Foggy
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Post by Foggy on Jun 23, 2016 20:22:20 GMT
Somerset West Somerset 74681 Taunton Deane 73293 South Somerset 74376 Mendip 77426 Sedgemoor 71969 Bath 75570 North East Somerset 74122 Weston-super-Mare 72335 North Somerset 75979 SomersetI'm sorry but as a Somerset resident, I believe that apart from your Bath seat (on which there is general consensus), that is an awful plan. Trying to match the constituency names to those of the largely unloved local authorities won't go down well. South Somerset is far too large for one seat, and West Somerset is chronically underpopulated. Removing the names 'Bridgwater' and 'Yeovil' from the list of seats just won't wash, I'm afraid. |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Aug 17, 2016 5:42:08 GMT
ZOMBIE REVIEW
ZOMBIE REVIEW SEATS OUT OF QUOTA
Changes to seat to get on quota
Truro & Newquay
gains St Dennis & Nanpean from Bodmin & St Austell
Plymouth Sutton
loses Plymstock Dunstone to Tavistock & Plympton
gains Moor View & Woolwell from Tavistock & Plympton
Tavistock & Plympton
loses Bridestowe to Central Devon
loses Moor View & Woolwell to Plymouth Sutton
gains Plymstock Dunstone from Plymouth Sutton
gains Ermington & Ugborough from South Devon
South Devon
loses Ermington & Ugborough to Tavistock & Plympton
gains Ashburton & Buckfastleigh from Central Devon
South Dorset
gains Bere Regis and Wareham from Mid Dorset
Mid Dorset
loses Bere Regis and Wareham to South Dorset
loses Hampreston and Longham to Christchurch
loses Hill Forts to Warminster & Shaftesbury
Christchurch
gains Throop & Muscliff from Bournemouth East
gains Hampreston & Longham from Mid Dorset
Bournemouth East
loses Throop & Muscliff to Christchurch
Warminster & Shaftesbury
gains Hill Forts from Mid Dorset
Taunton
loses North Curry & Stoke St Gregory to Somerton & Frome
gains Milverton & North Deane and Wiveliscombe & West Deane from Bridgwater & West Somerset
Somerton & Frome
gains North Curry & Stoke St Gregory from Taunton
Bath
gains Bathavon West and Peasedown from Wells & North East Somerset
Stroud
loses Nailsworth to The Cotswolds
SEATS WITHIN QUOTA CHANGED
Bodmin & St Austell
loses St Dennis & Nanpean to Truro & Newquay
gains St Teath & St Breward from Bideford, Bude & Launceston
Bideford, Bude & Launceston
loses St Teath & St Breward to Bodmin & St Austell
Central Devon
loses Ashburton & Buckfastleigh to South Devon
gains Bridestowe from Tavistock & Plympton
gains Cowick from Exeter
gains Exe Valley from East Devon
Exeter
loses Cowick to Central Devon
gains St Loyes from East Devon
East Devon
loses Exe Valley to Central Devon
loses St Loyes to Exeter
Bridgwater & West Somerset
loses Milverton & North Deane and Wiveliscombe & West Deane to Taunton
Weston-super-Mare
loses Blagdon & Churchill to Wells & North East Somerset
Wells & North East Somerset
loses Bathavon West and Peasedown to Bath
gains Farmborough and Publow & Whitchurch from Kingswood & Keynsham
gains Blagdon & Churchill from Weston-super-Mare
Kingswood & Keynsham
loses Farmborough and Publow & Whitchurch to Wells & North East Somerset
gains Staple Hill from South East Gloucestershire
South East Gloucestershire
loses Staple Hill to Kingswood & Keynsham
gains Kingswoods and Wotton-under-Edge from The Cotswolds
The Cotswolds
loses Kingswoods and Wotton-under-Edge to South East Gloucestershire
gains Nailsworth from Stroud
SEATS UNCHANGED FROM ZOMBIE REVIEW
St Ives
Falmouth & Cambourne
South East Cornwall
Plymouth Devonport
Torbay
Newton Abbot
North Devon
Tiverton & Honiton
West Dorset
Poole
Bournemouth West & Bourne Valley
Salisbury
Devizes
West Wiltshire
North Wiltshire
Swindon South
Swindon North
Yeovil
Burnham & Glastonbury
North Somerset
Bristol South
Bristol East
Bristol West
Bristol North West
South West Gloucestershire
Cheltenham
Tewkesbury
Gloucester
Forest of Dean
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Sept 9, 2016 5:23:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 23:41:08 GMT
"12. Broadstone, Ferndown and Kinson BC"
Crazy. Ass. Constituency. Name.
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Foggy
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Post by Foggy on Sept 13, 2016 0:10:49 GMT
"12. Broadstone, Ferndown and Kinson BC" Crazy. Ass. Constituency. Name. Despite being very much rooted in this region, I had to search for those places to figure out that it seems to be a 'Mid Dorset' seat... and yet it's a Borough Constituency. I find that odd. Very little change in Somerset compared to the zombie review, as expected. Disappointed my town probably won't have its name in that of a seat after all, though. |
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Sept 13, 2016 0:44:33 GMT
Understanding that a crossing of the Tamar was hard to avoid and that any such crossing would be pitchfork bait, they've gone All In here: Bideford, Bude & Launceston. Let them eat pasties!
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Post by Andrew_S on Sept 13, 2016 0:48:24 GMT
Understanding that a crossing of the Tamar was hard to avoid and that any such crossing would be pitchfork bait, they've gone All In here: Bideford, Bude & Launceston. Let them eat pasties! Pitchforks at the ready on the Devon/Cornwall border. |
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Post by neilm on Sept 13, 2016 0:48:58 GMT
Understanding that a crossing of the Tamar was hard to avoid and that any such crossing would be pitchfork bait, they've gone All In here: Bideford, Bude & Launceston. Let them eat pasties! Well well, that's exactly the same seat as I got on Boundary Assistant. I have two cross Tamar seats actually, one including part of Saltash. |
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mondialito
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Post by mondialito on Sept 13, 2016 1:10:06 GMT
Understanding that a crossing of the Tamar was hard to avoid and that any such crossing would be pitchfork bait, they've gone All In here: Bideford, Bude & Launceston. Let them eat pasties! Well well, that's exactly the same seat as I got on Boundary Assistant. I have two cross Tamar seats actually, one including part of Saltash. Torches as well as Pitchforks? |
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mondialito
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Post by mondialito on Sept 13, 2016 1:13:06 GMT
Bristol seats largely unchanged. Easton ward moves from West to East but that's it.
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Adrian
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Post by Adrian on Sept 13, 2016 2:14:40 GMT
SW proposals: s3.helpfulclients.com/bce/South-West-Initial-proposals-regional-map.pdfAnother good map. This and the SE show what the Commission can do when they have reasonably sized wards to work with. Their Devon is excellent - I'm wondering why I couldn't get it so neat; I think it's because I was trying to keep Launceston out of the cross-Tamar seat. I recognise a couple of my seat proposals: Canford Magna, and Midsomer (I prefer my names), and putting Quedgeley in Stroud too, though I'm not too keen on their "clever" idea of linking the two parts of the Tewkesbury seat through Cheltenham. |
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Post by uhurasmazda on Sept 13, 2016 2:19:43 GMT
SW proposals: s3.helpfulclients.com/bce/South-West-Initial-proposals-regional-map.pdfAnother good map. This and the SE show what the Commission can do when they have reasonably sized wards to work with. Their Devon is excellent - I'm wondering why I couldn't get it so neat; I think it's because I was trying to keep Launceston out of the cross-Tamar seat. I recognise a couple of my seat proposals: Canford Magna, and Midsomer (I prefer my names), and putting Quedgeley in Stroud too, though I'm not too keen on their "clever" idea of linking the two parts of the Tewkesbury seat through Cheltenham. I believe Tewkesbury is technically non-contiguous by road - unless you drive down the wrong side of the street, of course. |
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iain
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Post by iain on Sept 13, 2016 5:03:06 GMT
SW proposals: s3.helpfulclients.com/bce/South-West-Initial-proposals-regional-map.pdfAnother good map. This and the SE show what the Commission can do when they have reasonably sized wards to work with. Their Devon is excellent - I'm wondering why I couldn't get it so neat; I think it's because I was trying to keep Launceston out of the cross-Tamar seat. I recognise a couple of my seat proposals: Canford Magna, and Midsomer (I prefer my names), and putting Quedgeley in Stroud too, though I'm not too keen on their "clever" idea of linking the two parts of the Tewkesbury seat through Cheltenham. I believe Tewkesbury is technically non-contiguous by road - unless you drive down the wrong side of the street, of course. Pretty sure it is. The only sensible thing to do would be to split Coombe Hill ward. Taking out Springbank from Cheltenham is pretty unjustifiable by anyone without the almost religious fervour of the BC. |
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Post by mrpastelito on Sept 13, 2016 8:30:58 GMT
Very happy with that initial proposal I have to say. Eminently sensible to split Torridge - something I didn't really dare to. Same with putting Ipplepen and Ambrook into Totnes. Both solve a lot of problems. Looks like the BC isn't as averse to crossing local government boundaries as I thought they'd be.
I can't comment on Glos, and I wonder what people with more local knowledge have to say about their proposals for Bournemouth/Poole/Christchurch?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 13, 2016 8:52:11 GMT
I don't have any local knowledge but Bournemouth/Poole/Christchurch looks like a dog's breakfast. Worse than Brighton/Hove/Seaford.
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Post by mrpastelito on Sept 13, 2016 9:04:19 GMT
And so to conclude the South West.   SW-F (Swindon): 148586 = 1.99 = 2I want to keep the north-south split, although the new wards make it hard to draw a sensible boundary at the western end. SWINDON NORTH - 75640 SWINDON SOUTH - 72946 SW-G (Dorset, Wilts): 902484 = 12.07 = 12All as posted before. BOURNEMOUTH EAST - 71748 BOURNEMOUTH WEST - 77012. A simple realignment with ward changes in Poole would actually have brought the slightly under-size current seat within range, but two very small seats in the Bournemouth area caused problems elsewhere. Besides, it seemed sensible to get the two Branksome wards in the same seat. CHRISTCHURCH - 77771. The two Poole wards in this seat aren't a great fit; but neither are the Verwood wards, which are the alternative. Besides, putting two Poole wards in this seat allowed me to keep the E Dorset seat out of Poole altogether. DEVIZES - 75543. Or 'E Wilts'. EAST DORSET - 77510. Special thanks to Mr P for help with this one. I went through a lot of more-or-less unsatisfactory possibilities in this area, but I'm very happy with the eventual result (and it's a huge improvement on the current 'Mid Dorset & Poole N' that it largely replaces). SOUTH DORSET - 77608 WEST DORSET - 73511 POOLE - 73678 SALISBURY - 73760 SHAFTESBURY AND WESTBURY - 72519. The cross-border seat, but reasonably compact and logical as such seats go. NORTH WILTSHIRE - 77385 WEST WILTSHIRE - 74439 Imho a much better solution to Dorset than the initial BC proposal. |
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Post by neilm on Sept 13, 2016 11:01:52 GMT
I'm not sure about about putting Ipplepen into Totnes. Personally, I don't care about this community links thing but I can see that one changing pretty quickly.
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Post by slicesofjim on Sept 13, 2016 11:46:18 GMT
The new Bideford, Bude and Launceston seat is a big improvement on at least Torridge and West Devon constituency, which is a monstrosity which makes little sense. Whatever the shrieking Cornish nationalists might say, North west Devon and north east Cornwall have a lot in common. Not so sure about the changes in the bottom end of Cornwall though.
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Post by mrpastelito on Sept 13, 2016 12:02:18 GMT
The new Bideford, Bude and Launceston seat is a big improvement on at least Torridge and West Devon constituency, which is a monstrosity which makes little sense. Whatever the shrieking Cornish nationalists might say, North west Devon and north east Cornwall have a lot in common. Not so sure about the changes in the bottom end of Cornwall though. The bottom end changes have the great advantage of avoiding ugly boundaries around Snozzle I'd argue. Cornwall will just have to hope for an increase in OAP mortality so they'll manage to get 5 entirely Cornish constituencies all within quota. |
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peterl
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Post by peterl on Sept 13, 2016 13:11:54 GMT
So as a local I'll say something on the Dorset proposals
These are the seats being proposed
Bournemouth North and Christchurch (which would be my new seat) comprises of the Bournemouth wards of Throop and Muscliff, Strouden Park, Moordown, Winton East and Wallisdown and Winton West, together with the whole Borough of Christchurch. This as first sight seems a strange seat, although bears some resemblance to the pre-1974 Bournemouth East and Christchurch seat. The only connection between the Bournemouth and Christchurch parts would be over the River Stour and while there is a footbridge there is no connection by road without going through another constituency.
Bournemouth South encompasses the remainder of Bournemouth, except for Kinson North and South and Redhill and Northbourne. This would be the only seat that is solely Bournemouth, with the Borough spread across three seats, whereas it has two that are almost just Bournemouth at present (Bournemouth West contains a very small part of Poole).
Broadstone, Ferndown and Kinson is a bizarre proposal, taking areas from three different authorities and three (or four?) current seats with very little in common. Ferndown and Parley currently come under Christchurch constituency and are part of East Dorset DC, Kinson North and South and Redhill and Northbourne from Bournemouth East and Broadstone, Canford Heath East and West, Creekmoor and Merley and Bearwood from Poole (constituency wise I think some of those are Poole and some Poole North and Dorset Mid at present). A very strange mash up of different areas with little to hold them together. I don't know what they were thinking with this one.
Poole comprises of the remainder of the Borough and should not be a controversial one.
South Dorset doesn't seem to have changed radically, there is a small shift to insert the whole of a West Dorset ward of Broadmayne & Crossways due to district boundary changes. Not controversial I think.
West Dorset comprises the remainder of the said district and appears to have changed very little.
Warminster and Shaftesbury comprises of parts of North Dorset along with parts of Wiltshire. Cross county seats have not been popular in the past and may provoke strong reactions.
Blandford and Wimborne is the rest of North Dorset and East Dorset together with the Lytchett Matravers/Lytchett Minster area of Purbeck.
So a pretty radical shake-up for most of the county, especially to the East and North and a lot of controversy ahead.
I am also starting to think about how this will affect constituency branches. For my part, I would come under a branch made up mainly of Christchurch people and my current branch of Bournemouth East would in the main become the Bournemouth South branch. Big changes ahead for local party politics if this goes through in its current form.
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