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Post by A Brown on Feb 25, 2016 14:22:08 GMT
is there any detail behind this, just wondered where the 1 seat gain for Labour in the SW will be Could only be Plymouth depending on boundaries |
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Post by greatkingrat on Feb 25, 2016 14:23:57 GMT
Both the Plymouth seats are very close so it is quite likely the changes will make one notionally Labour.
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Post by Adrian on Feb 25, 2016 22:18:47 GMT
Private Bailey reporting for duty.
I just read the "Government Response" which they craftily left to the last moment so that its contents are a fait accompli. It seems the only concession is that they don't have a view on splitting wards. But the Commission still says that there are "fewer options for creating constituencies than in previous reviews" so it doesn't look like they'll be wanting to change their modus operandi.
The new electoral register will be a big story during this review. The fact there are so many fewer people on the register now than in 2014 is not a good start. I think it'll be worth someone's time to do some serious research into the (in)accuracy of the register.
Of course I can't wait to start putting my proposals together, but it's hard work without online tools - I wonder how soon Kevin Larkin will add the new data to his excellent Plan Builder? And are there any other tools in the pipeline?
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Post by greenchristian on Feb 27, 2016 11:17:26 GMT
Private Bailey reporting for duty. I just read the "Government Response" which they craftily left to the last moment so that its contents are a fait accompli. It seems the only concession is that they don't have a view on splitting wards. But the Commission still says that there are "fewer options for creating constituencies than in previous reviews" so it doesn't look like they'll be wanting to change their modus operandi. The new electoral register will be a big story during this review. The fact there are so many fewer people on the register now than in 2014 is not a good start. I think it'll be worth someone's time to do some serious research into the (in)accuracy of the register. Of course I can't wait to start putting my proposals together, but it's hard work without online tools - I wonder how soon Kevin Larkin will add the new data to his excellent Plan Builder? And are there any other tools in the pipeline? I e-mailed Kevin to ask him, and he reckons the England and Wales data should be up within a couple of weeks. |
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Post by Adrian on Feb 29, 2016 18:17:53 GMT
Did anyone else take part in the BCE's survey a few weeks ago? One of their staff had a phone interview with me for about 30 minutes asking some general questions and also asking my opinions about how the review could be improved.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Feb 29, 2016 18:33:58 GMT
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 7, 2016 10:14:39 GMT
As if nobody had such ideas until that johnny come lately said it.....
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Post by piperdave on Mar 7, 2016 13:18:52 GMT
Doing a quick tally of the maths in Wales, Wales is down to 29 (down one on the last recommendation) with Cardiff South and Penarth safe (96% of electoral quota). Next question, when will the ward electoral data be published? Update: Having phoned the Office for National Statistics themselves, they explained that the ward data was not available on the website, but will be released by the Boundary Commission for England and Wales. So then I phoned them explaining that I had been forwarded to them by the ONS and they explained that themselves (England) were in the process of getting everything ready for a dump this afternoon and will tweet the fact at @bce2018 (however Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland will be doing separate dumps). There is a #2018boundaryreview hashtag on their Twitter page but at the moment Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland do not seem to have a Twitter account I see you've found the Scottish Commission's account since this post. For others @bcommscot (and @lgbcs for the local government commission). |
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Post by afleitch on Mar 12, 2016 13:17:55 GMT
I have a feeling they will just plug in the recommendations of the aborted review as a starting point in most places.
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Post by maxque on Mar 12, 2016 21:21:17 GMT
I have a feeling they will just plug in the recommendations of the aborted review as a starting point in most places. That would be aganist the guidelines of the Commission, although is a logical and practical place to start. Mersey Banks (even the revised version) isn't and will never be a logical place to start. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Mar 13, 2016 13:38:53 GMT
That would be aganist the guidelines of the Commission, although is a logical and practical place to start. Mersey Banks (even the revised version) isn't and will never be a logical place to start. The Cheshire wards are different, though, so the problem isn't likely to arise. When the wards are broadly the same and you've got the same number of seats, they're likely to come up with similar conclusions. They don't necessarily even need to consciously base their efforts on the last review, just follow the same methodology. I think you're only likely to see significantly difficult arrangements where you've got large wards (basically the mets) or where there's been a significant shift in electorate (London and some of the larger counties.) |
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Post by greenhert on Mar 13, 2016 23:34:34 GMT
Regarding speculation about the boundary review, the parameters for the Sixth Review under 3 different scenarios would be:
1. 650 constituencies, 5% variance allowed: 65,532 to 72,430.
2. 650 constituencies, 10% variance allowed: 62,083 to 75,879.
3. 600 constituencies, 10% variance allowed: 67,292 to 82,246.
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Post by YL on Mar 24, 2016 18:07:42 GMT
The BCE has put notes from its meeting with the political parties on its website (bottom of this page). Highlights: - regions treated separately (paragraph 13) - more open to ward splitting than in the zombie review, but perhaps not very much (paragraphs 15-17) - where wards are split, polling district boundaries will be used (paragraph 16) - they're not considering using new wards where re-warding takes place this year or later (paragraph 18) - they're not using zombie review proposals as a starting point (paragraph 28) |
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Post by greenchristian on Mar 24, 2016 23:38:13 GMT
The BCE has put notes from its meeting with the political parties on its website (bottom of this page). Highlights: - regions treated separately (paragraph 13) - more open to ward splitting than in the zombie review, but perhaps not very much (paragraphs 15-17) - where wards are split, polling district boundaries will be used (paragraph 16) - they're not considering using new wards where re-warding takes place this year or later (paragraph 18) - they're not using zombie review proposals as a starting point (paragraph 28) Also, paragraph 28 notes that the Scottish and Welsh commissions are planning on using the zombie review proposals as a starting point. |
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Post by La Fontaine on Mar 25, 2016 15:53:04 GMT
The BCE has put notes from its meeting with the political parties on its website (bottom of this page). Highlights: - regions treated separately (paragraph 13) - more open to ward splitting than in the zombie review, but perhaps not very much (paragraphs 15-17) - where wards are split, polling district boundaries will be used (paragraph 16) - they're not considering using new wards where re-warding takes place this year or later (paragraph 18) - they're not using zombie review proposals as a starting point (paragraph 28) I believe it is still the case that parliament can tweak the final proposals and may do so if new ward boundaries can be used without significantly altering the proposals. |
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Post by kevinlarkin on May 8, 2016 15:51:57 GMT
The latest version of Boundary Line from Ordnance Survey has the boundaries of every polling district in England. There are 31826 of them in case you were wondering.  |
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Post by andrewteale on May 8, 2016 15:58:59 GMT
The latest version of Boundary Line from Ordnance Survey has the boundaries of every polling district in England. There are 31826 of them in case you were wondering. Quoted so I can like this again. |
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Post by kevinlarkin on May 8, 2016 17:49:23 GMT
Some polling district boundaries would make for interesting constituency shapes if used to split wards.  |
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Post by The Bishop on May 8, 2016 18:04:52 GMT
Some polling district boundaries would make for interesting constituency shapes if used to split wards. So where the blazes is that??  |
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