Just to pick up on one component from your interesting and compact personal statement "...never attend the theatre on principle..."? That just cries out for some reasons please. I assume you refer to drama rather than any entertainment held in a building termed a theatre? And that you have nothing against the bricks and mortar? As an old time drinking buddy of mine, I can assure you, Carlton, that Neil has nothing against any building that sells alcohol. And indeed would have made an excellent additional companion for us the other night Thanks AC, and I have no doubt of that. It was just such an odd remark to make as part of a short concise intro, that I do want to know the reasons.
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Post by andrewteale on Nov 10, 2013 14:35:25 GMT
Welcome back to the forum Neil. Sounds like you've had a rum few years since leaving the DWP - hope things settle down for you soon.
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Post by Khunanup on Nov 10, 2013 15:35:44 GMT
My apologies my jumbo thumb typing is responsible for clem shaven I meant of course to type clean shaven. My Wife's father died of cancer before I had the pleasure of meeting him I felt that raising a bit of cash for Movember is something I have wanted to do for a couple of years and am glad to be doing it this year. I'm partaking as well together with a Tory council colleague. He's been told by his wife that she quite likes it now he's started growing the tash, my ward colleague has urged me to shave mine off immediately!
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