Harry Hayfield
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Jun 9, 2015 12:50:30 GMT
I have discovered that YES I can extract video from my DVD's and YES I can upload them using fibre onto YouTube so as a result here is the introduction to the 1966 general election
which I would like members to look at and answer the question "Is the quality good enough for a full upload?" and "If it is, should I inform the BBC out of common decency?"
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 9, 2015 16:41:54 GMT
Someone at the BBC sent me a message recently saying they often view my YouTube uploads of BBC election shows, so I inferred from that that they're not particularly interested in taking action against people who upload vintage BBC election programmes (hopefully).
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Post by Guest on Jun 9, 2015 21:07:37 GMT
Something is already up to compare your upload with
Get in touch with "Mooncat" as to what he has.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 21:27:29 GMT
Get in touch with "Mooncat" as to what he has. Ah yes, I spotted this video last year not long after it was uploaded. I sent mooncat a message when he uploaded it last year asking him if he could upload the rest, and subscribed to his channel. I haven't had a reply. |
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Harry Hayfield
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Jun 10, 2015 12:53:16 GMT
General Election 1966 : The First Hour
Due to the time it takes to process (45 mins to process on computer and 45 mins to upload, much better than the 22½ hours it would have taken) I shall be doing one hour per week over the next few weeks
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 22:03:19 GMT
Having watched Harry's 1966 video, it really does put today's broadcasters and returning officers to shame. Seven results were in within the first hour (Cheltenham, Wolverhampton NE, Wolverhampton SW, Guildford, Salford West, Salford East and Manchester Exchange).
Not only that, but the returning officers just got on with the declarations. They just gave the candidates' surnames (admittedly there were usually only 2), the number of votes they got, and declared the winner. That was it. Brutally efficient.
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 11, 2015 22:06:50 GMT
Having watched Harry's 1966 video, it really does put today's broadcasters and returning officers to shame. Seven results were in within the first hour (Cheltenham, Wolverhampton NE, Wolverhampton SW, Guildford, Salford West, Salford East and Manchester Exchange). Not only that, but the returning officers just got on with the declarations. They just gave the candidates' surnames (admittedly there were usually only 2), the number of votes they got, and declared the winner. That was it. Brutally efficient. At each election the number of returning officers who seem to think it's a good idea to inflict the rather boring details about rejected papers on the public relentlessly increases. In 1992 hardly any did IIRC. Maybe the Electoral Commission is responsible for this by giving precise instructions to returning officer on how to deliver the declaration. It used to be left to their judgement before I think. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 11, 2015 22:11:27 GMT
I'm fairly sure it was the Electoral Commission; there were a number of other changes which almost all Returning Officers adopted, such as "Therefore I give public notice that A. B. is duly elected as Member of Parliament".
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jun 11, 2015 23:58:58 GMT
Having watched Harry's 1966 video, it really does put today's broadcasters and returning officers to shame. Seven results were in within the first hour (Cheltenham, Wolverhampton NE, Wolverhampton SW, Guildford, Salford West, Salford East and Manchester Exchange). Not only that, but the returning officers just got on with the declarations. They just gave the candidates' surnames (admittedly there were usually only 2), the number of votes they got, and declared the winner. That was it. Brutally efficient. Several of those seats were inner-urban constituencies that presumably had relatively small electorates at the time, so it may not be quite as impressive as it appears. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2015 4:35:29 GMT
I'm fairly sure it was the Electoral Commission; there were a number of other changes which almost all Returning Officers adopted, such as "Therefore I give public notice that A. B. is duly elected as Member of Parliament". I noticed the new wording. Can't quite figure out how it approves anything to mention "public notice" |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2015 10:24:15 GMT
I'm fairly sure it was the Electoral Commission; there were a number of other changes which almost all Returning Officers adopted, such as "Therefore I give public notice that A. B. is duly elected as Member of Parliament". I noticed the new wording. Can't quite figure out how it approves anything to mention "public notice" Yes, what was wrong with doing hereby declaring? |
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 12, 2015 17:04:34 GMT
The new wording using "public notice" obviously wasn't compulsory because quite a few returning officers used the traditional form of declaration.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 13, 2015 4:49:26 GMT
Yes, those long declarations were nervtaking; the votes could be counted at the PollingStations (fast&informative); the ExitPoll ought to have the %, too; real maps instead of abstract hexagons - yet it was even more exciting than 2010, I never watch television, but on that night&morning...
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 13, 2015 23:52:11 GMT
IMO this is by far the best introduction to any UK election night programme. Both the music and images are top standard. Whoever put it all together deserves an award, although they were obviously never involved again since subsequent introductions have been pretty poor by comparison:
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Harry Hayfield
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Jun 14, 2015 9:11:10 GMT
When it comes to exit polls this is the record (in terms of description):
1970: Gravesend exit poll (Actual vote shares)
1974: % Votes and Seats (excessively wrong)
1979: Computer based projection (seats only)
1983: Computer based projection (seats only)
1987: Computer based projection (seats only)
1992: Exit poll in "top 100 Conservative marginal" (Vote Shares, Change and Estimated Seats)
1997: Exit poll (Actual Vote Shares)
2001: Exit poll (Actual Vote Shares)
2005: Exit poll (Actual Vote Shares)
2010: Exit poll (Seats Only)
2015: Exit poll (Seats Only)
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Post by neilm on Jun 14, 2015 14:36:01 GMT
IMO this is by far the best introduction to any UK election night programme. Both the music and images are top standard. Whoever put it all together deserves an award, although they were obviously never involved again since subsequent introductions have been pretty poor by comparison: The music has been reused, I think? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 14, 2015 14:45:38 GMT
IMO this is by far the best introduction to any UK election night programme. Both the music and images are top standard. The music has been reused, I think? The music is "Arthur" from Rick Wakeman's "The Myths and Legends of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table" (1975) which was used by all BBC general election programmes from 1979 to 2005 (except 2001). |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2015 16:14:13 GMT
The music has been reused, I think? The music is "Arthur" from Rick Wakeman's "The Myths and Legends of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table" (1975) which was used by all BBC general election programmes from 1979 to 2005 (except 2001). The xx were used for 2010. |
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Post by cibwr on Jun 14, 2015 18:17:54 GMT
The music has been reused, I think? The music is "Arthur" from Rick Wakeman's "The Myths and Legends of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table" (1975) which was used by all BBC general election programmes from 1979 to 2005 (except 2001). And should be restored for future UK general election programs. |
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Harry Hayfield
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Jun 21, 2015 14:17:40 GMT
Here's the second hour from 1966
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