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Post by Foggy on Nov 28, 2016 19:55:10 GMT
We're talking about a 72-year-old man here, who expected by now to be either safely in post or else quietly retired. He did not think he'd still have to be in campaign mode into the cold Austrian late autumn. It is only natural if he seems worn out.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2016 20:16:57 GMT
Vienna will host a "Fuck Hofer!" rally the day before the election:  |
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Post by Richard Allen on Nov 28, 2016 20:49:36 GMT
I'm sure this demo will be nice and tasteful and will go down well with undecided voters.
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 28, 2016 22:20:08 GMT
Vienna will host a "Fuck Hofer!" rally the day before the election: Splendid news. Should be a significant help to his vote. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 29, 2016 23:44:45 GMT
Journalist: " Do You think, that FPÖ will copy Trump?"
Politologist: " Very funny! If so, than Trump has copied FPÖ, which is used to attract the WorkingClass with xenophobia for already 24 years."
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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 30, 2016 14:11:58 GMT
Let us not be sure, that the Trump-victory will have helped Hofer, perhaps it's the contrary:  |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Dec 1, 2016 17:35:23 GMT
The final television-debate is going to take place today at 20.15 MET. LiveStreaming is available at www.tvthek.orf.at. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Dec 1, 2016 21:12:04 GMT
Contrary to the last debate v.d.Bellen appeared this time as relaxed, whereas Hofer was quite upset, the permanent attacks in the left media might have cost him nerves.
Several times Hofer revealed, that his opponent had had very different opinions once ("You are lying") and quoted - for the first time - an exPolicePresident (from SPÖ), suspecting in a book, that v.d.Bellen had been spying for the East. Don't know, whether that will have had an impact on the audience.
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Post by mboy on Dec 3, 2016 14:20:52 GMT
What time the results tomorrow?
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Post by Foggy on Dec 3, 2016 20:54:13 GMT
What time the results tomorrow? It's usually quite early GMT for Austrian elections. I think in some states polls close as early as 4pm our time. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Dec 3, 2016 22:27:15 GMT
What time the results tomorrow? It's usually quite early GMT for Austrian elections. I think in some states polls close as early as 4pm our time. In Vorarlberg already at 11GMT. The last ones (Vienna and other big towns) close at 16GMT/17MET, when ~40% has been counted. Official results are released under www.wahl16.bmi.gv.at. Note: This time the HomeMinistry won't send data to the media before all precincts are closed, so SORA will present first estimates on public television (www.orf.at) at ~16.10GMT. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Dec 3, 2016 22:38:53 GMT
I haven't found any polls in the final 2 weeks.
OGM didn't publish their's (v.d.Bellen at 51%, but they also didn't weight it).
I personally remain - as in June - at 52% for v.d.Bellen, but the TrumpVictory makes this turn more difficult to predict. (And i assume, that the initial date in October would have resulted in ~52% for Hofer!)
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Post by Georg Ebner on Dec 3, 2016 22:44:49 GMT
Vienna will host a "Fuck Hofer!" rally the day before the election: That demonstration was a failure for the organisators (and thus also Hofer): Less than 100, guarded by more than 100 policemen. More spectacular was Mr.Farage, who stated on FoxNews, that a president Hofer would hold immediately a referendum on Öxit. FPÖ denied. |
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Post by aross on Dec 4, 2016 6:46:04 GMT
It should perhaps be pointed out that said organisers were the Austrian affiliate of the SWP with a similar reputation (if so far sans Comrade Delta).
On a different note, Hofer accused Van der Bellen of being a paid-up Stasi agent in the last debate on Thursday. Classy.
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 4, 2016 12:29:21 GMT
It should perhaps be pointed out that said organisers were the Austrian affiliate of the SWP with a similar reputation (if so far sans Comrade Delta). On a different note, Hofer accused Van der Bellen of being a paid-up Stasi agent in the last debate on Thursday. Classy. Never mind 'classy'; was it true? |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 4, 2016 12:59:39 GMT
It should perhaps be pointed out that said organisers were the Austrian affiliate of the SWP with a similar reputation (if so far sans Comrade Delta). On a different note, Hofer accused Van der Bellen of being a paid-up Stasi agent in the last debate on Thursday. Classy. Never mind 'classy'; was it true? Long rumoured but never really proven. |
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Post by aross on Dec 4, 2016 13:55:49 GMT
It should perhaps be pointed out that said organisers were the Austrian affiliate of the SWP with a similar reputation (if so far sans Comrade Delta). On a different note, Hofer accused Van der Bellen of being a paid-up Stasi agent in the last debate on Thursday. Classy. Never mind 'classy'; was it true? No and it's a proper throwback too but I suppose it still occasionally comes up on the Austrian right. For the record a group of FPÖ MPs asked a parliamentary question in 2001 which forced the then government (the noted far-left Haider-Schüssel coalition) to conduct an investigation, it cleared him of all suspicion. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Dec 4, 2016 14:50:47 GMT
Never mind 'classy'; was it true? No and it's a proper throwback too but I suppose it still occasionally comes up on the Austrian right. For the record a group of FPÖ MPs asked a parliamentary question in 2001 which forced the then government (the noted far-left Haider-Schüssel coalition) to conduct an investigation, it cleared him of all suspicion. The HomeSecretary said, that there were no proves found. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Dec 4, 2016 14:52:49 GMT
High turnout reported for Vienna (good news for v.d.Bellen), especially in proletarian Donaustadt (good news for Hofer).
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 4, 2016 15:09:30 GMT
Never mind 'classy'; was it true? Long rumoured but never really proven. Do we suspect he has dressed, suppressed or erased the evidence? |
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