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Post by BossMan on Nov 3, 2020 12:30:31 GMT
So your best case scenario suggests there is no possibility of a relaxation of the latest hard lockdown before next April. And you regard that as a positive?! People I daily see have had enough. Before the previous lockdown the shops were closing up before being required to as there were so few customers. This time the shops are crowded with customers desperate to make purchases before the criminal lockdown. And none to my knowledge are worried about Covid. They may wear the evil muzzle because they feel obliged to but more are hanging them below their noses than I previously noticed. No halfwit. If you can vaccinate a percentage of the population you can reduce the spread of the disease thereby allowing you to ease restrictions on others. As for your second paragraph, bullshit. As far as insults go "halfwit" is very tame, but regardless I'm going to once again insist that we all steer away from hurling abuse at one another. In fact whilst I'm here, there appears to be quite a substantial amount of topic drift going on, so I'm going to ask that we take all the COVID discussion to a different thread. Thank you.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Nov 3, 2020 18:28:32 GMT
The image of Comical Ali comes to mind - the Saddam loyalist proudly claiming that the US would never reach the capital as the tanks rolled in. I have a vision of MerseyMike telling us there is no vaccine as people queue up to receive it. Rubbish. It will be 12-years away after the economy is wrecked and the death toll of suicide has passed 100K. A prediction which may be filed away for consideration in a few months time.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Nov 3, 2020 18:30:59 GMT
Government has the responsibility to plan equally for. 1. A high quality vaccine. 2. A mediocre vaccine. 3. No vaccine. Perhaps a 'Virtual Vaccine' for a 'Virtual Pandemic' that doesn't actually kill very many people but cunningly facilitates the death of millions by causing a complete breakdown of civil society and the NHS stopping virtually all other treatments. It hasn't.
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Post by tonygreaves on Nov 3, 2020 23:44:41 GMT
(1) It has killed many people. (Not sure of the definition of "very many").
(2) Civil society has been severely disrupted but not completely broken down.
(3) The NHS has not stopped all other treatments, (virtually or otherwise).
I say this as a sceptic about the current national lockdown.
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Post by independentukip on Nov 4, 2020 0:38:23 GMT
(1) It has killed many people. (Not sure of the definition of "very many"). (2) Civil society has been severely disrupted but not completely broken down. (3) The NHS has not stopped all other treatments, (virtually or otherwise). I say this as a sceptic about the current national lockdown. 1. Agree, and will continue to do so. 2. Agree, the complete breakdown hasn't happened yet. The collapse of the financial system and thus also food distribution means that is inevitable in due course. 3. Agree, but we can read all day long on Twitter (presumably also on Facebook) about cancelled and denied appointments. Those people are now dying in large numbers and will continue to needlessly die in large numbers for years. Lockdown sceptical on this forum is a current Lib Dem Lord and a former Lib Dem MP plus several but by no means all other Lib Dem forum members. If the Lib Dems were opposed to Lockdowns even I might consider voting for them but the leadership and all the current MPs seem committed to the criminally insane approach of mboy. Sad, brutal, criminal and insane.
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Post by london(ex)tory on Nov 5, 2020 23:04:32 GMT
BossMan please can you add me to the Reform Party group. Might have to change my username at some point as well Many thanks.
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Post by BossMan on Nov 5, 2020 23:38:51 GMT
BossMan please can you add me to the Reform Party group. Might have to change my username at some point as well Many thanks. To "londonreformer", perhaps?
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Post by Jack on Dec 31, 2020 13:37:41 GMT
mboy to "Lib Dem leaning".
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Dec 31, 2020 13:42:01 GMT
mboy to "Lib Dem leaning". Presumably for them voting for a harder Brexit than the ERG?
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Post by mrpastelito on Dec 31, 2020 14:37:23 GMT
mboy to "Lib Dem leaning".
Took him several years longer than anticipated, but at long last.
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Post by tonygreaves on Dec 31, 2020 20:51:58 GMT
I was delighted to vote against this lousy deal last night together with 80 colleagues and some others. Unlike some we do not fall into the fallacy that there are only ever two choices!
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Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on Dec 31, 2020 20:55:43 GMT
I was delighted to vote against this lousy deal last night together with 80 colleagues and some others. Unlike some we do not fall into the fallacy that there are only ever two choices! So sorry your leader wasn't elected prime minister in December 2019 as your literature promised, we all truly missed the enlightenment that would have brought us over the last year.
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Post by Jack on Dec 31, 2020 21:12:37 GMT
I was delighted to vote against this lousy deal last night together with 80 colleagues and some others. Unlike some we do not fall into the fallacy that there are only ever two choices! We're leaving the transition period at 11pm, so there actually were only two choices.
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Post by Foggy on Dec 31, 2020 21:14:16 GMT
I was delighted to vote against this lousy deal last night together with 80 colleagues and some others. Unlike some we do not fall into the fallacy that there are only ever two choices! So sorry your leader wasn't elected prime minister in December 2019 as your literature promised, we all truly missed the enlightenment that would have brought us over the last year. I agree with this, except in a non-sarcastic way, which is why I voted for Wera Hobhouse. Swinson said during the election debates that trans women are women. Ed Davey has yet to contradict that. Perhaps mboy's decision to alter his designation on here slightly has more to do with that issue than Brexit?
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Dec 31, 2020 22:55:21 GMT
I was delighted to vote against this lousy deal last night together with 80 colleagues and some others. Unlike some we do not fall into the fallacy that there are only ever two choices! There were only two choices. We leave in four minutes. Do you really think a new deal could have been constructed within 24 hours? Dios Mío!🤦🏻♂️
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Post by john07 on Dec 31, 2020 23:20:30 GMT
I was delighted to vote against this lousy deal last night together with 80 colleagues and some others. Unlike some we do not fall into the fallacy that there are only ever two choices! There were only two choices. We leave in four minutes. Do you really think a new deal could have been constructed within 24 hours? Dios Mío!🤦🏻♂️ Agreed it’s not as if they have had four years to deal with it. Anybody thinks they have been pissing about throughout this period?
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Post by london(ex)tory on Jan 1, 2021 0:35:25 GMT
I was delighted to vote against this lousy deal last night together with 80 colleagues and some others. Unlike some we do not fall into the fallacy that there are only ever two choices! So what do you think would have happened if the deal hadn’t passed?
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jan 1, 2021 1:45:58 GMT
I was delighted to vote against this lousy deal last night together with 80 colleagues and some others. Unlike some we do not fall into the fallacy that there are only ever two choices! So what do you think would have happened if the deal hadn’t passed? If there had been a real chance of the deal not passing, the LDs might well have voted differently. The whole Brexit farce of the last 4 years has been characterised by politicians, on all sides of the Brexit debate, wanting particular things to happen but not to be seen voting for those things to happen.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 1, 2021 22:59:46 GMT
So sorry your leader wasn't elected prime minister in December 2019 as your literature promised, we all truly missed the enlightenment that would have brought us over the last year. I agree with this, except in a non-sarcastic way, which is why I voted for Wera Hobhouse. Swinson said during the election debates that trans women are women. Ed Davey has yet to contradict that. Perhaps mboy's decision to alter his designation on here slightly has more to do with that issue than Brexit? Isn't "voting for Wera Hobhouse" now code for setting fire to 5G masts?
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Post by Foggy on Jan 1, 2021 23:59:21 GMT
I agree with this, except in a non-sarcastic way, which is why I voted for Wera Hobhouse. Swinson said during the election debates that trans women are women. Ed Davey has yet to contradict that. Perhaps mboy's decision to alter his designation on here slightly has more to do with that issue than Brexit? Isn't "voting for Wera Hobhouse" now code for setting fire to 5G masts? I must've missed that memo!
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