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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 11:51:22 GMT
In fact a Cornish colleague once remarked to me that Devonians were nothing but Cornish who for some obscure reason believed they were English. I was left with no choice but to kill him, of course. You need to be careful what you say, otherwise you will find scores of Cornishmen swimming the Tamar and invading your pubs to hold customers to hostage with their funny jokes. You have been warned. |
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Post by greatkingrat on Oct 31, 2016 12:24:34 GMT
Five seat Cornwall  St Ives (78426) Falmouth and Camborne (78467) - includes Constantine, Mawnan and Budnock CBK1/CBK2 Truro and St Austell (78442) - includes Feock and Playing Place TFK3/TKA2 North Cornwall (78398) - includes St Enoder AER1 and Altarnun NLK/NNL1/NNL2 South East Cornwall (78490) The Isles of Scilly can go with Devon  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 12:28:48 GMT
Five seat Cornwall St Ives (78426) Falmouth and Camborne (78467) - includes Constantine, Mawnan and Budnock CBK1/CBK2 Truro and St Austell (78442) - includes Feock and Playing Place TFK3/TKA2 North Cornwall (78398) - includes St Enoder AER1 and Altarnun NLK/NNL1/NNL2 South East Cornwall (78490) The Isles of Scilly can go with Devon Very sensible, why can't the boundary commission see this? |
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Post by mrpastelito on Oct 31, 2016 12:51:32 GMT
Five seat Cornwall St Ives (78426) Falmouth and Camborne (78467) - includes Constantine, Mawnan and Budnock CBK1/CBK2 Truro and St Austell (78442) - includes Feock and Playing Place TFK3/TKA2 North Cornwall (78398) - includes St Enoder AER1 and Altarnun NLK/NNL1/NNL2 South East Cornwall (78490) The Isles of Scilly can go with Devon Very sensible, why can't the boundary commission see this? Absolutely, I for one wouldn't mind us annexing the Isles of Scilly. |
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Post by AdminSTB on Oct 31, 2016 17:33:45 GMT
Scratch a Devonian and underneath you will find a Cornishman... You know in your heart its true, throw off your Saxon shackles and be British... I'd love to know what Devonian would have to say about that, but he's not logged on for over a year and a half. @williamhone1780 - you were quiet to start with but you've really come to life over the last few days, haven't you?  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 17:39:36 GMT
Scratch a Devonian and underneath you will find a Cornishman... You know in your heart its true, throw off your Saxon shackles and be British... I'd love know what Devonian would have to say about that, but he's not logged on for over a year and a half. @williamhone1780 - you were quiet to start with but you've really come to life over the last few days, haven't you? Not bad for a youngster of 236 years  |
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 31, 2016 18:47:20 GMT
I'd love know what Devonian would have to say about that, but he's not logged on for over a year and a half. @williamhone1780 - you were quiet to start with but you've really come to life over the last few days, haven't you? Not bad for a youngster of 236 years London Corresponding Society not keeping you as busy as it used to? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 19:03:30 GMT
Not bad for a youngster of 236 years London Corresponding Society not keeping you as busy as it used to? Well you know how it is, idealism breeds strange ideas. I was speaking to a chap on Cato street the other day and he has this fascinating idea.... |
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 31, 2016 23:54:00 GMT
London Corresponding Society not keeping you as busy as it used to? Well you know how it is, idealism breeds strange ideas. I was speaking to a chap on Cato street the other day and he has this fascinating idea.... Best steer clear that's my advice... |
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Post by iain on Jan 4, 2017 14:56:25 GMT
I've had a look back, and the commissions proposals really are fairly reasonable here.
These would be my changes:
Devon:
Totnes: +Ashburton & Buckfastleigh, -Ambrook, Ipplepen
Newton Abbot: +Ambrook, Ipplepen, -Chudleigh
Devon Central: +Chudleigh, Exe Valley, -Ashburton & Buckfastleigh
Devon East: -Exe Valley
Dorset
Christchurch: +East Dorset wards of BFK, St Leonards, Verwood East, Verwood West, -Bournemouth wards
Bournemouth East: Existing seat
Bournemouth West: Existing seat +Branksome West
Poole: Existing seat +Canford Heath East, Canford Heath West, -Alderney, Branksome West
Blandford & Wimborne: +Broadstone, Merley & Bearwood, -St Leonards, Verwood East, Verwood West
Gloucestershire
Forest of Dean: -Coombe Hill (part)
Gloucester: +Quedgeley Fieldcourt, Quedgeley Severn Vale, -Longlevens, Elmbridge
Stroud: +Nailsworth, Minchinhampton, Berkeley, -Quedgeley Fieldcourt, Quedgeley Severn Vale
Tewkesbury: +Longlevens, Elmbridge, Coombe Hill (part), -Sprinbank, Isbourne, Winchcombe
Cheltenham: +Springbank
Cotswold: +Winchcombe, Isbourne, -Nailsworth, Minchinhampton
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Post by lennon on Jan 4, 2017 16:50:56 GMT
I've had a look back, and the commissions proposals really are fairly reasonable here. These would be my changes: Gloucestershire Forest of Dean: -Coombe Hill (part) Gloucester: +Quedgeley Fieldcourt, Quedgeley Severn Vale, -Longlevens, Elmbridge Stroud: +Nailsworth, Minchinhampton, Berkeley, -Quedgeley Fieldcourt, Quedgeley Severn Vale Tewkesbury: +Longlevens, Elmbridge, Coombe Hill (part), -Sprinbank, Isbourne, Winchcombe Cheltenham: +Springbank Cotswold: +Winchcombe, Isbourne, -Nailsworth, Minchinhampton That Gloucestershire suggestion was exactly as per my response to the BCE: www.pirateparty.org.uk/sites/default/files/library/Pirate%20Party%20-%20Boundary%20Response%20-%20South-West.pdf |
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Post by mrpastelito on Jan 6, 2017 23:50:31 GMT
I've had a look back, and the commissions proposals really are fairly reasonable here. These would be my changes: Devon: Totnes: +Ashburton & Buckfastleigh, -Ambrook, Ipplepen Newton Abbot: +Ambrook, Ipplepen, -Chudleigh Devon Central: +Chudleigh, Exe Valley, -Ashburton & Buckfastleigh Devon East: -Exe Valley The real and only sensible solution here would be to move Exe Valley into Mid Devon district where it belongs. |
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Post by Foggy on Feb 28, 2017 1:37:24 GMT
The Tories, Labour and Lib Dems have all come out against major changes to the boundaries in the Bournemouth-Christchurch-Poole conurbation, and want to retain a 'Mid Dorset' seat. The Conservatives also want a 'Mid Wiltshire' constituency on top of that.
They also generally object to the renaming of the Plymouth seats to something more sensible, with only the LDs backing 'Plymouth North' but strangely not 'Plymouth South'!
Sod the lot of them, I say.
EDIT: Bournemouth Council objects too, and has the audacity to make a counter-proposal for all of Dorset. They can jolly well jog on as well, as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by mrpastelito on Feb 28, 2017 13:49:09 GMT
Conservatives lobbying heavily for St Loyes to be part of Exeter constituency. Still a dominantly Conservative ward although Labour gained a seat there last time round.
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Post by greenhert on Mar 16, 2017 22:35:49 GMT
Former Bristol West MP Stephen Williams wants a restoration of pre-2010 boundaries of Bristol's seats as much as possible, by moving Frome Vale into Bristol North West and taking out Henleaze (which was in Bristol West pre-2010) and moving both Lawrence Hill and Easton into Bristol East (both those wards were in Bristol East before 2010).
The serious flaw in his plan is that Frome Vale has no connection at all to the rest of Bristol NW and the M32 forms too wide a barrier to cross.
If he wants Easton and Lawrence Hill moved back to Bristol East, Bristol West would have to take Southville from Bristol South and Bristol South would have to add Stockwood in return. He seems to have forgotten that for a time several wards of Bristol formed the basis for constituencies not strictly in Bristol (the 1997-2010 boundaries of Bristol NW really formed 'Bristol North & Filton').
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Post by pepperminttea on Mar 16, 2017 23:42:26 GMT
Former Bristol West MP Stephen Williams wants a restoration of pre-2010 boundaries of Bristol's seats as much as possible, by moving Frome Vale into Bristol North West and taking out Henleaze (which was in Bristol West pre-2010) and moving both Lawrence Hill and Easton into Bristol East (both those wards were in Bristol East before 2010). The serious flaw in his plan is that Frome Vale has no connection at all to the rest of Bristol NW and the M32 forms too wide a barrier to cross. If he wants Easton and Lawrence Hill moved back to Bristol East, Bristol West would have to take Southville from Bristol South and Bristol South would have to add Stockwood in return. He seems to have forgotten that for a time several wards of Bristol formed the basis for constituencies not strictly in Bristol (the 1997-2010 boundaries of Bristol NW really formed 'Bristol North & Filton'). The numbers for his plan do actually work because Bristol West is one ward too large and East one ward too small. So switching Henleaze into West from North West and moving both Easton and Lawrence Hill into East then switching Frome Vale into North West whilst leaving South unchanged is allowed (at least numerically speaking). Now as for the sensibility of his plan yes it is utterly ludicrous attempt at a Lib Dem gerrymander (removing two terrible wards and replacing it with one of their best) though they are probably finished at a parliamentary level in central Bristol whatever the boundaries. As you say Frome Vale has nothing to do with North West Bristol and is cut off from even Lockleaze by a motorway while Henleaze merges into Westbury. Indeed ward boundary changes came in for Bristol in 2016 and Henleaze ward was merged with the Westbury ward in a new 3 member ward so the commission will almost certainly want to keep the two old wards together. The boundary changes in Bristol are one of the most obvious in the country with Easton moving from West to East with North West and South remaining unchanged so Stephen Williams is completely wasting his time. |
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Post by cherrycoffin on Mar 17, 2017 0:30:03 GMT
The Tories, Labour and Lib Dems have all come out against major changes to the boundaries in the Bournemouth-Christchurch-Poole conurbation, and want to retain a 'Mid Dorset' seat. The Conservatives also want a 'Mid Wiltshire' constituency on top of that. They also generally object to the renaming of the Plymouth seats to something more sensible, with only the LDs backing 'Plymouth North' but strangely not 'Plymouth South'! Sod the lot of them, I say. EDIT: Bournemouth Council objects too, and has the audacity to make a counter-proposal for all of Dorset. They can jolly well jog on as well, as far as I'm concerned. Can I ask how you found the parties' proposals. Been looking for them but have been unable to find them |
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Post by Foggy on Mar 17, 2017 0:36:15 GMT
Can I ask how you found the parties' proposals. Been looking for them but have been unable to find them In the comments section on the BCE consultation website (the list view one rather than the one with the map), there are various filter options on the left-hand side of the page. Find the drop-down menu with 'Type of respondent', and the choice to pick the "official response" from various parties should be there, though some might be hidden under the "on behalf of another organisation" heading. It's really not a very user-friendly site. |
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Post by Foggy on Oct 16, 2017 23:10:08 GMT
They've bottled the boundaries in Dorset and the names in Plymouth and have ended up splitting wards in Gloucestershire again.
I'll see about the other regions, but on the basis of the revised proposals in the one I currently reside in, I am now fully in favour of the current review being abandoned.
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Post by neilm on Oct 17, 2017 9:00:16 GMT
They've bottled the boundaries in Dorset and the names in Plymouth and have ended up splitting wards in Gloucestershire again. I'll see about the other regions, but on the basis of the revised proposals in the one I currently reside in, I am now fully in favour of the current review being abandoned. The names in Plymouth make sense: I dislike 'Moor View' and 'Sutton and Devonport', partly because Sutton has been all over the place over the years and it's not actually a place in the city. I'd rather the proposed names were different, maybe including 'Drake' but you'll never get agreement so North and South make some sense. I'll look at the rest later. I'll be honest and say that I don't know, or care, about seats outside of Devon and Cornwall. |
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