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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 4, 2014 22:31:06 GMT
IIRC it was around 90% councilm housing back in 1981 so its virtually all council built. Not especially deprived though by the standards of such wards. In fact there are worse areas (though smaller) in Camberley
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 4, 2014 22:32:25 GMT
Folkestone... Kent turns an even darker shade of purple... Indeed - UKIP gain. Votes said to be: UKIP - 27.9% (+27.9) CON - 21.7% (-17.3) LDEM - 19.2% (+2.3) LAB - 19.0% (-9.1) OTH - 12.1% |
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Post by Robert Waller on Sept 4, 2014 22:33:12 GMT
Folkestone... Kent turns an even darker shade of purple... Is that a result, or a wish? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 4, 2014 22:34:20 GMT
SHEPWAY Folkestone Harvey Central
David Callahan (UK Independence Party (UKIP)) 287
Rodica Wheeler (The Conservative Party Candidate) 224
Tom McNeice (Liberal Democrat) 198
Wendy Mitchell (Labour Party Candidate) 196
David Horton (The Green Party) 96
Seth Cruse (Trade Unionists and Socialists Against Cuts) 29
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Post by middleenglander on Sept 4, 2014 23:01:05 GMT
Oxford, Carfax - Labour hold | Party | 2014 B votes | 2014 B share | since 2014 | since 2012 | since 2010 | since 2008 | | Labour | 168 | 44.2% | +15.6% | +11.8% | +23.8% | +26.9% | Liberal Democrat
| 101 | 26.6% | +9.0% | +3.3% | -11.0% | -9.2% | | Green | 63 | 16.6% | -14.2% | -9.9% | -5.0% | -3.2% | | Conservative | 24 | 6.3% | -13.8% | -11.6% | -14.1% | -20.8% | | UKIP | 24 | 6.3% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Loony |
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| 24% | 43% | 15% | 36% |
Swing Green to Labour ~15% since May 2014 but probably not very meaningful otherwise Shepway, Folkestone Harvey Central - UKIP gain from Conservative
| Party | 2014 votes | 2014 share | since 2011 "top" | since 2011 "average" | since 2007 "top" | since 2007 "average" | | UKIP | 287 | 27.9% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Conservative | 224 | 21.7% | -17.3% | -16.9% | -33.8% | -33.5% | | Liberal Democrat | 198 | 19.2% | +2.3% | +1.6% | -25.2% | -25.5% | | Labour | 196 | 19.0% | -9.1% | -8.1% | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Green | 96 | 9.3% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | TUSAC
| 29 | 2.8% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Independent | |
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| 75% | 78% | 98% | 107% |
Swing not meaningful Surrey Heath, Old Dean - Labour hold | Party | 2014 votes | 2014 share | since 2011 "top" | since 2011 "average" | since 2007 "top" | since 2007 "average" | | Labour | 290 | 44.1% | -5.6% | -6.2% | +5.0% | +5.2% | | Conservative | 196 | 29.8% | -0.5% | -1.0% | -3.3% | -4.5% | | UKIP | 171 | 26.0% | +14.3% | +13.9% | +12.4% | +11.5%
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| 59% | 61% | 59% | 63% |
Swing Labour to Conservative ~2½% since 2011 but Conservative to Labour 4-5% since 2007
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Post by Ben Walker on Sept 4, 2014 23:55:44 GMT
A gain is a gain, but I'm a little disappointed the share of the vote is not as high as it could be, especially in Folkestone. Perhaps in '13 we started out with getting a lot of second prefs. because their ideal party wasn't standing, not so sure.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 5, 2014 8:30:31 GMT
Althoguh in 2013 UKIP UKIP won barely more than 30% of the vote in the town despite winning all three divisions
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Post by Tony Otim on Sept 5, 2014 8:49:50 GMT
It's a ward where all three of the other main parties have recently been able to get a decent vote share - that's always going to make it difficult to get much above 30%.
EDIT: This is especially so with an initial breakthrough - a popular incumbent can shift that split over time.
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 5, 2014 9:09:28 GMT
Already mentioned upthread - a stunning 8.6%.
The lowest in any council election for a few years, I would imagine.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 5, 2014 12:19:37 GMT
Well it needn't be 'implied' or 'claimed'. David Boothroyd admitted as much Guess there may have been a lot of students? In which case, why call it before they return from hols? The result gives you one reason. Labour held a seat which would have been very difficult to hold otherwise. . |
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Post by Tony Otim on Sept 5, 2014 12:22:26 GMT
I can sympathise with some of the sentiment, but I'm fairly certain it isn't the lowest turn out ever and also that somebody seeking to stand to represent Oxford students should maybe learn the difference between effect and affect. |
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Post by Khunanup on Sept 5, 2014 14:43:57 GMT
I can sympathise with some of the sentiment, but I'm fairly certain it isn't the lowest turn out ever and also that somebody seeking to stand to represent Oxford students should maybe learn the difference between effect and affect. Correct. There was a by-election in a Liverpool ward when I was a student that had a stunning turnout of c. 5-6% I think. That wasn't even a student ward (think it was Kirkdale or Everton, Tricky or Old War Horse would know as they were probably involved in the campaign...). The ward I lived in, Abercromby, was mainly student/city centre and had comedy turnouts generally. I understand the standalone Euros in 1999 had around a turnout in the ward of 5%. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 5, 2014 14:45:40 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 5, 2014 18:54:41 GMT
Well it needn't be 'implied' or 'claimed'. David Boothroyd admitted as much I am not in a position to 'admit' anything about the activities of Oxford West and Abingdon CLP. The timing was essentially in the hands of the outgoing councillor and I'm sure if he had been aware of his workload at the time, he would have resigned in order to have a double vacancy election on 22 May. |
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 7, 2014 22:54:39 GMT
I can sympathise with some of the sentiment, but I'm fairly certain it isn't the lowest turn out ever and also that somebody seeking to stand to represent Oxford students should maybe learn the difference between effect and affect. Correct. There was a by-election in a Liverpool ward when I was a student that had a stunning turnout of c. 5-6% I think. That wasn't even a student ward (think it was Kirkdale or Everton, Tricky or Old War Horse would know as they were probably involved in the campaign...). The ward I lived in, Abercromby, was mainly student/city centre and had comedy turnouts generally. I understand the standalone Euros in 1999 had around a turnout in the ward of 5%. I am pretty sure it was a by election in the Melrose ward which at the time was in Liverpool Walton. On the Carfax situation. I think having virtually all student wards is not a good way to create any sort of integration of town and gown. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2014 23:13:14 GMT
Correct. There was a by-election in a Liverpool ward when I was a student that had a stunning turnout of c. 5-6% I think. That wasn't even a student ward (think it was Kirkdale or Everton, Tricky or Old War Horse would know as they were probably involved in the campaign...). The ward I lived in, Abercromby, was mainly student/city centre and had comedy turnouts generally. I understand the standalone Euros in 1999 had around a turnout in the ward of 5%. I am pretty sure it was a by election in the Melrose ward which at the time was in Liverpool Walton. On the Carfax situation. I think having virtually all student wards is not a good way to create any sort of integration of town and gown. You really think that warding is a significant effect on this? Incidentally it would be pretty hard without very significant gerrymandering to have non-student dominated wards in the centre of the city. The centre of Oxford is the university and little else bar commerical premises (also largely owned by the university!). Holywell ward is also student dominated. Its not like most cities where there are new blocks of flats and student blocks next to each other. The colleges have been there for the most part for 500+ years and are right next to one another (aside from the poxy out of town modern ones). |
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 7, 2014 23:50:20 GMT
I accept that it might be tricky in Oxford. Generally I don't think its a good idea to have wards where the vast majority of residents are temporary students and in a couple of cases these have been deliberately created - see Lancaster.
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Post by Sibboleth on Sept 8, 2014 0:08:00 GMT
It isn't as though most students care about local politics anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 7:48:26 GMT
I accept that it might be tricky in Oxford. Generally I don't think its a good idea to have wards where the vast majority of residents are temporary students and in a couple of cases these have been deliberately created - see Lancaster. The ward in Lancaster is the university campus, which happens to be roughly the right size for a two-member ward (or three under the new boundaries, with a new hall that was completed after the last review). There is not really a sensible way to draw the boundary which does not make it student dominated as the campus is clearly defined and (obviously) self-contained and any split between wards would be arbitrary. And notwithstanding their apathy about local politics, there is no reason why students shouldn't be identified as a community of interest like any other, especially in a place like Lancaster where the university has a significant social/economic impact on the city. |
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