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Post by islington on May 6, 2016 17:02:30 GMT
Is there a rule, or even a policy, against three-area seats in Scotland?
I ask this because AJ Thomson suggested a few in his posts just now; and I also proposed one (Stirling). And there's at least one now - Dumfriesshire Clydesdale Tweeddale contains parts of D&G, Borders and S Lanark. So is it a no-no?
I've been thinking more about proposals for E Duns and Stirling, which were as follows.
- EAST DUNBARTONSHIRE – The whole district except for a ward split in either ward 4 or ward 9 (one or the other, not both). The aim of the split should be to take out say 4000 voters whilst doing as little damage as possible to the town of Kirkintilloch, which I hope it will be possible to keep wholly within the seat. 78127 (est)
- STIRLING – The whole district plus the said 4000 voters from E Duns and ward 1 of N Lanarks. I’m particularly unhappy about this seat, which is a complete mash-up (and if the triborough rule applies to Scottish districts, I’ve just broken it). 77036 (est)
Looking more closely at the E Duns ward split, it definitely ought to be ward 4, removing the Milton/Lennoxtown/Campsie area (basically, everything north of the River Kelvin) because this ties in better with Kilsyth and leaves Kirkintilloch untouched (assuming it takes enough voters - it needs to take at least 3620 to get E Duns in quota, and a maximum of 5021 to avoid overloading Stirling).
An alternative, to get rid of the 3-area seat (because this is my only one) would be to leave Stirling with Kilsyth ward as a seat; keep E Duns ward 4 wholly in the E Duns seat and instead remove the necessary voters by putting the Lenzie area (or most of it) of ward 8 into the Coatbridge seat. But this would be a very tricky bit of ward-splitting; it would need to take at least 3620 votes (as before) and no more than 4244. This is not much margin of error and would leave both seats near the ceiling. Assuming you transferred exactly 4000 the numbers of the affected seats would be - - STIRLING - 73036 - EAST DUNBARTONSHIRE - 78127 - COATBRIDGE - 78263
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Post by ajthomson on May 6, 2016 17:59:35 GMT
The BCS made it a policy in the zombie review not to create seats comprising parts of more than two local authorities (which almost certainly explains why Ayr was split between two seats). But they then broke their own rule in Perth & Kinross/Dundee/Angus. They had created two seats called "Dundee East and the Glens" that combined Dundee with Angus (from memory, eastern Dundee, Sidlaw/Monifieth, Carnoustie and Kirriemuir) and "Dundee West and Gowrie" that combined Dundee with Perth & Kinross (western Dundee, Carse of Gowrie and Strathmore) which were slammed by pretty much everyone at the public inquiry. The Commission responded by putting forward a counter-proposal: a Dundee-only seat (Dundee city, minus North East and The Ferry), and a 3-council seat that included wards from Dundee (North East, The Ferry), Angus (Sidlaw/Monifieth, Carnoustie, Kirriemuir) and Perth & Kinross (Carse of Gowrie, Strathmore). So basically they ended up breaking their own policy.
I don't know whether the Commission are going to persist with the policy this time. But given that they ended up breaking it last time, there's clearly a precedent for them to lay it to one side should they wish to. I imagine that their line will be that they will only create 3-council seats if an alternative 2-council seat is condemned by all parties, and that the 3-council seat is demonstrably better in terms of local/social ties.
For what it's worth, I would justify two of the three 3-council seats in my own plan on historical grounds: Kilmacolm, Johnstone and Barrhead (Renfrewshire West) were all part of the pre-1974 county of Renfrewshire, and Stirling, Denny and Kilsyth (Stirling and Strathcarron) were all burghs in the pre-1974 county of Stirlingshire. The third 3-council seat (Galloway and South Ayrshire) is sort of similar: Carrick and Cumnock/Doon Valley were all part of the pre-1974 county of Ayrshire, and Carrick, Cumnock and the Doon Valley have been in the same seat since at least 1868; thus, if a Galloway seat were to extend northwards, it would be appropriate to include both Carrick and Cumnock therein.
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Post by ajthomson on May 6, 2016 18:06:37 GMT
- EAST DUNBARTONSHIRE – The whole district except for a ward split in either ward 4 or ward 9 (one or the other, not both). The aim of the split should be to take out say 4000 voters whilst doing as little damage as possible to the town of Kirkintilloch, which I hope it will be possible to keep wholly within the seat. 78127 (est)
- STIRLING – The whole district plus the said 4000 voters from E Duns and ward 1 of N Lanarks. I’m particularly unhappy about this seat, which is a complete mash-up (and if the triborough rule applies to Scottish districts, I’ve just broken it). 77036 (est)
Looking more closely at the E Duns ward split, it definitely ought to be ward 4, removing the Milton/Lennoxtown/Campsie area (basically, everything north of the River Kelvin) because this ties in better with Kilsyth and leaves Kirkintilloch untouched (assuming it takes enough voters - it needs to take at least 3620 to get E Duns in quota, and a maximum of 5021 to avoid overloading Stirling).
An alternative, to get rid of the 3-area seat (because this is my only one) would be to leave Stirling with Kilsyth ward as a seat; keep E Duns ward 4 wholly in the E Duns seat and instead remove the necessary voters by putting the Lenzie area (or most of it) of ward 8 into the Coatbridge seat. But this would be a very tricky bit of ward-splitting; it would need to take at least 3620 votes (as before) and no more than 4244. This is not much margin of error and would leave both seats near the ceiling. Assuming you transferred exactly 4000 the numbers of the affected seats would be - - STIRLING - 73036 - EAST DUNBARTONSHIRE - 78127 - COATBRIDGE - 78263
Some local knowledge here (I grew up in East Dunbartonshire): a) If a 3-council seat is allowed, moving Lennoxtown and Milton of Campsie out of Dunbartonshire East works well. They are already linked with Kilsyth for parliamentary purposes, and the road from Kilsyth to Lennoxtown then continues on to Strathblane, which is in Stirling council. Lennoxtown, Milton of Campsie and Kilsyth are all historically in Stirlingshire as well, for what that's worth (the Kelvin was the county boundary, I think). b) Part of East Dunbartonshire wards 7 and 8 was historically in Lanarkshire: Lenzie south of the railway line, and the village of Waterside. There used to be a South Lenzie/Waterside council ward in the days of single-seat elections, and prior to 2005 it was always in a Lanarkshire seat, latterly Coatbridge & Chryston. Its electorate was about 3800, so it could be removed to form the Coatbridge seat you suggest.
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Post by islington on May 7, 2016 12:48:05 GMT
Many thanks to AJ Thomson for his encouraging reply.
However, I continued to fiddle with boundaries in this area in quest of some better arrangement and I can now report that I've come up with a package of proposals for this central Scotland area that eliminates the three-area seat I proposed earlier (meaning that all my Scottish seats are now one- or two-area) and also removes the ward splits in E Duns, N Lanarks and S Lanarks.
So am I happy?
Well, I ought to be, but ... Well, let's just say it's not pretty.
STIRLING AND MILNGAVIE - All of Stirling plus ward 1 of E Duns. Others have also suggested this. I don't really like it because Milngavie doesn't seem an especially good fit with Stirling but it's better than the following seat. 73985
EAST DUNBARTONSHIRE - The rest of E Duns. This is a terrible arrangement because the two Bearsden wards are virtually isolated from the rest of the seat. But it's hard to avoid, and (in my defence) others have suggested it too. 71846
COATBRIDGE - N Lanarks wards 5, 6, 9, 10, 13, 14. This is the same as I suggested before. I'm pretty happy with this seat.
AIRDRIE AND CUMBERNAULD - N Lanarks wards 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8. The main problem with this is the omission of ward 11 (Airdrie S), which means that the seat doesn't include the whole town of Airdrie. But it contains most of the town including the centre; while much of Airdrie S ward comprises separate places like Chapelhall. 74961
HAMILTON AND MOTHERWELL - Now I imagine that this coupling will be unpopular but it's the key to my whole scheme. N Lanarks wards 16, 17, 18 (this is the Motherwell bit); S Lanarks wards 17, 18, 19 (Hamilton). 77115
MID LANARKSHIRE - This could be even less popular than the previous seat. It's basically the bits of central Lanarkshire that are left over once you've put Hamilton and Motherwell together. N Lanarks wards 11, 12, 15, 19, 20; S Lanarks ward 20. 'Wishaw' might be an alternative name. 78126
RUTHERGLEN - S Lanarks wards 10-16. Now, I'm perversely proud of this seat, but this isn't because it's pretty. The inclusion of ward 10 (E Kilbride E) weighs heavily against it, although I'd point out that the parts of E Kilbride that the ward contains are marginal housing estates, peripheral to the town itself. But having given up hope of a combination of whole wards within quota in this area, I'm delighted to have found one; albeit only barely squeaking in below the ceiling. 78503
EAST KILBRIDE - S Lanarks wards 4-9. The exclusion of ward 10 not only separates the eastern suburbs of E Kilbride from the rest of the town; it also obliges us to penetrate deep into rural Clydesdale to keep the numbers up. 74291
LANARK AND ANNAN - D&G wards 8, 11, 12, 13; S Lanarks wards 1, 2, 3. Or 'Clydesdale and Annandale' if you prefer. 77415
DUMFRIES AND GALLOWAY - The rest of D&G (the same as I had before). 73875
And while I'm on the subject of avoiding ward splits, I should mention that I found this was more difficult than I had imagined in the case of Aberdeen City. But the following arrangement does the trick. It's not pretty, but in its defence it keeps the heart of the city (Old and New) together in one seat.
ABERDEEN NORTH - Wards 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10. 74059
ABERDEEN SOUTH - The rest of the city. 76176
That's it. Thoughts welcome.
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Post by greenhert on May 7, 2016 21:02:43 GMT
Boundary Assistant has updated for Scotland wards, finally. One issue I have found in the Highlands area are the sizes of rural Scottish wards; the 13,000 square kilometre limit means Caithness, Sutherland & Ross (the present Caithness, Sutherland & Easter Ross is not large enough in area to be exempt from electoral quotas, but adding nearby Wester Ross ward would make it too large by area) has to be drawn carefully.
Here is a sample constituency that is between 12,000 and 13,000 square kilometres in area, making it exempt from standard electorate limits under the new rules:
Caithness, Sutherland & Ross. The Highlands wards of Thurso, Wick, Landward Caithness, North, West & Central Sutherland, East Sutherland & Edderton (East Sutherland part only*), and Wester Ross, Strathpeffer & Localsh. Electorate: 39,000 approx.
*If it included Edderton, it would just be over the 13,000 sq km maximum constituency size.
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Post by krollo on May 7, 2016 21:18:03 GMT
The combination of the size limit, the population limit, and the massive Scottish wards making the Highlands next to impossible to do anything remotely nice with. Without ward splits there only seems to be one viable constituency for the far North, going from Dunnet Head to Loch Ness, which forces some other fairly dire constituencies over a wide area. Highlights from my first go (no splits) include Inverness and Spey Valley, Banff and Elgin, and some other monstrosities (Dunfermline East and Kirkcaldy Central being one of the worst knock-on effects). Might as well do it at Toby Carvery it's getting cut up so badly.
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Post by ajthomson on May 8, 2016 8:02:46 GMT
I think we can take it as read that there will be plenty of ward splits. There were in the zombie review (30 in the revised proposals), and it's the only sensible way that Highland seats can be created that fulfil both electorate and area criteria. The Commission's concern last time was more with minimizing the number of council areas involved in any group of seats, and even then there was one such group that covered five council areas (Stirling, P&K, Dundee, Angus, Aberdeenshire). In at least three places (Cambuslang East and West, and Tweeddale East) there were ward splits that, on paper, weren't even necessary. So I'd see avoiding ward splits as desirable, but by no means essential.
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Post by islington on May 8, 2016 11:15:46 GMT
I think we can take it as read that there will be plenty of ward splits. There were in the zombie review (30 in the revised proposals), and it's the only sensible way that Highland seats can be created that fulfil both electorate and area criteria. The Commission's concern last time was more with minimizing the number of council areas involved in any group of seats, and even then there was one such group that covered five council areas (Stirling, P&K, Dundee, Angus, Aberdeenshire). In at least three places (Cambuslang East and West, and Tweeddale East) there were ward splits that, on paper, weren't even necessary. So I'd see avoiding ward splits as desirable, but by no means essential. Well, I'm sure AJ Thomson is right about the likely policy of BCS so avoiding ward splits will be less of an issue north of the border than it is in England. Nevertheless, as much for my own amusement as anything, I've been playing with Boundary Assistant to try to find non-split solutions in Scotland. I've now got a plan that includes only (a) the two splits in Glasgow, which I don't think can be avoided without breaking the city boundary at least twice; and (b) the double split in Highland (as per the zombie review) which almost cancels out in terms of voter numbers but is needed to balance out the areas of the northen Highland seat as against Inverness & Skye. I've even managed to come up with a no-split scheme for awarding six seats to Edinburgh / W Lothian, but pretty it isn't. Happy to post it if anyone is interested. (Actually, I'll probably get round to posting it even if no one is interested.) Also, finding a non-split solution in the Renfrewshire area involved wrecking Piperdave's very nice plans for Ayrshire. Sorry about that. On another point, is it really correct that that BCS is bothered about the number of council areas grouped together for the purpose of apportionment? Why would that matter? I can see why you wouldn't want any individual seats to cover too many council areas, but I don't see the problem about the groupings. But for what it's worth, I've ending up with groupings as follows. Note that one of them includes six council areas, so my regrets to the BCS. Aberdeen City = 150235 = 2.01 = 2 seats Aberdeenshire, Angus, Dundee = 382204 = 5.11 = 5 seats Argyll & Bute, Highland, Moray, W Duns = 374143 = 5.00 = 5 seats Clacks, Falkirk = 152407 = 2.04 = 2 seats D&G, N & S Lanarks = 606971 = 8.12 = 8 seats E, N, S Ayrshire, Refrewshire, E Renfrewshire, Inverclyde = 525854 = 7.03 = 7 seats E Duns, Stirling = 145831 = 1.95 = 2 seats E Lothian = 76153 = 1.02 = 1 seat Edinburgh, W Lothian = 456507 = 6.11 = 6 seats Fife, Perth = 375442 = 5.02 = 5 seats Glasgow = 446353 = 5.97 = 6 seats Midlothian, Borders = 150636 = 2.01 = 2 seats
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Post by greatkingrat on May 8, 2016 11:46:39 GMT
You can do Highland without any split wards if you split Inverness
Inverness North & The North (77938 - 9205km^2) - Wards 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 10 15 17 Inverness South & Skye (76334 - 12347km^2) - Wards 6 11 12 13 14 16 18 19 20 Argyll & Bute (73889) - Ward 22 + all of Argyll & Bute council
Badenoch & Strathspey goes in with Moray, which in turn has to donate Keith to Aberdeenshire to keep under quota.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2016 12:46:39 GMT
"Inverness North and the North" is the best constituency name that'll never happen
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Post by krollo on May 8, 2016 13:31:02 GMT
Kintyre and Antrim North?
Or 'Irish Sea Banks CC'
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Post by No Offence Alan on May 8, 2016 15:00:06 GMT
I've taken islington's suggestion of 7 seats for the 3 Ayrshire and 3 Renfrewshire councils. I have managed a "solution" without splitting wards, BUT I have managed to split Johnstone, Paisley, Kilmarnock and Irvine!
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Post by islington on May 8, 2016 15:02:56 GMT
I've taken islington's suggestion of 7 seats for the 3 Ayrshire and 3 Renfrewshire councils. I have managed a "solution" without splitting wards, BUT I have managed to split Johnstone, Paisley, Kilmarnock and Irvine! I'll show you mine if you'll show me yours.
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Post by No Offence Alan on May 8, 2016 15:28:11 GMT
I've taken islington's suggestion of 7 seats for the 3 Ayrshire and 3 Renfrewshire councils. I have managed a "solution" without splitting wards, BUT I have managed to split Johnstone, Paisley, Kilmarnock and Irvine! I'll show you mine if you'll show me yours. (1) Inverclyde and Muirshiel - Inverclyde + Johnstone North, Kilbarchan & Lochwinnoch + Kilbirnie & Beith. (2) Renfrewhire North - Renfrew North + Renfrew South & Gallowhill + Paisley North West + Erskine and Inchinnan + Houston, Crosslee and Linwood + Paisley East & Ralston + Bishopton, Bridge of Weir & Langbank. (3) Renfrewshire South - Barrhead + Paisley South West + Johnstone South, Elderslie & Howwood + Neilston, Uplawmoor & Newton Mearns North + Paisley South + Newton Mearns South. (4) Kilmarnock North and Giffnock - Giffnock & Thornliebank + Netherlee, Stamperland & Williamwood + Busby, Clarkston & Eaglesham + Irvine Valley + Kilmarnock North + Annick + Kilmarnock East & Hurlford. (5) Ayrshire North - Dalry & West Kilbride + Ardrossan & Arran + Saltcoats & Stevenston + Kilwinning + Irvine East + North Coast & Cumbraes. (6) Ayrshire Central - Irvine West + Kilmarnock West & Crosshouse + Klimarnock South + Troon + Kyle + Prestwick + Ballochmyle. (7) Ayrshire South - Ayr North + Ayr West + Ayr East + Maybole, North Carrick & Coylton + Doon Valley + Cumnock & New Cumnock + Girvan & South Carrick.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on May 8, 2016 16:28:25 GMT
Kintyre and Antrim North? Or 'Irish Sea Banks CC' Dál Riata CC, surely?
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Post by afleitch on May 8, 2016 16:31:47 GMT
The Boundary Commission in Scotland are probably going to be quite liberal with ward splitting. Thankfully
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Post by No Offence Alan on May 8, 2016 16:45:56 GMT
I have an alternative solution for Ayrshire/Renfrewshire. Johnstone is reunited, attached to western Paisley and Renfrew, leaving eastern Paisley now joined to Giffnock. It also includes a nice Torymander having Prestwick, Troon, Ayr and Girvan in the same seat, but leaves a residue seat stretching from Dalmellington to Saltcoats.
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Post by islington on May 8, 2016 18:07:55 GMT
I'll show you mine if you'll show me yours. (1) Inverclyde and Muirshiel - Inverclyde + Johnstone North, Kilbarchan & Lochwinnoch + Kilbirnie & Beith. (2) Renfrewhire North - Renfrew North + Renfrew South & Gallowhill + Paisley North West + Erskine and Inchinnan + Houston, Crosslee and Linwood + Paisley East & Ralston + Bishopton, Bridge of Weir & Langbank. (3) Renfrewshire South - Barrhead + Paisley South West + Johnstone South, Elderslie & Howwood + Neilston, Uplawmoor & Newton Mearns North + Paisley South + Newton Mearns South. (4) Kilmarnock North and Giffnock - Giffnock & Thornliebank + Netherlee, Stamperland & Williamwood + Busby, Clarkston & Eaglesham + Irvine Valley + Kilmarnock North + Annick + Kilmarnock East & Hurlford. (5) Ayrshire North - Dalry & West Kilbride + Ardrossan & Arran + Saltcoats & Stevenston + Kilwinning + Irvine East + North Coast & Cumbraes. (6) Ayrshire Central - Irvine West + Kilmarnock West & Crosshouse + Klimarnock South + Troon + Kyle + Prestwick + Ballochmyle. (7) Ayrshire South - Ayr North + Ayr West + Ayr East + Maybole, North Carrick & Coylton + Doon Valley + Cumnock & New Cumnock + Girvan & South Carrick. Many thanks for this. As promised, here's my take. I'll use the standard ward numbers. PAISLEY - E Renfrewshire ward 2; Renfrewshire wards 3, 4, 5, 6, 9. This isn't wholly a bad seat, and it keeps Paisley together as much as you can if you want to treat Renfrew separately (it omits ward 2 (Renfrew S & Gallowhill), which extends deep into Paisley town). 72009 RENFREW AND JOHNSTONE - Inverclyde ward 1; Renfrewshire wards 1, 2, 7, 8, 10, 11. A u-shaped seat curving around Paisley. To get from Renfrew to the rest of the seat you have to pass briefly through the Paisley seat. 75343 NORTH AYRSHIRE AND GREENOCK - The rest of Inverclyde; N Ayrshire wards 6, 7, 8. Not actually a bad seat. 77471 MID AYRSHIRE - N Ayrshire wards 1, 4, 5; S Ayrshire wards 1, 2, 6. I couldn't keep the two Irvine wards together. 74907 KILMARNOCK - E Ayrshire wards 1-5; N Ayrshire wards 2, 3. But at least Kilmarnock is kept together, and apart from the division of Irvine I feel this seat and the preceding one are not bad at all. 76971 EAST AYRSHIRE AND NEWTON MEARNS - E Ayrshire wards 6, 7; the whole of E Renfrewshire except ward 2. This is where it all goes wrong, of course; what we have here is a classic 'what was left over' seat. I couldn't think of a decent name, either. 77074 SOUTH AYRSHIRE - As above. Also as Piperdave had it, so at least one of his Ayrshire seats survived the carnage. 72079
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Post by greenhert on May 8, 2016 20:43:10 GMT
My proposed constituencies for Scotland:
Part 1.
1. Berwickshire, Roxburgh & Selkirk. As the current constituency of the same name minus Galashiels & District ward, but plus both Tweeddale wards. Electorate: 75,380. 2. Dumfries. The Dumfries & Galloway wards of Annandale (all), Lochar, Nith, Abbey, North West Dumfries, and Castle Douglas & Glenkens. Electorate: 76,107. 3. Galloway & Cumnock Valley. All Dumfries & Galloway wards not in Dumfries, plus the East Ayrshire wards of Cumnock & New Cumnock and Doon Valley, plus the South Ayrshire wards of Girvan & South Carrick and part of Mayhole, North Carrick & Coylton. Electorate: 71,200 approx. 4. Ayr. All South Ayrshire wards not in Galloway & Cumnock Valley (except for part of Mayhole, North Carrick & Coylton). Electorate: 71,100 approx. 5. Kilmarnock & Loudoun. Unchanged from current boundaries (minor ward adjustments only). Electorate: 71,101. 6. Midlothian. As the current Midlothian constituency plus Galashiels & District ward from the Scottish Borders. Electorate: 75,256. 7. East Lothian. Unchanged from current boundaries. Electorate: 76,153. 8. Hamilton & East Kilbride South. The South Lanarkshire wards of Hamilton (all), and East Kilbride Central South/East/South. Electorate: 72,818. 9. Rutherglen & East Kilbride North. The South Lanarkshire wards of Rutherglen (all), Cambuslang East/West, and East Kilbride Central North/West. Electorate: 72,442. 10. Clydesdale. The South Lanarkshire wards of Clydesdale (all), Larkhall, and Avondale & Stonehouse. Electorate: 75,404.
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Post by Adrian on May 9, 2016 0:00:19 GMT
Apart from some of the discussion about the Highlands, I've avoided reading what you've been doing re Scotland until I could have a go. I'm quite happy with this first draft – there's a few unusual seats (e.g. Johnstone and Arran) but in my mind it's a workable reconfiguration. Comments very welcome, of course.
The groupings of districts are for convenience only; I did try just by starting at both ends (Wick and Stranraer) and meeting in the middle (Airdrie), but ended up a couple of wards out. Asterisks indicate seats whose actual electorates will be higher or lower following the splitting of a ward.
Edinburgh & South 8.87 (9 seats) *Dumfries & Galloway 73202 *Roxburgh, Selkirk & Annandale 75648 Transfer Dumfries part of Lochar ward (4000 voters) East Lothian 76153 *Berwick & Peebles 70790 *Midlothian 79862 Transfer rural part of Midlothian East ward (1500 voters) Edinburgh NE 74168 Edinburgh SW 74704 *Edinburgh SE 78929 *Edinburgh NW 65300 Transfer western New Town from City Centre ward (6000 voters) The Dumfries transfer isn't needed for the numbers, but I'd like to get all of Dumfries into one seat.
Ayr & Renfrew 6.98 (7 seats) Ayr 72079 Kilmarnock 71101 *Irvine 74862 *Arran, Cunninghame & Johnstone 81859 Transfer Dalry side of Dalry & West Kilbride ward (3500 voters) Inverclyde 77565 *Paisley 80682 *Eastwood 67706 Transfer Thornley Park area of Paisley South ward (3500 voters) Both the transfers here are sub-optimal, but okay in the context that they're both internal to districts.
Glasgow 5.92 (6 seats) *Craigton 70032 *Cathcart 77327 Transfer Kennishead area of Newlands-Auldburn ward (1500 voters) *Scotstoun 69287 *Bridgeton 79124 Transfer area west of M8 in Anderston-City ward (6000 voters) *Maryhill 78635 *Provan 71948 Transfer Royston area of Springburn ward (6000 voters) Because you can split wards, you can configure the seats in Glasgow (and Edinburgh) any way you like, so this is just one quick option.
Central 11.12 (11 seats) Lanark 75404 Hamilton & Motherwell 77895 *East Kilbride & Rutherglen 80704 *Cambuslang & Bothwell 79336 *Whitburn & Shotts 76644 *Falkirk & Linlithgow 73544 Transfer part of Cathkin from Rutherglen South ward (2500 voters) Transfer New Stevenston from Mossend-Holytown ward (3500 voters) Transfer rural part of Armadale-Blackridge ward (2000 voters) Livingston 78053 Monklands 77228 *Cumbernauld 64296 *Stirling South 80405 Transfer Banknock-Bonnybridge area from Denny-Banknock and Bonnybridge-Larbert wards (8000 voters) Clackmannan & Stirling North 74113 Very difficult. I tried not to cross the Lothian-Lanark border, but I couldn't find a solution that way. Also, I don't like crossing a border to make up the numbers in the Cumbernauld seat; the borders hereabouts are pretty hucked up though: how did Kilsyth end up in Lanarkshire? A bit of Motherwell is in the Shotts seat, but otherwise I'm happy that I haven't majorly split any towns apart from Stirling.
Dunbartonshire 1.98 (2 seats) West Dunbartonshire 77006 East Dunbartonshire 71846 Bearsden and Milngavie are effectively the wrong way round, but it can't be helped.
Perth & Fife 4.99 (5 seats) Dunfermline 78254 Kirkcaldy & Cowdenbeath 73323 Glenrothes & Kinross 75077 South Tay 75957 Perth 72831 The numbers also work if you swap Kinross and East Neuk.
Dundee & North East 5.08 (5 seats) Dundee 76317 Forfar 77988 Montrose 76952 *Gordon 73365 (see below) Banff & Buchan 77582
Aberdeen 1.99 (2 seats) North 78274 South 71961
Highlands 4.08 (4 seats) Argyll & Bute 73889 Inverness & North Scotland 77938 Ross, Skye & Inverness 76334 *Moray 79257 Transfer Keith area from Keith-Cullen ward (4000 voters) I could transfer voters to the RSI seat, but it's big enough (area-wise) already.
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