Khunanup
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Post by Khunanup on Sept 8, 2016 22:25:56 GMT
Not sure if this is official but if so, Sheffield Mosborough is a Liberal Democrat gain. Britain Elects tweets that result... If so, I'm absolutely happily speechless! |
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Post by Robert Waller on Sept 8, 2016 22:26:15 GMT
Parkside (Barrow-in-Furness) result:
LAB: 52.1% (-3.0)
CON: 42.3% (-2.6)
UKIP: 5.6% (+5.6)
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Post by marksenior on Sept 8, 2016 22:26:21 GMT
Mansfield figures
Lab 278
MIF 148
UKIP 105
Con 41
Ind 36
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 8, 2016 22:29:56 GMT
MAIDSTONE Shepway South
John Barned (UKIP) 432
Bob Hinder (The Conservative Party Candidate) 215
Dan Wilkinson (Labour Party) 183
Jon Hicks (Independent) 88
Milden Choongo (Liberal Democrat) 31
If I read this right:
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Post by cuthbertbede on Sept 8, 2016 22:33:42 GMT
Not sure if this is official but if so, Sheffield Mosborough is a Liberal Democrat gain. Britain Elects tweets that result... If so, I'm absolutely happily speechless! Well, Nick thinks so… I had seen one or two calls for action on Facebook of the sort that only tend to pop up for seats we'd expect to do well in, but… |
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Post by andrewteale on Sept 8, 2016 22:39:01 GMT
It's refreshing to have all four results in before 11:30pm on election night. Good work by the counting teams.
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Post by AdminSTB on Sept 8, 2016 22:44:09 GMT
What's with all the handwritten results? It's like watching the 1955 election special.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Sept 8, 2016 22:45:47 GMT
Well, Nick thinks so… I had seen one or two calls for action on Facebook of the sort that only tend to pop up for seats we'd expect to do well in, but… Newest returning councillor. Gail was a councillor in Brightside, then in Norton, then in Mosborough, and congrats for getting back in. For a long time Mosborough has been Labour only by default - if anybody had the energy to work it they would have a good chance to get elected, and before the 2004 review it was twice the size of other wards and was particularly difficult to work. There's been a large rump LibDem and Conservative vote in the ex-Derbyshire south-east for years. |
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 8, 2016 22:46:33 GMT
"...because the by-election will take place on September 8th during the Labour leadership campaign when all the forces of the ruling class, including the Blairites inside the Labour Party, are trying to remove Jeremy Corbyn, and because many Labour members and supporters will identify Labour with its leader rather than its anti-Corbyn candidate, on this occasion TUSC has decided not to stand. We do not want to divide or distract from our role in the mass campaign to get Jeremy re-elected on an anti-austerity ticket, i.e. through the petitioning and stalls we have been doing almost daily in the centre of Sheffield." That will be of great comfort to the Labour candidate and agent I'm sure. And of no help whatsover as it turned out. How surprising. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 23:15:25 GMT
"...because the by-election will take place on September 8th during the Labour leadership campaign when all the forces of the ruling class, including the Blairites inside the Labour Party, are trying to remove Jeremy Corbyn, and because many Labour members and supporters will identify Labour with its leader rather than its anti-Corbyn candidate, on this occasion TUSC has decided not to stand. We do not want to divide or distract from our role in the mass campaign to get Jeremy re-elected on an anti-austerity ticket, i.e. through the petitioning and stalls we have been doing almost daily in the centre of Sheffield." Successful. |
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Post by iain on Sept 8, 2016 23:20:46 GMT
Very pleased about Mosborough, couldn't have been won by a nicer lady.
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Sept 8, 2016 23:23:27 GMT
Mosborough is mostly made up of the sort of fairly demographically average (kind of) and (absolutely) humdrum new-ish suburbia that tends to matter quite a lot in General Elections so that's... shit. Obviously a lot of the result is from by-election consolidation-around-principle-opposition but were there local factors?
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Post by andrewteale on Sept 8, 2016 23:51:51 GMT
Mosborough is mostly made up of the sort of fairly demographically average (kind of) and (absolutely) humdrum new-ish suburbia that tends to matter quite a lot in General Elections so that's... shit. Obviously a lot of the result is from by-election consolidation-around-principle-opposition but were there local factors? The Lib Dem candidate was the only one to live in the ward. The Labour candidate was from Stocksbridge where she is a town councillor - that rang alarm bells as soon as I saw the SOPN. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Sept 8, 2016 23:52:51 GMT
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Khunanup
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Post by Khunanup on Sept 9, 2016 0:50:05 GMT
Mosborough is mostly made up of the sort of fairly demographically average (kind of) and (absolutely) humdrum new-ish suburbia that tends to matter quite a lot in General Elections so that's... shit. Obviously a lot of the result is from by-election consolidation-around-principle-opposition but were there local factors? The Lib Dem candidate was the only one to live in the ward. The Labour candidate was from Stocksbridge where she is a town councillor - that rang alarm bells as soon as I saw the SOPN. Wow! I mean wow! Stocksbridge, that's as far away as you can possibly be and still be in Sheffield! This result and Shepway South were pretty diabolical for Labour this week. |
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Post by eamonn on Sept 9, 2016 6:08:14 GMT
Big Lib Dem campaign in Mosborough-about 20 councillors and activists outside the count at 11pm to greet the winner.Gail Smith is a former Mosborough ward councillor. UKIP put a leaflet out and did some work on the day. Tories and Greens just put up candidates.
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Post by YL on Sept 9, 2016 6:41:45 GMT
Mosborough is mostly made up of the sort of fairly demographically average (kind of) and (absolutely) humdrum new-ish suburbia that tends to matter quite a lot in General Elections so that's... shit. Obviously a lot of the result is from by-election consolidation-around-principle-opposition but were there local factors? The Lib Dem candidate was the only one to live in the ward. The Labour candidate was from Stocksbridge where she is a town councillor - that rang alarm bells as soon as I saw the SOPN. Quite. I didn't actually think the Lib Dems might win, though; I presume they pretty much gave up on the ward after 2010, and then produced a big campaign for this by-election. (I don't live anywhere near Mosborough, and have been there about once in my life. But I'm quite a bit closer than Stocksbridge is.) |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Sept 9, 2016 6:58:58 GMT
Mosborough is mostly made up of the sort of fairly demographically average (kind of) and (absolutely) humdrum new-ish suburbia that tends to matter quite a lot in General Elections so that's... shit. Obviously a lot of the result is from by-election consolidation-around-principle-opposition but were there local factors? That's quite interesting. Someone pointed out on LD Voice that the vote share here at the May locals was bang on the LD national vote share. So all we have to do is replicate this swing across the nation, then repeat it at Parliamentary level, and government beckons. Should be a piece of cake. Then again, perhaps not. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Sept 9, 2016 7:25:23 GMT
Mosborough is mostly made up of the sort of fairly demographically average (kind of) and (absolutely) humdrum new-ish suburbia that tends to matter quite a lot in General Elections so that's... shit. Obviously a lot of the result is from by-election consolidation-around-principle-opposition but were there local factors? The Lib Dem candidate was the only one to live in the ward. The Labour candidate was from Stocksbridge where she is a town councillor - that rang alarm bells as soon as I saw the SOPN. Also, the LibDem candidate used to be the local councillor and has spent the last few years since losing her seat campaiging to get it back, so has kept up visibility. When your sitting councillor dies it's difficult for your candidate to have previously been campaigning locally. Also, the ex-Derbyshire south-east tends to get a bit sniffy with Labour sending outsiders in. When Dot Walton was deselected after being the local councillor since before the 1968 annexation she moved to the LibDems and took quite a bit of support with her. At her funeral it was noticable that the Mosborough Labour members were more chatty with the LibDems than with the City Labour people. Stocksbridge (and Chapeltown/HighGreen) also has a bit of a feeling that Sheffield runs them from afar, so it surprises me that they picked a candidate from there. |
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Post by Pimpernal on Sept 9, 2016 8:06:23 GMT
; I presume they pretty much gave up on the ward after 2010, and then produced a big campaign for this by-election. That was pretty much my advice to LDs locally after 2010 - don't put up paper candidates, don't stand unless you have a really good chance of winning - basically vanish until prospects get better then relaunch with a buzz. A dribble of dreadful results and wipeouts is far worse than having no candidate and no losses... imho |
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