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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 7, 2017 19:03:14 GMT
A remarkable achievement by Macron. Within a year create a new party, fund it, find the foot soldiers and win the Palace. Now to use that momentum for the Legislature elections. Brexshit negotiations have just got tougher. Do you realise what a childish dickhead you sound like every time you write that? And I'm sure the gloating of you and your party colleagues about how a result like this is actually going to work against our national interest is really going to impress the voters in places like Portsmouth |
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Post by mboy on May 7, 2017 19:13:08 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 7, 2017 19:14:13 GMT
That was a very Presidential speech by the President-elect just now.
I like "Je veux adresser un salut républicain à mon adversaire, madame Le Pen". Must use that one myself.
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Post by Khunanup on May 7, 2017 19:20:38 GMT
First Department in. Alpes-de-Haute-Provence goes to Macron with 58.46%
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Post by yellowperil on May 7, 2017 19:23:35 GMT
Pretty much every media outlet which has pushed the "she could win!" line against all reasonable evidence - which is quite a few outlets, including most of the British ones - has shat the bed with this election. I mean I know why the Daily Mail might want to talk her up, but the FT and Guardian have been doing it too! But Trump won, and Leave won, and this is the just same right?
And of course we had no idea how French voters would react to a FN candidate making it to a run off.Yes we did because we saw what happened to her dad. Or did you think that because MLP was marginally less loathsome than her father all would be forgiven. Well yes she has done rather better than her father but still thoroughly thrashed and there were lots of French people holding their noses and reluctantly voting for Macron because it had to be done |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on May 7, 2017 19:23:44 GMT
35% is an exceptionally poor result for Le Pen when compared to expectations. It will likely weaken her position within the FN quite a bit. Shush, Richard the official Received Wisdom Line is that FN can't be ignored, highest ever vote for a far right candidate etc etc. The fact that she has had the floor wiped with her, and that Fillon's attempt to mimic her also failed, that she was in fact beaten neither by someone tacking to the right nor playing the populist left card, but by a centrist whose main plank was that, whatever his faults, maybe he has some grip on the real world, is not to be mentioned. It must also be noted that he has just been elected on arguably the most liberal economic platform since probably Giscard. If we discard Sarko as being an obvious liar. He's probably offering a more Anglo-Saxon economic programme than every right-wing president. |
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Post by cogload on May 7, 2017 19:24:25 GMT
A remarkable achievement by Macron. Within a year create a new party, fund it, find the foot soldiers and win the Palace. Now to use that momentum for the Legislature elections. Brexshit negotiations have just got tougher. Do you realise what a childish dickhead you sound like every time you write that? And I'm sure the gloating of you and your party colleagues about how a result like this is actually going to work against our national interest is really going to impress the voters in places like Portsmouth Do you realise I dont give a fuck what you think? Pity that the national interest (sic) is going to see a couple of thousand highly skilled technical jobs disappear in an area which can ill afford to lose them. And that is the start. I aint gloatin' sunshine. I is speaking de truth. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 19:24:48 GMT
Le Pen lost 7% of her 1st round vote and the 2nd.  |
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Post by iain on May 7, 2017 19:26:53 GMT
But Trump won, and Leave won, and this is the just same right?
And of course we had no idea how French voters would react to a FN candidate making it to a run off.Yes we did because we saw what happened to her dad. Or did you think that because MLP was marginally less loathsome than her father all would be forgiven. Well yes she has done rather better than her father but still thoroughly thrashed and there were lots of French people holding their noses and reluctantly voting for Macron because it had to be done Heard of a thing called sarcasm? |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on May 7, 2017 19:31:20 GMT
Segolene Royal really is extremely rude. She keeps having to be told off for interrupting other guests on France 2.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 7, 2017 19:32:40 GMT
Do you realise what a childish dickhead you sound like every time you write that? And I'm sure the gloating of you and your party colleagues about how a result like this is actually going to work against our national interest is really going to impress the voters in places like Portsmouth Do you realise I dont give a fuck what you think? Of course I do - but then I'm just saying what everyone else is thinking but is too polite to say. Anyway it's my second point that should concern you more but I'm sure you don't get that either, cos you're in that bubble that Dan Hodges was talking about www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4481076/DAN-HODGES-Euro-boor-poster-boy-defeat.html#ixzz4gLmzMJWx (and yes I obviously realise you don't give a fuck what Dan Hodges says either but you should cos he's right ) |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 19:34:17 GMT
First Department in. Alpes-de-Haute-Provence goes to Macron with 58.46% Pedantry alert: that's the first from mainland France, but we already have four results from overseas departments: Guadeloupe Macron 75.13 Le Pen 24.87 Martinique Macron 77.55 Le Pen 22.45 La Réunion Macron 60.26 Le Pen 39.74 Guyane Macron 64.89 Le Pen 35.11 Mayotte still tbc. |
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Post by The Bishop on May 7, 2017 19:34:37 GMT
That poll doesn't really fit the "ALL THE YOUNG FRENCHIES ARE GOING FASH" thesis we have heard rather a lot of recently........
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Post by cogload on May 7, 2017 19:36:05 GMT
Do you realise I dont give a fuck what you think? Of course I do - but then I'm just saying what everyone else is thinking but is too polite to say. Anyway it's my second point that should concern you more but I'm sure you don't get that either, cos you're in that bubble that Dan Hodges was talking about www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4481076/DAN-HODGES-Euro-boor-poster-boy-defeat.html#ixzz4gLmzMJWx (and yes I obviously realise you don't give a fuck what Dan Hodges says either but you should cos he's right ) If I was looking for a popularity contest this is the last place I will come. Bubble? I live in Portsmouth North. It voted to leave. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 19:37:53 GMT
That poll doesn't really fit the "ALL THE YOUNG FRENCHIES ARE GOING FASH" thesis we have heard rather a lot of recently........ No, that was always a myth. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 7, 2017 19:38:52 GMT
That poll doesn't really fit the "ALL THE YOUNG FRENCHIES ARE GOING FASH" thesis we have heard rather a lot of recently........ I don't think anyone suggested 'all' were but that they are nothing like as averse to the populist right as their counterparts in the UK appear to be and indeed far more likely to vote for the FN than the oldest age groups. You also have to consider that the proportion of the electorate who are proper French is likely to be considerably lower amongst the younger age groups than in the oldest |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on May 7, 2017 19:41:39 GMT
Now I know why Macron is married to a woman in her sixties. It's because he's Francois Bayrou.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 7, 2017 19:43:02 GMT
Vosges 55% for Macron. Voted 29/20 for Le Pen in the first round so looks like she may not carry any departments
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