timmullen1
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Post by timmullen1 on Oct 30, 2020 16:31:37 GMT
Somebody needs to undertake a little research  It seems you may need to head off to a place called Fairy Lodge....
The connection between the Pine and the Coffin families began with the marriage of Edward Pine and Dorothy Coffin at Alwington Church in 1671.Their grandson,Rev John Pine inherited the estate and by Act of Parliament in 1797 assumed the name and arms of Coffin. source
There's a daily telgraph obituary about lt col john pine coffin, died 2006, behind paywall, the likely returning officer I think as he was high sherrif of Devon source
So they weren't brothers but due to the uniqueness of the name will likely be related.
At a guess my Peter Pine-Coffin is related to Colonel John as he appears to have fought in the Boer War, and written his memoirs, which fits in with my late next door neighbour knowing Peter as he wrote an unpublished history of the Staffordshire Yeomanry in South Africa during the Boer and Zulu wars. |
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Post by yellowperil on Oct 30, 2020 17:20:03 GMT
Somebody needs to undertake a little research It seems you may need to head off to a place called Fairy Lodge....
The connection between the Pine and the Coffin families began with the marriage of Edward Pine and Dorothy Coffin at Alwington Church in 1671.Their grandson,Rev John Pine inherited the estate and by Act of Parliament in 1797 assumed the name and arms of Coffin. source
There's a daily telgraph obituary about lt col john pine coffin, died 2006, behind paywall, the likely returning officer I think as he was high sherrif of Devon source
So they weren't brothers but due to the uniqueness of the name will likely be related. Actually I think they probably were brothers as I read it, given not only the same surname but the same house of birth. It is just that the 6 Pine-Coffin siblings are remarkably widely spaced, from Claude (1895-1978 ),through Richard ("wooden box") (1908-1974) to JohnTrenchard (1921-2006), who is your High Sheriff- the reference to the 6 siblings actually names John as the youngest. I couldn't find anything about the mother- I did just wonder if they were half-brothers which would make it more plausible. |
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 30, 2020 17:24:55 GMT
Somebody needs to undertake a little research It seems you may need to head off to a place called Fairy Lodge....
The connection between the Pine and the Coffin families began with the marriage of Edward Pine and Dorothy Coffin at Alwington Church in 1671.Their grandson,Rev John Pine inherited the estate and by Act of Parliament in 1797 assumed the name and arms of Coffin. source
There's a daily telgraph obituary about lt col john pine coffin, died 2006, behind paywall, the likely returning officer I think as he was high sherrif of Devon source
So they weren't brothers but due to the uniqueness of the name will likely be related.
The Sherborne Mercury lists John Pine Coffin as a person who has deputed someone to hold a gamekeeper's licence. 6th November 1797.
Kentish Gazette reports Cornet John Pine Coffin promoted to Lieutenant, 4th Regiment of Dragoons. 6th March 1798.
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Post by johnloony on Oct 31, 2020 19:39:47 GMT
...the 6 Pine-Coffin siblings are remarkably widely spaced, from Claude ( 1895-1978 ),through Richard ("wooden box") (1908-1974) to JohnTrenchard ( 1921-2006),.... My great-great-grandparents had 13 children, born between 1847 and 1872 (25 years). If the abovementioned family had "only" 6 siblings, spread out over 26 years, it is possible that it was only one wife but that the births of the children were punctuated by multiple intervening miscarriages. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Oct 31, 2020 20:58:00 GMT
...the 6 Pine-Coffin siblings are remarkably widely spaced, from Claude ( 1895-1978 ),through Richard ("wooden box") (1908-1974) to JohnTrenchard ( 1921-2006),.... My great-great-grandparents had 13 children, born between 1847 and 1872 (25 years). If the abovementioned family had "only" 6 siblings, spread out over 26 years, it is possible that it was only one wife but that the births of the children were punctuated by multiple intervening miscarriages. Or STDs. |
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Harry Hayfield
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Dec 26, 2020 15:48:09 GMT
There aren't any general elections being replayed over Christmas, so here's the general election anniversaries of 2021:
2001: 20th anniversary
1966: 55th anniversary
It would also be the 5th anniversary of the EU referendum (2016) and 10th anniversary of the AV referendum and Welsh devolution referendum.
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Dec 26, 2020 17:32:22 GMT
There aren't any general elections being replayed over Christmas, so here's the general election anniversaries of 2021: 2001: 20th anniversary 1966: 55th anniversary It would also be the 5th anniversary of the EU referendum (2016) and 10th anniversary of the AV referendum and Welsh devolution referendum. expect 2001 3rd or 31st May |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2021 20:21:21 GMT
There aren't any general elections being replayed over Christmas, so here's the general election anniversaries of 2021: 2001: 20th anniversary 1966: 55th anniversary It would also be the 5th anniversary of the EU referendum (2016) and 10th anniversary of the AV referendum and Welsh devolution referendum. Blimey, that runner lad in the No to AV advert will be about 20 now. |
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Post by richard on Jan 3, 2021 0:58:19 GMT
When will they show 1987 again. This the only election i dont have. The morning after coverage that is
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nodealbrexiteer
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Jan 3, 2021 21:28:33 GMT
Article above on the computer forecasts done for The Guardian on election night 1959-see in particular the 3rd page of the article(showing as 197) As Harry said before the link didn't work so here's the key bit(time forecast made, number of results declared,number of forecasts seats for Con/Lab/Lib/Other): 10.40pm-6-309/313/6/2 10.45-8-342/280/6/2 11.00-17-359/265/6/0 11.50-63-364/260/6/0 12.30am-150-366/257/7/0 1.30am-291-367/255/8/0 2.45am-363-368/254/8/0 actual-365*/258/6/1*-the asterisked note from the article says note that the Independent who had been a Conservative was included in the prediction as a Conservative |
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Post by neilm on Jan 4, 2021 11:19:42 GMT
The independent in question was David Robertson, who had been the MP for Stretham from an unopposed 1939 by-election until 1950, when he swapped seats to Caithness and Sutherland (the previous Conservative had left under a cloud having failed to be reselected following an association merger and his ill thought out promise to resign an fight a by-election when Japan was defeated). Robertson fought the 1959 election as an independent having fallen out with the government over economic development in the Highlands, but without an official Conservative/Unionist opponent. The seat recorded the tightest ever three way marginal in 1945, with the Conservative winning a majority of 6 and the Liberal (Archibald Sinclair) in third place and 61 votes behind.
Robertson took on an extra constituency in the war as the sitting MP had been interned but gave it up due to expense.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2021 20:11:59 GMT
Looking at the October '74 BBC intro, I was reminded of the build-up to the battle scenes in 'Zulu'! Very dramatic.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 5, 2021 20:15:41 GMT
The opening of Syd Dale's 'Road Walk' was used as the theme for 'News Review' on BBC Two in the late 1970s.
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Post by connor on Jan 8, 2021 21:20:09 GMT
It's very dramatic and also poignant in a way as it was the end of the Wilson/Heath era of politics and the beginning of Thatcher's era also.
Thing is, I can watch the election coverage on youtube now as most are on there to watch. It's really quite the timewarp to see what the mentality of the nation was and how it came to today's political minefield.
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Post by peterl on Feb 10, 2021 3:47:32 GMT
If you go to the BBC Politics page and scroll down to the entry for Feb 9th at 12:13, you can find a brief video looking back at the 1936 Ross and Cromarty By Election that may be of interest.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Feb 10, 2021 9:59:31 GMT
That's part of a short series of filler films about notable byelections. Others cover Pontefract in 1872 (the first election by secret ballot), Oxford 1938 (the 'appeasement' election), Gatton 1803 (a notorious rotten borough in which a contest was forced), and Orpington 1962 (famous Liberal win).
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Post by peterl on Feb 10, 2021 17:19:13 GMT
That's part of a short series of filler films about notable byelections. Others cover Pontefract in 1872 (the first election by secret ballot), Oxford 1938 (the 'appeasement' election), Gatton 1803 (a notorious rotten borough in which a contest was forced), and Orpington 1962 (famous Liberal win). Any idea where these can be found? |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Feb 10, 2021 17:34:57 GMT
That's part of a short series of filler films about notable byelections. Others cover Pontefract in 1872 (the first election by secret ballot), Oxford 1938 (the 'appeasement' election), Gatton 1803 (a notorious rotten borough in which a contest was forced), and Orpington 1962 (famous Liberal win). Any idea where these can be found? And does it include Dunny-on-the-Wold? |
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Post by hullenedge on Apr 24, 2021 8:49:54 GMT
RTE's coverage of 2019 (part one):-
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nodealbrexiteer
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Aug 13, 2021 17:02:36 GMT
Article above on the computer forecasts done for The Guardian on election night 1959-see in particular the 3rd page of the article(showing as 197) As Harry said before the link didn't work so here's the key bit(time forecast made, number of results declared,number of forecasts seats for Con/Lab/Lib/Other): 10.40pm-6-309/313/6/2 10.45-8-342/280/6/2 11.00-17-359/265/6/0 11.50-63-364/260/6/0 12.30am-150-366/257/7/0 1.30am-291-367/255/8/0 2.45am-363-368/254/8/0 actual-365*/258/6/1*-the asterisked note from the article says note that the Independent who had been a Conservative was included in the prediction as a Conservative Bumped up as a kind soul has supplied information on intermediate forecasts for The Guardian at the Ferranti centre Pegasus computer: Time/number of results:Con/Lab/Lib totals: 11.05pm/17:359/265/6 11.15pm/22:351/271/6 11.50pm/63:364/260/6 12.04am/94:362/261/7 12.20am/135:360/263/7 1.05am/228:369/254/7 1.30am/291:367/255/8 1.41am/309:365/257/8 2.10am/338:368/254/8 |
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