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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2016 16:32:11 GMT
Due to take place on 2nd July.
I'm aware there's an existing thread named "Australian General Election" but that was really created for the 2013 election. Opinion polls are very close between the Liberal/National Coalition and Labor. Labor had enjoyed a solid lead until Malcolm Turnbull replaced Tony Abbott in September last year. Turnbull also leads Labor leader Bill Shorten as "preferred prime minister."
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 6, 2016 10:07:26 GMT
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Post by Khunanup on Jun 6, 2016 11:37:04 GMT
I put Green in the poll then got Green on the compass. Not surprising really with the ALP being effectively a Charles Clarke wet dream and the Liberals being probably the third most misnamed party with 'Liberal' in the name after the Liberal Democratic Parties of Japan and Russia.
Least worst option and all that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 11:50:58 GMT
Structurally the ALP is a fairly grotesque formation that encompasses pretty much all of the worst tendencies of labour/socialist parties in democracies worldwide - bureaucratic, factionalist, excessively personality driven, etc. However it does have some admirable individuals and a largely good record in government, so I would vote for it.
My instinct is that the coalition will outperform the polls overall, though not in certain areas like WA where the state and federal governments are very unpopular.
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Post by mondialito on Jun 6, 2016 11:53:32 GMT
I got Green on the Compass and on isidewith.com. They would get my 1st Preference with Labor 2nd. If the election was under FPTP, I would vote ALP.
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Post by greenchristian on Jun 6, 2016 17:06:27 GMT
Unsurprisingly, Green on both the compass and the poll on this thread.
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Post by iain on Jun 8, 2016 10:26:27 GMT
I have voted 'other'. I would, with reservations, go for the Nick Xenophon Team.
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 8, 2016 12:25:26 GMT
Came out Green but not much over Labor
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Post by bolbridge on Jun 8, 2016 12:58:05 GMT
57% Green, 55% Lab, 51%LNP
I would probably vote LNP because I like Turnbull but would be tempted to first pref the Greens.
I would have voted for Rudd and Gillard over Howard and Abbott
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 8, 2016 20:52:56 GMT
Structurally the ALP is a fairly grotesque formation that encompasses pretty much all of the worst tendencies of labour/socialist parties in democracies worldwide - bureaucratic, factionalist, excessively personality driven, etc. However it does have some admirable individuals and a largely good record in government, so I would vote for it. My instinct is that the coalition will outperform the polls overall, though not in certain areas like WA where the state and federal governments are very unpopular. If you're looking for a party that encompasses absolutely all of the worst tendencies of socialist parties and then adds the worst of some others, the Walloon Parti Socialiste is the paradigm. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 9, 2016 9:51:31 GMT
Structurally the ALP is a fairly grotesque formation that encompasses pretty much all of the worst tendencies of labour/socialist parties in democracies worldwide - bureaucratic, factionalist, excessively personality driven, etc. However it does have some admirable individuals and a largely good record in government, so I would vote for it. My instinct is that the coalition will outperform the polls overall, though not in certain areas like WA where the state and federal governments are very unpopular. If you're looking for a party that encompasses absolutely all of the worst tendencies of socialist parties and then adds the worst of some others, the Walloon Parti Socialiste is the paradigm. Perhaps because they are effectively in permanent power? |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 9, 2016 16:51:00 GMT
If you're looking for a party that encompasses absolutely all of the worst tendencies of socialist parties and then adds the worst of some others, the Walloon Parti Socialiste is the paradigm. Perhaps because they are effectively in permanent power? It's a weird one. Even in their moments out of power, they've managed to be utterly vile. They manage to combine nationalism and socialism and...that's rarely good. Especially when you add the stunningly dreadful corruption. |
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Post by markgoodair on Jun 12, 2016 20:43:18 GMT
Turnbull has instructed that the Liberal's give their preferences to the Greens last.
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Post by timrollpickering on Jun 12, 2016 21:15:19 GMT
In exchange Labour HTVs will preference the Libs over the Nats in O'Connor, Durack and Murray. The first two are in Western Australia and Nats MPs there would basically be federal indies. The third is a pretty fierce battle in Victoria over a retiring MP's seat.
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Jun 12, 2016 21:18:52 GMT
Turnbull has instructed that the Liberal's give their preferences to the Greens last. In which case, why not just leave the Green boxes on the ballot papers blank? |
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Post by timrollpickering on Jun 12, 2016 21:24:54 GMT
There may be some seats with even more unpalatable candidates - when One Nation were strong, parties that didn't put them last on the HTVs were heavily criticised for it.
You can leave the final box blank but it's a recipe for spoilt votes, especially as the Senate ballot paper comes with new instructions that allow some optional preferencing and confusing voters further is rarely an election winning strategy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2016 21:34:49 GMT
Green 63%, ALP 49%, L/NP 47%
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Post by markgoodair on Jun 12, 2016 22:08:34 GMT
Turnbull has instructed that the Liberal's give their preferences to the Greens last. In which case, why not just leave the Green boxes on the ballot papers blank? Because that would make it an invalid ballot paper. In the elections to the House of Representatives you must cast a vote for all the candidates in preference order. |
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Post by timrollpickering on Jun 12, 2016 22:16:03 GMT
You're allowed to leave a final candidate's box blank after preferencing all others, but that's a savings measure when the intent is clear and not a recommended voting strategy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 11:42:24 GMT
In exchange Labour HTVs will preference the Libs over the Nats in O'Connor, Durack and Murray. The first two are in Western Australia and Nats MPs there would basically be federal indies. The third is a pretty fierce battle in Victoria over a retiring MP's seat. The one-term Nats MP for O'Connor Tony Crook initially declared he was a crossbencher, but joined the Nationals group later on in the parliament. It would seem to depend somewhat on the individual. |
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