iain
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Post by iain on Oct 17, 2017 9:36:35 GMT
I can’t help thinking that Foggy is somewhat overreacting here. The SW was basically okay in the initial proposals, with the only real problems being Gloucestershire and Dorset, which have both been fixed (albeit Dorset is still has a couple of minor oddities). A small tidying up in Devon would have been nice, but is hardly the end of the world. |
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YL
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Post by YL on Oct 17, 2017 9:56:50 GMT
I can’t help thinking that Foggy is somewhat overreacting here. The SW was basically okay in the initial proposals, with the only real problems being Gloucestershire and Dorset, which have both been fixed (albeit Dorset is still has a couple of minor oddities). A small tidying up in Devon would have been nice, but is hardly the end of the world. I don't have a good feel for the geography of the Bournemouth/Poole area, so I can't really comment on that, but otherwise I think the SW looks fine. Splitting Coombe Hill was the right decision IMO; the initial proposals' solution was just wrong and other options I was aware of involved radical rearrangements and had problems of their own. |
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Post by lennon on Oct 17, 2017 11:14:27 GMT
I've had a look back, and the commissions proposals really are fairly reasonable here. These would be my changes: Gloucestershire Forest of Dean: -Coombe Hill (part) Gloucester: +Quedgeley Fieldcourt, Quedgeley Severn Vale, -Longlevens, Elmbridge Stroud: +Nailsworth, Minchinhampton, Berkeley, -Quedgeley Fieldcourt, Quedgeley Severn Vale Tewkesbury: +Longlevens, Elmbridge, Coombe Hill (part), -Sprinbank, Isbourne, Winchcombe Cheltenham: +Springbank Cotswold: +Winchcombe, Isbourne, -Nailsworth, Minchinhampton That Gloucestershire suggestion was exactly as per my response to the BCE: www.pirateparty.org.uk/sites/default/files/library/Pirate%20Party%20-%20Boundary%20Response%20-%20South-West.pdfGuessing that iain will be pleased - that counter-proposal has been accepted in full.... |
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Foggy
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Post by Foggy on Oct 17, 2017 16:12:56 GMT
I can’t help thinking that Foggy is somewhat overreacting here. The SW was basically okay in the initial proposals, with the only real problems being Gloucestershire and Dorset, which have both been fixed (albeit Dorset is still has a couple of minor oddities). A small tidying up in Devon would have been nice, but is hardly the end of the world. Exactly. It was okay in the initial proposals. I think everyone came to the gradual realisation that ward splits would be needed again in Gloucestershire (kudos to the Pirates for noticing it first), but there will inevitably be disagreements about exactly where to do so. The loss of half a seat in Dorset was a good excuse to make more radical changes. Sadly the Commission has reverted to the closest it can get away with to 'minimal change' in that context. It looks like there's been some not entirely necessary tweaking in Cornwall as well. I think Devon was fine and am disappointed that the 'North' and 'South' designations for the Plymouth seats haven't survived. Not sure why Yeovil's had its name extended either. |
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Post by greatkingrat on Sept 10, 2018 12:40:57 GMT
Final recommendations
St Loyes ward moved from Exeter to East Devon
Devizes renamed to Devizes and East Wiltshire
North Wiltshire renamed to Chippenham and North Wiltshire
West Wiltshire renamed to Trowbridge and West Wiltshire
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Post by mrpastelito on Sept 10, 2018 14:28:08 GMT
Final recommendations St Loyes ward moved from Exeter to East Devon Devizes renamed to Devizes and East Wiltshire North Wiltshire renamed to Chippenham and North Wiltshire West Wiltshire renamed to Trowbridge and West Wiltshire Yes, nothing to see here. Compared to other regions most of the recommendations make sense, apart from the Devonwall debacle. |
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Post by greenchristian on Sept 10, 2018 17:25:05 GMT
Final recommendations St Loyes ward moved from Exeter to East Devon Devizes renamed to Devizes and East Wiltshire North Wiltshire renamed to Chippenham and North Wiltshire West Wiltshire renamed to Trowbridge and West Wiltshire Yes, nothing to see here. Compared to other regions most of the recommendations make sense, apart from the Devonwall debacle. Given the rules, Devonwall was unavoidable. It would need Cornwall to be made another legal exception to make a legal map without a Devonwall constituency. |
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Foggy
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Post by Foggy on Sept 10, 2018 17:48:41 GMT
Not a fan of the new naming convention for those Wiltshire constituencies (and Yeovil), although that's arguably far from the worst problem with the final recommendations in this region.
I suppose people who found most of the revised proposals okay will be reasonably pleased, but I think they've botched this, especially in Dorset and Plymouth. They took no notice of my feedback about the Boyd Valley ward in Kingswood at all.
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Post by mrpastelito on Sept 10, 2018 20:54:57 GMT
Yes, nothing to see here. Compared to other regions most of the recommendations make sense, apart from the Devonwall debacle. Given the frankly idiotic rules, Devonwall was unavoidable. It would need Cornwall to be made another legal exception to make a legal map without a Devonwall constituency. FTFY. |
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Post by greenhert on Sept 10, 2018 21:02:05 GMT
Yes, nothing to see here. Compared to other regions most of the recommendations make sense, apart from the Devonwall debacle. Given the rules, Devonwall was unavoidable. It would need Cornwall to be made another legal exception to make a legal map without a Devonwall constituency. Yes, although the Devonwall constituency could have been limited to just the Bude area. If only the maximum allowable deviation from the electoral average had been 10% (as it is for local government boundaries) rather than 5%! |
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Post by mrpastelito on Sept 16, 2018 11:44:45 GMT
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