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Post by minionofmidas on Apr 3, 2021 4:48:16 GMT
Weird. Never heard of that as a regional thing. Always took it to be a matter of personal preference (and partly of living conditions). Now you've got me thinking of the origins of Rhein-Main resident people I know in whose houses you take your shoes off.
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Post by The Bishop on Apr 3, 2021 10:30:15 GMT
Was told you should always take your shoes off when visiting somewhere as a kid, wonder if this is partly a generational thing?
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Post by European Lefty on Apr 3, 2021 10:50:22 GMT
Was told you should always take your shoes off when visiting somewhere as a kid, wonder if this is partly a generational thing? I'm trying to remember what I do - its been such a long time since I went into another person's house! I always take them off if it's family, with friends I think it depends on how long I'm there and with people I don't know all that well I think I usually ask
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Post by john07 on Apr 4, 2021 0:04:45 GMT
Birmingham city region or Greater Birmingham is the only sensible short reference to the city as a whole. I guess Birmingham & the Black Country also works, despite those in Wolverhampton who claim not to be part of it. The modern use of Black Country to encompass the whole of the 4 met boroughs to the west of Birmingham is reasonable enough. Of course Coventry is an entirely separate city, and it was odd to ever include it, which has led to the nomenclature problems. Note also that Coventry is doing well, as a reinvented manufacturing centre, whereas Wolverhampton’s pretentions to being an independent city have got it exactly nowhere. It needs to establish a role within the city of which it is part, which it has largely failed to do. Coventry was only included in West Midlands because had it remained in Warwickshire, the City would have lost control of Education and Social Services to the County Council, as a non-Metropolitan District Council. Leicester City Council lost those powers to Leicestershire County Council at the same time. It was a kind of Faustian plot for Coventry to go into West Midlands and it had repercussions. In my spell on Coventry City Council (1980-83), much of the time was taken up with disputes with West Midland County Council. This was particularly bad in 1982-83 when I was Deputy Chair of Transportation and Highways in Coventry and had many meetings to resolve arguments. Most of these were about grass cutting! I have previously posted an account of this. I do think there is a coherent West Midlands entity, but Coventry never really fitted. I can see the arguements about Wolverhampton but really it does fit into the West Midlands.
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Post by minionofmidas on Apr 4, 2021 4:47:40 GMT
Birmingham city region or Greater Birmingham is the only sensible short reference to the city as a whole. I guess Birmingham & the Black Country also works, despite those in Wolverhampton who claim not to be part of it. The modern use of Black Country to encompass the whole of the 4 met boroughs to the west of Birmingham is reasonable enough. Of course Coventry is an entirely separate city, and it was odd to ever include it, which has led to the nomenclature problems. Note also that Coventry is doing well, as a reinvented manufacturing centre, whereas Wolverhampton’s pretentions to being an independent city have got it exactly nowhere. It needs to establish a role within the city of which it is part, which it has largely failed to do. Coventry was only included in West Midlands because had it remained in Warwickshire, the City would have lost control of Education and Social Services to the County Council, as a non-Metropolitan District Council. Leicester City Council lost those powers to Leicestershire County Council at the same time. It was a kind of Faustian plot for Coventry to go into West Midlands and it had repercussions. time to rename Southport "Coventry-on-Sea"? Same story there.
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Post by andrewteale on Apr 4, 2021 8:27:57 GMT
A quick series of three maps I've recently drawn for LEAP that didn't make it into this thread at the time. First, Dacorum 2019. C 31 (-15) LD 19 (+16) Ind 1 (+1) Lab 0 (-2). Changes based on 2015: C gain from Lab Hemel Hempstead Town (1) Ind gain from C Nash Mills LD gain from C Adeyfield West (1) Aldbury and Wigginton Berkhamsted Castle (2) Berkhamsted East (2) Berkhamsted West (2) Boxmoor (3) Northchurch Tring Central (1) Tring West and Rural (2) LD gain from Lab Highfield (1) No split wards in 2019.
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Post by Merseymike on Apr 4, 2021 8:28:16 GMT
Coventry was only included in West Midlands because had it remained in Warwickshire, the City would have lost control of Education and Social Services to the County Council, as a non-Metropolitan District Council. Leicester City Council lost those powers to Leicestershire County Council at the same time. It was a kind of Faustian plot for Coventry to go into West Midlands and it had repercussions. time to rename Southport "Coventry-on-Sea"? Same story there. Only Southport isn't large enough to manage services itself - this is even more so now with regard to adult social care. They could have gone into Lancashire and been a district. It's then likely that Formby would have done the same but as part of West Lancs. Crosby, Maghull and Bootle would have gone to Liverpool.
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Post by andrewteale on Apr 4, 2021 8:33:51 GMT
Lancaster 2019. Lab 21 (-8) Morecambe Bay Ind 14 (+12) C 12 (-7) Grn 10 (+1) LD 3 (+3) Ind 0 (-1). Changes based on 2015: Grn gain from Lab Scotforth West (2) Lab gain from C Carnforth and Millhead (1) Lab gain from Grn University and Scotforth Rural (1) Lab gain from Ind Halton-with-Aughton LD gain from C Kellet Lower Lune Valley (1) Silverdale Morecambe Bay Ind gain from C Bare (1) Heysham South (1) Torrisholme (1) Morecambe Bay Ind gain from Lab Heysham Central (1) Heysham North (2) Poulton (2) Torrisholme (1) Westgate (3) Split wards in 2019 were: Bare: 2MBI/1C Carnforth and Millhead: 1Lab/2C Heysham South: 2Lab/1MBI Lower Lune Valley: LD/C
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Post by andrewteale on Apr 4, 2021 8:47:11 GMT
Braintree 2019. C 34 (-10) Grn 6 (+5) Halstead Residents Assoc 4 (+2) Ind 3 (+3) Lab 2. Changes based on 2015: C gain from Lab Bocking South (1) Grn gain from C Kelvedon and Feering (2) Silver End and Cressing (1) Witham North (2) Halstead Residents Assoc gain from C Halstead St Andrew's (1) Halstead Trinity (1) Ind gain from C Coggeshall (2) Hedingham (1) Lab gain from C Bocking North (1) Split wards in 2019 were: Hedingham: Ind/C
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Post by Andrew_S on Apr 5, 2021 20:13:27 GMT
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Post by Khunanup on Apr 5, 2021 23:42:06 GMT
That's sub-Saharan African only, which is interesting in itself as it's just about the most visible of visible minorities in mast of these countries (and in places like Luxembourg there's likely to be a large economic element to the discrimination too). No surprise that the bottom four countries are ones where sub-Saharan Africans have been within society to one extent or another for hundreds of years, therefore discrimination based on curiousity or blunt rejection isn't likely to happen very often.
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Post by Andrew_S on Apr 5, 2021 23:45:24 GMT
That's sub-Saharan African only, which is interesting in itself as it's just about the most visible of visible minorities in mast of these countries (and in places like Luxembourg there's likely to be a large economic element to the discrimination too). No surprise that the bottom four countries are ones where sub-Saharan Africans have been within society to one extent or another for hundreds of years, therefore discrimination based on curiousity or blunt rejection isn't likely to happen very often. The UK is also bottom of the list if you click on Asian (or South Asian).
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Post by Khunanup on Apr 5, 2021 23:50:09 GMT
That's sub-Saharan African only, which is interesting in itself as it's just about the most visible of visible minorities in mast of these countries (and in places like Luxembourg there's likely to be a large economic element to the discrimination too). No surprise that the bottom four countries are ones where sub-Saharan Africans have been within society to one extent or another for hundreds of years, therefore discrimination based on curiousity or blunt rejection isn't likely to happen very often. The UK is also bottom of the list if you click on Asian (or South Asian). Indeed. Only three countries on that one!
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Apr 15, 2021 21:46:09 GMT
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Post by andrewteale on Apr 15, 2021 22:00:23 GMT
Bassetlaw 2019. Lab 37 (+4) C 5 (-7) Ind 5 (+2) LD 1 (+1). Changes based on 2015: Ind gain from C Clayworth Everton Sutton Lab gain from C Blyth East Retford North (1) Ranskill Worksop South (1) Lab gain from Ind Sturton LD gain from Lab East Retford West (1) East Markham was uncontested. Split wards in 2019 were: East Retford East: 2Lab/1C East Retford West: Lab/LD
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Post by andrewteale on Apr 16, 2021 21:39:44 GMT
York 2019. LD 21 (+9) Lab 17 (+2) Grn 4 Ind 3 (+1) C 2 (-12). Changes based on 2015: Ind gain from C Bishopthorpe Copmanthorpe Lab gain from C Acomb (1) Lab gain from Ind Micklegate (1) LD gain from C Haxby and Wigginton (2) Rawcliffe and Clifton Without (3) Rural West York (2) Strensall (1) Wheldrake Split wards in 2019 were: Guildhall: 1Grn/2Lab Micklegate: 2Lab/1Grn Osbaldwick and Derwent: Ind/C Strensall: LD/C East Retford East: 2Lab/1C East Retford West: Lab/LD [/quote]
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Post by hullenedge on Apr 21, 2021 9:58:21 GMT
Northern Powerhouse Steed swings 1992 (with base 1979 notionals):-
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Post by andrewteale on Apr 22, 2021 18:51:09 GMT
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Apr 22, 2021 18:54:07 GMT
Just came on to this thread to post that
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Post by finsobruce on Apr 22, 2021 18:57:08 GMT
The Bury Owl looks more than a little alarmed to be so close to the Bolton Cat.
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