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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 14, 2016 9:27:58 GMT
Lancaster - Westgate
Lab 443 41.6%
MBI 193 18.1%
UKIP 183 17.2%
Con 178 16.7%
LD 41 3.9%
Grn 26 2.4%
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Post by Old Fashioned Leftie on Oct 14, 2016 9:28:52 GMT
Westgate (Lancaster City Council) result
CLIFT Ian Withnell Labour Party 443 (41.6%)
DENNISON Roger Thomas Frances Morecambe Bay Independents 193 (18.1%)
GIBBINS Daniel Scott The Conservative Party Candidate 178 (16.7%)
MORIART Richard Laurence Green Party 26 (2.4%)
OGDEN Michelle UK Independence Party 183 (17.2&)
STANSFIELD Louise Sandra Liberal Democrats 41 (3.9%)
Thought Labour may struggle to hold on here given recent problems, but this appears a good result for them.
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 14, 2016 10:06:37 GMT
Westgate (Lancaster City Council) result CLIFT Ian Withnell Labour Party 443 (41.6%) DENNISON Roger Thomas Frances Morecambe Bay Independents 193 (18.1%) GIBBINS Daniel Scott The Conservative Party Candidate 178 (16.7%) MORIART Richard Laurence Green Party 26 (2.4%) OGDEN Michelle UK Independence Party 183 (17.2&) STANSFIELD Louise Sandra Liberal Democrats 41 (3.9%) Thought Labour may struggle to hold on here given recent problems, but this appears a good result for them. What has been going on? (assuming you are referring to local issues) |
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Post by middleenglander on Oct 14, 2016 10:07:50 GMT
Cumbria, Windermere - Liberal Democrat hold | Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2014 B | since 2013 | since 2009 | since 2005 | | Liberal Democrat | 1,009 | 52.3% | +0.7% | -9.7% | -12.6% | -2.7% | Conservative | 785 | 40.7% | +1.3% | +22.0% | +7.7% | +4.9% | Labour | 88 | 4.6% | from nowhere | -2.5% | +2.5% | -4.6% | Green | 46 | 2.4% | -0.6% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Independent |
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| Total votes | 1,928 |
| 94% | 103% | 73% | 57% |
Swing Liberal Democrat to Conservative ~¼% since 2014 by-election, ~16% since 2013, ~10% since 2009 and ~4% since 2005
Council now 36 Labour, 25 Conservative, 15 Liberal Democrat, 6 Independent, 2 West Cumbria Independent
Kent, Swanley - Conservative hold Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2013 | since 2009 | since 2005 | Conservative | 717 | 32.4% | -8.6% | -10.2% | +2.8% | UKIP | 615 | 27.8% | +7.9% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Labour | 518 | 23.4% | -8.9% | +0.8% | -10.7% | Liberal Democrat | 362 | 16.4% | from nowhere | +4.6% | +2.7% | Green |
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| BNP |
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| Total votes | 2,212 |
| 88% | 61% | 35% |
Swing Conservative to UKIP 8¼% since 2013 otherwise not meaningful
Council now 47 Conservative, 15 UKIP, 12 Labour, 7 Liberal Democrat, 1 Green, 1 Resident, 1 Independent
Lancaster, Westgate - Labour hold
| Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | | Labour | 443 | 41.6% | +9.1% | +10.1% | Morecambe Bay Independent | 193 | 18.1% | +0.4% | +0.2% | UKIP | 183 | 17.2% | -7.5% | -7.9% | Conservative | 178 | 16.7% | -8.3% | -8.7% | Liberal Democrat | 41 | 3.9% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Green | 26 | 2.4% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Total | 1,064 |
| 27% | 28% |
Swing not particularly meaningful Council now 29 Labour, 18 Conservative, 8 Green, 2 Morcambe Bay Independent, 2 Independent, 1 Vacant Lewisham, Brockley - Labour hold
| Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2014 "top" | since 2014 "average" | since 2010 "top" | sionce 2010 "average | | Labour | 1,190 | 48.0% | +9.5% | +10.6% | +12.2% | +10.7% | Green | 631 | 25.4% | -2.6% | -1.7% | -6.0% | -4.1% | Liberal Democrat | 259 | 10.4% | +5.2% | +6.2% | -7.1% | -6.6% | Conservative | 195 | 7.9% | +0.6% | +0.2% | -1.8% | -1.9% | Women's Equality | 173 | 7.0% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | UKIP | 33 | 1.3% | -3.5% | -4.1% | from nowhere | from nowhere | People before Profit |
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| Total votes | 2,481 |
| 46% | 52% | 34% | 39% |
Swing Green to Labour ~6% since 2014 and ~9% / 7½% since 2010 Council now 53 Labour, 1 Green
Lewisham, Evelyn - Labour hold | Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2014 "top" | since 2014 "average" | since 2013 B | since 2010 "top" | since 2010 "average" | | Labour | 1,028 | 53.4% | +0.0% | -1.9% | -2.4% | +4.5% | +3.9% | People before Profit | 314 | 16.3% | -1.7% | -3.2% | -6.8% | +8.5% | +7.6% | Conservative | 183 | 9.5% | from nowhere | from nowhere | +2.7% | -3.1% | -3.2% | Independent | 173 | 9.0% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Green | 119 | 6.2% | -8.9% | -6.2% | from nowhere | -3.1% | -1.5% | Liberal Democrat | 107 | 5.6% | -3.4% | -2.1% | -1.9% | -10.6% | -10.0% | TUSC |
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| -5.1% | -5.7% | Total votes | 1,924 |
| 53% | 61% | 110% | 34% | 37% |
Swing People before Profit to Labour ~¾% since 214 and ~2½% since 2013 by-election otherwise not meaningful Council now 53 Labour, 1 Green
North Kesteven, Cliff Villages - Lincolnshire Independent hold | Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | since 2011 "top" | since 2011 "average" | | Lincolnshire Independent | 721 | 63.1% | -1.0% | +1.7% | +3.3% | +4.5% | Conservative | 372 | 32.6% | -3.3% | -6.0% | -1.3% | -1.1% | Liberal Democrat | 49 | 4.3% | +4.3% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | UKIP |
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| -6.4% | -7.7% | Total votes | 1,142 |
| 35% | 38% | 44% | 53% |
Swing Conservative to Lincolnshire Independent ~1% / 4% since 2015 and ~2% / 3% since 2011
Council now 28 Conservative, 9 Lincolnshire Independent, 5 Local Independent, 1 Independent
Poole, Broadstone - Liberal Democrat gain from Conservative
| Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | | since 2011 * "top" | since 2011 * "average" | | Liberal Democrat | 2,184 | 69.3% | +24.0% | +28.2% |
| +23.2% | +25.3% | Conservative | 733 | 23.3% | -13.2% | -15.4% |
| -12.7% | -12.7% | UKIP | 132 | 4.2% | -7.5% | -9.2% |
| -4.8% | -5.8% | Green | 57 | 1.8% | -4.8% | -5.0% |
| -7.2% | -8.2% | Labour | 45 | 1.4% | from nowhere | from nowhere |
| from nowhere | from nowhere | Total votes | 3,151 |
| 40% | 49% |
| 57% | 63% |
* minor boundary changes in 2015
Swing Conservative to Liberal Democrat 18½% / 22% since 2015 and 18% / 19% since 2011
Council now 30 Conservative, 7 Liberal Democrat, 3 Poole People, 1 UKIP, 1 Independent
Sevenoaks, Swanley Christchurch & Swanley Village - Conservative hold
| Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | since 2011 "top" | since 2011 "average" | | Conservative | 311 | 34.6% | -24.1% | -24.0% | -16.2% | -16.1% | Labour | 274 | 30.5% | +2.3% | +3.4% | -5.7% | -5.3% | Liberal Democrat | 183 | 20.4% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | UKIP | 131 | 14.6% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Green |
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| 29% | 32% | 45% | 46% |
Swing Conservative to Labour ~13½% since 2015 and ~11% since 2011
Council now 48 Conservative, 2 Liberal Democrat, 2 UKIP, 1 Labour, 1 Independent
South Lakeland, Windermere Bowness North - Liberal Democrat hold
| Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 | since 2013 B | since 2011 | since 2008 | | Liberal Democrat | 441 | 60.1% | +11.1% | -0.8% | -4.9% | -14.2% | Conservative | 256 | 34.9% | -4.1% | -0.2% | +4.9% | +9.1% | Green | 37 | 5.0% | -0.9% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Labour |
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| Total votes | 734 |
| 62% | 104% | 79% | 83% |
Swing Conservative to Liberal Democrat ~7½% since 2015, small swing to Conservative since 2013 by-election but Liberal Democrat to Conservative ~5% since 2011 and 11½% since 2008
Council now 32 Liberal Democrat, 16 Conservative, 2 Labour, 1 Independent
Tandridge, Limpsfield - Resident Group gain from Conservative
| Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 | since 2014 | since 2011 | since 2010 | | Resident Group | 713 | 57.4% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Conservative | 472 | 38.0% | -32.1% | -20.4% | -28.3% | -25.4% | Liberal Democrat | 33 | 2.7% | -9.5% | -12.1% | -23.0% | -27.9% | Labour | 25 | 2.0% | -5.0% | -4.0% | from nowhere | from nowhere | UKIP |
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| -10.7% | -20.8% | -8.1% | -6.0% | Total votes | 1,243 |
| 56% | 94% | 78% | 57% |
Swing not meaningful Council now 32 Conservative, 6 Liberal Democrat, 2 Independent, 2 Resident
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Post by listener on Oct 14, 2016 10:15:20 GMT
The town council by-election in Swanley White Oak was very tight - with no UKIP candidate
Con 319, Lib Dem 318, Lab 304
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Oct 14, 2016 13:24:21 GMT
I believe a rape is a group of hundreds, rather like a wapentake - but a rape is southern, particularly Sussex. I shall no doubt be corrected by Adam! Don't bet on it. East Anglian Lefty may be sharper. But as far as I remember the Sussex rape and Kentish lathe are, like the wapentake, alternative names for the hundred, not groups of them. Wapentakes are in Danelaw shires: Hundreds in West Saxon/Mercian ones. Kent and Sussex were apparently just a bit localist and stuck to their own divisions. That's an I understand it. Wapentake is from Old Norse - literally a taking-up of weapons, sometimes explained as people collecting their weapons after the conclusion of an assembly, though this may be a folk etymology. I can't recall what the roots of rape and lathe are, or if there's even any consensus. A hundred is variously explained as an area occupied by 100 families (unlikely, Anglo-Saxon society not being that clannish) or as an area containing 100 hides (a measurement of land, though probably of takes levied on it rather than extent) or as a cognate to the Danish sub-unit known as a herred (I think härad in Swedish, perhaps?) |
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Post by listener on Oct 14, 2016 13:39:15 GMT
Guildford Mayoral Referendum
A leader - 20,639
An elected mayor - 4,948
Rejected ballot papers - 22
Total ballot papers issued - 25,609
Electorate - 102,966
Turnout - 24.9%
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Post by timrollpickering on Oct 14, 2016 13:57:57 GMT
Since only about 20% of the total Guildford electorate have voted for a leader, will the town now be subjected to calls for repeat referendums until it gives the answer certain people want?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 14:42:55 GMT
Amusingly, the vote for a Mayor was lower than the number of signatures received to prompt the referendum.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 14, 2016 14:44:18 GMT
Amusingly, the vote for a Mayor was lower than the number of signatures received to prompt the referendum. Not a surprise given the story about how the signatures for the petition were obtained. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Oct 14, 2016 23:27:50 GMT
"Pwyll Prince of Dyved was the lord of the seven cantrevs of Dyved" First line of the Mabinogion. NO! First line is 'Pwyll Pendefig Dyfed a oedd yn arglwydd ar seith cantref Dyfed'  Nice to see the original Welsh, which I wouldn't have known. Lovely sounding stuff even in my very bad attempt to pronounce it out loud. However, in the true spirit of pedantry for which we are renowned on this board, I can't forbear to point out that the name "The Mabinogion" was coined by 18th century English translators due to a misunderstanding, and popularised by Lady Caroline Guest, when she made the translation which I quoted. So strictly speaking, "The Mabinogion" is the translation into English and the first line is as I gave, whereas presumably what you have quoted is the first line of either Llyfr Gwyn Rhydderch, or Llyfr Goch Hergest. |
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Post by MeirionGwril on Oct 16, 2016 9:31:58 GMT
NO! First line is 'Pwyll Pendefig Dyfed a oedd yn arglwydd ar seith cantref Dyfed' Nice to see the original Welsh, which I wouldn't have known. Lovely sounding stuff even in my very bad attempt to pronounce it out loud. However, in the true spirit of pedantry for which we are renowned on this board, I can't forbear to point out that the name "The Mabinogion" was coined by 18th century English translators due to a misunderstanding, and popularised by Lady Caroline Guest, when she made the translation which I quoted. So strictly speaking, "The Mabinogion" is the translation into English and the first line is as I gave, whereas presumably what you have quoted is the first line of either Llyfr Gwyn Rhydderch, or Llyfr Goch Hergest. You are of course quite right!  (You could also argue about the spelling, as the version I gave is considerably (but not totally) modernised) !! |
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