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Post by Robert Waller on Dec 11, 2015 14:22:34 GMT
However, NE Derbyshire did promptly send me the results by e mail - they attached the Declaration Notice!
(I'd copy it here if I knew how).
Holmewood and Heath
Lab 282 votes
C 75
By the way, they attached Coal Aston too, and I think it is different from the report last night:
C 583
Lab 267
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Post by David Ashforth on Dec 11, 2015 14:37:41 GMT
However, NE Derbyshire did promptly send me the results by e mail - they attached the Declaration Notice! (I'd copy it here if I knew how). Holmewood and Heath
Lab 282 votes
C 75
By the way, they attached Coal Aston too, and I think it is different from the report last night: C 583
Lab 267Thanks for this. That Coal Aston result is different from what was reported last night. Did the council also email you the result of the Dronfield Town Council, Coal Aston East ward, by-election, that also happened yesterday? |
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 11, 2015 16:03:50 GMT
What a saga  Maybe someone should tweet the unsuccesful Labour DC candidate, to confirm the figures posted last night are correct? |
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Post by middleenglander on Dec 11, 2015 16:32:24 GMT
However, NE Derbyshire did promptly send me the results by e mail - they attached the Declaration Notice! (I'd copy it here if I knew how). Holmewood and Heath
Lab 282 votes
C 75
By the way, they attached Coal Aston too, and I think it is different from the report last night: C 583
Lab 267Thanks for this. That Coal Aston result is different from what was reported last night. Did the council also email you the result of the Dronfield Town Council, Coal Aston East ward, by-election, that also happened yesterday? Conservative Home has last night's figures for Coal Aston and nothing for Holmewood & Heath although Mark Senior Can they be sued for delaying the Prediction Competition results??? |
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Post by Robert Waller on Dec 11, 2015 16:38:50 GMT
The figures I put up above are correct.
I was sent the official result sheet by attachment, with an apology that 'they were having difficulty putting them up on their website'. I have no idea why they can't simply publish the vote figures, even if they can't load the full facsimile of the notice.
If anyone wants to give me their email address by P.M., I can send the council's e mail on.
They did reply to my request very promptly.
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Post by David Ashforth on Dec 11, 2015 16:49:44 GMT
By the way, they attached Coal Aston too, and I think it is different from the report last night: C 583
Lab 267I've just had a text from the Conservative agent in Coal Aston. He says these figures are for Dronfield Town Council and the figures reported last night (Con 606, Lab 304) are the correct figures for the District Council |
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Post by Robert Waller on Dec 11, 2015 16:57:18 GMT
Ah, I've now had another look at the attachments. They did attach the Dronfield TC result and the Holmewood result (twice).
Not knowing of the TC contest, and seeing the name Coal Aston, I had wrongly assumed it must be the district result. My apologies.
So, it looks like the council in repyling to be were very prompt - and inaccurate!
I hope David's contact might have agreed the Holmewood figures.
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Post by David Ashforth on Dec 11, 2015 17:53:54 GMT
I hope David's contact might have agreed the Holmewood figures. Yes. Labour 282 (79.0%)
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Post by piperdave on Dec 11, 2015 19:36:03 GMT
But still not looking good for Labour in May. Yes, but maybe not as disastrous as it was looking a few months ago. 2012 was generally a better year for Labour than 2011, so 7% on 2012 is probably less on 2011% figures. Obviously its only 1 result, but the general trend is that the size of the swings to SNP is coming down a bit. I think we're still looking at SNP gaining seats, but it may not be a complete wipe out for Labour. Maybe it's optimism on my part, but I think there is a little bit of air escaping from the SNP bubble, even if its not bursting. Blantyre is a four-member ward. The quota in such at a full council election is 20% plus 1 vote (ignoring decimals). If the vote shares carried through to May 2017 (just a bit of fun!) then Labour would be pretty much assured of 2, the SNP would definitely get 1 and reasonably certain to pick up the final seat. That would be a net gain of 1 for the SNP. Obviously, with STV, there won't be a whitewash like there was for Westminster. But if we see the SNP picking off two seats in a three-member ward, instead of the reverse as happens across much of the central belt, then that could tip the balance of power in council chambers. But, 18 months is an eternity in politics. |
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Post by afleitch on Dec 11, 2015 20:43:37 GMT
I'm going to the pull the 'born and lived in Blantyre for 26 years card'  Blantyre has over the past decade had a somewhat factional local political scene. Indeed often those factions were within Labour itself, which provided a suitable opposition without much interference from the SNP at a local level. SNP party organisation there is pretty much non existent (and South Lanarkshire SNP's chances are relatively speaking, not as strong as they could be in 2017; they will get seats on a national wave only) This is a good result for Labour, in so far as they selected a candidate that even I would have had to contemplate voting for. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 11, 2015 20:50:12 GMT
The Labour candidate seems to be someone who was quite well-known in a non-political context before the election, which can play well especially in a small town like Blantyre.
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Post by piperdave on Dec 11, 2015 22:04:32 GMT
I'm going to the pull the 'born and lived in Blantyre for 26 years card' You poor man. Still it could've been worse. You could've been raised in Motherwell! |
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Post by johnloony on Dec 12, 2015 0:52:48 GMT
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| Con
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I am still astonished that there is a fifth count when the winning candidate has more than fifty percent of the remaining votes at count four. Is this deliberate or is it a mistake in the regulations? The latter. If the law had been written accurately to do AV properly, then the four lower candidates would all have been eliminated, and the second round would go straight to the top two candidates alone. |
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Post by markgoodair on Dec 12, 2015 9:27:18 GMT
I am still astonished that there is a fifth count when the winning candidate has more than fifty percent of the remaining votes at count four. Is this deliberate or is it a mistake in the regulations? The latter. If the law had been written accurately to do AV properly, then the four lower candidates would all have been eliminated, and the second round would go straight to the top two candidates alone. But it's more fun this way. |
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Post by middleenglander on Dec 14, 2015 9:31:28 GMT
Town Council result from Friday 11th December.
Wokingham, Evendons West
Conservative 380, Liberal Democrat 232, An Independent Voice for Wokingham Town 88, Labour 54
May 2015 - 5 seats
Elected: Conservative 1,718, 1,407, An Independent Voice for Wokingham Town 1,376, Conservative 1,336, Conservative 1,296
Not elected: Conservative 1,295, Labour 841
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 15, 2015 12:35:50 GMT
Might be worth mentioning as a footnote that there was a previous by-election in Coal Aston in the spring of 2014. (as both this place and andrewteale seem to have missed it) The move to the Tories since then is obvious, but this also seems to be part of a longer term trend. Demographics/new build? |
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Post by middleenglander on Dec 15, 2015 14:44:06 GMT
Might be worth mentioning as a footnote that there was a previous by-election in Coal Aston in the spring of 2014. (as both this place and andrewteale seem to have missed it) The move to the Tories since then is obvious, but this also seems to be part of a longer term trend. Demographics/new build? Was included in my analysis of the results on the December monthly thread. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 14:53:46 GMT
I am still astonished that there is a fifth count when the winning candidate has more than fifty percent of the remaining votes at count four. Is this deliberate or is it a mistake in the regulations? Regulations, I think. Quota is established at the start of the count and then not altered by the number of non-transferrable votes in the process. Im just impressed that an Ssp vote transferred to the Tories |
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Post by Tony Otim on Dec 15, 2015 16:00:27 GMT
Regulations, I think. Quota is established at the start of the count and then not altered by the number of non-transferrable votes in the process. Im just impressed that an Ssp vote transferred to the Tories More common than you might think and in both directions  |
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Post by Sibboleth on Dec 15, 2015 17:07:27 GMT
The move to the Tories since then is obvious, but this also seems to be part of a longer term trend. Demographics/new build? At the last census a majority of houses in the ward were detached, which may tell you something about the place given where it is. Always a very safe Tory ward until the mid 90s fwiw. |
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