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Post by Robert Waller on Sept 3, 2014 16:49:43 GMT
That's right (some research there?!), and my good friend John O'Reilly, with whom I had dinner last week, as one of the winners - he is now leader of Elmbridge Council, while I never dipped my toe in again as a candidate for electoral office.
(My late chairman at Harris, John Hanvey, used to say "try anything once except for incest and folk dancing").
And if anyone doubts my non-aligned status here, overall I have voted about equally for Conservative, Labour.and Liberal (Democrat), and also for Greens and UKIP!
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Sept 3, 2014 16:55:48 GMT
But not Patriotic Socialist Party? Yet, anyway.
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Post by Tangent on Sept 3, 2014 17:10:06 GMT
That's right (some research there?!) Yes - nosing around to see how the old Central ward used to perform. (Totally OT, but I will add that I found your monograph on the Dukeries extremely useful when writing up my Special Subject at university.) |
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Post by Robert Waller on Sept 3, 2014 18:08:07 GMT
Thank you, Tangent - as it was one of the lowest selling books of all time in History, I'd be interested to know what your Special Subject was!
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 3, 2014 18:31:16 GMT
It'll now set you back at least £18.20 on abe/amazon.  |
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Post by Robert Waller on Sept 3, 2014 19:00:59 GMT
Back on topic, though I think UKIP will do very poorly in Carfax, the other two byelections tonight will be an interesting test of their popularity in to contrasting but potentially favourable areas - a Kent seaside area and a predominantly working class Labour ward, though also in the south.
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Post by Tangent on Sept 3, 2014 19:12:36 GMT
Thank you, Tangent - as it was one of the lowest selling books of all time in History, I'd be interested to know what your Special Subject was! Labour relations in Western Europe, 1870-1914 - not that I remember much about it now. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 3, 2014 19:49:59 GMT
That's right (some research there?!) Yes - nosing around to see how the old Central ward used to perform. (Totally OT, but I will add that I found your monograph on the Dukeries extremely useful when writing up my Special Subject at university.) Did you find Oxford city council results from that period online? (Cambridge of course is available back to 1945) |
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Post by Tangent on Sept 3, 2014 20:19:47 GMT
Yes - nosing around to see how the old Central ward used to perform. (Totally OT, but I will add that I found your monograph on the Dukeries extremely useful when writing up my Special Subject at university.) Did you find Oxford city council results from that period online? (Cambridge of course is available back to 1945) Unfortunately, no - I sent an e-mail over to the council, but haven't got a response yet. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 20:25:39 GMT
Carfax is a strange ward and one of that small number of wards where I have been an elector. It'll be hard to call but I'm going to go for a narrow Labour hold over Green. Extremely difficult to call. Surprisingly strong tory vote recently really. Turnout will be woeful - surely this has to be in with a shout of some sort of record. |
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Post by lbarnes on Sept 3, 2014 20:34:01 GMT
1979
Central (5498)
Hall C (Con) 1,637
Hurst M (Con) 1,576
O'Reilly J (Con) 1,570
Griffiths A (Lab) 1,404
Walker R (Lab) 1,268
Towse A (Lab) 1,254
Noyce C (Lib) 722
Powell D (Lib) 718
Rathbone M (Lib) 676
Turnout 67.7%
1980
Central (4668)
Alan Griffiths (Lab) 776
Michael O’Reilly (Con) 756
David Quigley (Lib) 147
Turnout 36%
1982
Central (5625)
Iain McLean (SDP/Lib) 818
Michael O’Reilly (Con) 729
*Adrian Towse (Lab) 674
Jennifer Carpenter (Ecol) 154
Turnout 42.2%
SDP/Lib gain from Lab
1983
Central (5596)
Michael Hart (Lib/SDP) 997
John O’Reilly (Con) 941
Richard Brown (Lab) 788
Michael Hancock (Ecol) 192
Turnout 52.4%
Lib/SDP gain from Lab
1984
Central (5587)
*Alan Griffiths (Lab) 1051
Mark Robson (Lib/SDP) 851
Alan Hughes (Con) 493
Oona Murphy (Ecol) 237
Turnout 47.3%
No change
1986
Central (5515)
Gray P (Lab) 1,080
Adonis A (Lib/SDP) 1,057
Pittock M (Con) 508
Jeffrey P (Green) 288
Turnout 51.7%
1987
Central (5418)
Sharpe R (Lib/SDP) 1,034
Billings A (Lab) 1,026
Dreydel U (Con) 439
Andrewes T (Green) 232
Turnout 50.6%
1988
Central (5505)
Thomas A (Lab) 924
Thirlway J (SLD) 739
Talbot M (Con) 363
Starkey R (Green) 265
Turnout 41.8%
1990
Central (5507)
Godden M (SLD) 991
Thornton T (Lab) 931
Woodin M (Green) 464
Walsh J (Con) 273
Turnout 48.9%
1991
Central (5563)
*Sharpe R (LD) 1,071
Thornton T (Lab) 666
Woodin M (Green) 579
Hoare S (Con) 120
Turnout 44.6%
1992
Central (5818)
Amos G (LD) 659
Woodin M (Green) 632
Enright D (Lab) 477
Hocking S (Con) 250
Turnout 34.5%
1994
Central (5753)
Woodin M (Green) 970
*Godden M (LD) 946
Howe V (Lab) 500
Corby I (Con) 174
Turnout 44.9%
1995
Central (5763)
Sandell A (Lab) 703
Goddard S (LD) 654
Ingram P (Green) 616
Collins D (Con) 162
Turnout 37.3%
1996
Central
Paul Ingram (Green) 754
*Gideon Amos (LD) 585
Elizabeth Donnelly-Luff (Lab) 364
Paul Kenward (Con) 139
Tom Schmittzehe (Ind) 62
Turnout 30.9%
Green gain from LD
1998
Central (6400)
*Mike Woodin (Green) 789
Dominic Tilley (LD) 254
Martin Meenagh (Lab) 195
James Griffith (Con) 163
Turnout 22.1%
No change
1999
Central (6306)
Maynard Emily (Green) 428
Hopkins Michael (LD) 310
Atkinson Richard (Con) 219
Johnson Terry (Lab) 185
Turnout 18.4%
Green gain from Lab
2000
Central (6322)
*Paul Ingram (Green) 488
Tony Brett (LD) 456
Edward Turner (Lab) 409
Andrea Cummins (Con) 245
Turnout 25.45%
No change
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 3, 2014 20:48:41 GMT
1986 Central (5515) Gray P (Lab) 1,080 Adonis A (Lib/SDP) 1,057Pittock M (Con) 508 Jeffrey P (Green) 288 Turnout 51.7% Lord Adonis, failing to gain an electoral mandate... |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 3, 2014 20:54:07 GMT
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 3, 2014 21:08:40 GMT
1979 Central (5498) Hall C (Con) 1,637 Hurst M (Con) 1,576 O'Reilly J (Con) 1,570 Griffiths A (Lab) 1,404 Walker R (Lab) 1,268
Towse A (Lab) 1,254
Noyce C (Lib) 722Powell D (Lib) 718 Rathbone M (Lib) 676 Turnout 67.7% I thought we established that Robert Waller was the candidate. Is it mispelt on the results you have or is that a typo on your part? I wonder if C. Noyce is Chris Noyce who turned up contesting elections in Harrow a few years later and is the sole LD councillor in the borough now Presumably Towse was elected at a by-election some time between 1979 and 1982 as he is showing as the incumbent in 82 for the seat won by Hurst in 1979 |
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Post by lbarnes on Sept 3, 2014 21:18:47 GMT
I think you're right on all three counts, Pete.
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Post by Robert Waller on Sept 4, 2014 16:00:40 GMT
Yes, Adrian Towse was elected in a byelection, I think after Michael Hurst, a Politics don at St John's, went off to the USA.
Of course the Michael and John O'Reillys who appear several times are in fact the same person, now councillor for Hersham South (Elmbridge).
It was indeed Chris Noyce.
I was pleased to be the only candidate in 1979 who beat the alphabetical order!
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Post by nick10 on Sept 4, 2014 16:07:10 GMT
Yes, Adrian Towse was elected in a byelection, I think after Michael Hurst, a Politics don at St John's, went off to the USA. Of course the Michael and John O'Reillys who appear several times are in fact the same person, now councillor for Hersham South (Elmbridge). It was indeed Chris Noyce. I was pleased to be the only candidate in 1979 who beat the alphabetical order! And said Cllr O'Reilly is my Group Leader. |
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Post by Pimpernal on Sept 4, 2014 16:08:47 GMT
Interesting that a byelection many of you have predicted UKIP will win isn't a subject for much discussion... UKIP wins seem to have become part of normal politics...  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2014 16:43:30 GMT
Interesting that a byelection many of you have predicted UKIP will win isn't a subject for much discussion... UKIP wins seem to have become part of normal politics... Folkestone is an odd place. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 4, 2014 21:44:17 GMT
The turnout in Carfax is said to be a whopping 8.6%.
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