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Post by Andrew_S on Jan 22, 2015 2:11:55 GMT
Better to go enjoying yourself IMO.
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 14, 2015 14:48:39 GMT
The person who Harriet Harman and other "senior figures" apparently wanted to stand for Labour in this by-election has just left the party.
A bullet dodged in more ways than one, it seems......
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 14, 2015 15:31:34 GMT
The person who Harriet Harman and other "senior figures" apparently wanted to stand for Labour in this by-election has just left the party. A bullet dodged in more ways than one, it seems...... Eh? The Corbynite hordes having driven a splendid aspirant MP out of the party is "dodging a bullet"?
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 14, 2015 15:40:34 GMT
I came across O'Reilly a few times on social media. As a non "Corbynite", IMO she often seemed dismissive of those who did not agree with her.
Why allow yourself to be "driven out" anyway? What guarantee is there she might not have done the same had she managed to become an MP??
(though as we also know, there is a good chance she would have lost last year anyway)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 15:48:52 GMT
Anyone who feels themselves being "driven out" by "Corbynistas" needs to get a thicker skin. If not, they're no loss.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 14, 2015 16:00:27 GMT
Miriam O'Reilly, who joined the Labour Party in 1978, was attending a CLP meeting only last week:
She has left the party because she is unwilling to fund the Corbyn ideology. Not insufficiently thick skin (she took on the BBC and won, remember). She is appalled by what the present leadership have done to the party. And anyone who is defending the present leadership should think why people who should be party stalwarts are increasingly giving up and regarding time given to support the party now as wasted.
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 14, 2015 16:02:14 GMT
Miriam O'Reilly, who joined the Labour Party in 1978, was attending a CLP meeting only last week: She has left the party because she is unwilling to fund the Corbyn ideology. Not insufficiently thick skin (she took on the BBC and won, remember). She is appalled by what the present leadership have done to the party. And anyone who is defending the present leadership should think why people who should be party stalwarts are increasingly giving up and regarding time given to support the party now as wasted. Dare I ask what her CLP is er, was... ?
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Post by Merseymike on Dec 14, 2015 16:02:35 GMT
She seemed very put out at having been rejected at Nuneaton for a 22 year old - who was herself a Progress member.
I think its more a case of having got involved following promises which then failed to materialise, notably being selected! She has been posting hysterical nonsense ever since JC was elected - these sore losers really are the limit. Good riddance to the lot of them.
In any case, Liz McInnes has turned out to be a good, solid Labour MP for this seat who should have no trouble holding it in the future
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Post by Merseymike on Dec 14, 2015 16:04:55 GMT
Miriam O'Reilly, who joined the Labour Party in 1978, was attending a CLP meeting only last week: She has left the party because she is unwilling to fund the Corbyn ideology. Not insufficiently thick skin (she took on the BBC and won, remember). She is appalled by what the present leadership have done to the party. And anyone who is defending the present leadership should think why people who should be party stalwarts are increasingly giving up and regarding time given to support the party now as wasted. Perhaps you should ask why so many of us left the party back in the early 2000's. In our ward both our secretary (me) and our treasurer left. I wasn't willing to fund or support the Blair ideology. So if she wants to leave - fine by me - I don't recall any acknowledgment that the left had a place in the party at all by the right wing dominant at the time
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 14, 2015 16:09:54 GMT
I have spent most of my three decades in Labour asking people on the left of the party not to leave.
Its a slightly novel experience for the boot to be on the other foot......
Still, some things don't change. Those "lefties" exiting Labour comprised some you were genuinely sad to see go, but also those who displayed such an unreasonable inflexibility and - often - unjustified sense of entitlement and moral superiority that you were ultimately glad to be shot of them. Its much the same now, tbh.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 14, 2015 16:10:05 GMT
Dare I ask what her CLP is er, was... ? I think it's Birmingham Selly Oak.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 16:21:37 GMT
Which funnily enough had (well, half of it had) a hard-left MP for many years who would almost certainly have nominated Corbyn had she still been around to do so. There were certainly no shortage of hard left activists in the CLP during that period.
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 14, 2015 18:34:49 GMT
Which funnily enough had (well, half of it had) a hard-left MP for many years who would almost certainly have nominated Corbyn had she still been around to do so. There were certainly no shortage of hard left activists in the CLP during that period. Who then backed Salma Yaqoob in the 2010 election - although the story seems a little confused. I"m sure Richard remembers it better... Also, not sure how long O'Reilly has been there but Tom Litterick was also a left winger. People may remember him angrily shouting "Jim Fixed it for me!" from the podium at Labour conference 1979 after his defeat. Also note subsequent appearance of the Respect pie chart, a poor imitation of the Lib Dem bar chart electionleaflets.org/leaflets/5047/
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Post by ColinJ on Dec 14, 2015 19:21:37 GMT
Miriam O'Reilly, who joined the Labour Party in 1978, was attending a CLP meeting only last week: She has left the party because she is unwilling to fund the Corbyn ideology. Not insufficiently thick skin (she took on the BBC and won, remember). She is appalled by what the present leadership have done to the party. And anyone who is defending the present leadership should think why people who should be party stalwarts are increasingly giving up and regarding time given to support the party now as wasted. Very much how I feel. You can't really be ultra critical of someone leaving the party after 37 years. In a month my membership will lapse after 40 years. All very sad, I sometimes think it's all been a waste of time....
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Post by Merseymike on Dec 14, 2015 20:53:33 GMT
Miriam O'Reilly, who joined the Labour Party in 1978, was attending a CLP meeting only last week: She has left the party because she is unwilling to fund the Corbyn ideology. Not insufficiently thick skin (she took on the BBC and won, remember). She is appalled by what the present leadership have done to the party. And anyone who is defending the present leadership should think why people who should be party stalwarts are increasingly giving up and regarding time given to support the party now as wasted. Very much how I feel. You can't really be ultra critical of someone leaving the party after 37 years. In a month my membership will lapse after 40 years. All very sad, I sometimes think it's all been a waste of time.... But as I said I had to do the same over Blair and Iraq.....if parties stop reflecting your view that's the only option
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