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Post by Devonian on Sept 14, 2014 21:47:29 GMT
Feminist Initiative must be utterly crushed now. I'd've liked them to have representation in the Parliament. Why? |
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Post by Ben Walker on Sept 14, 2014 21:57:47 GMT
Feminist Initiative must be utterly crushed now. I'd've liked them to have representation in the Parliament. Why? Spice politics up a bit and offer more diversity in choosing credible* parties. *Up for debate as what you define credible but you get my point. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 14, 2014 22:11:43 GMT
It's time the Swedish Right got its act together and cobbled together a coherent party (or two parties). Or that a useful centrist bloc emerged.
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Post by Devonian on Sept 14, 2014 22:19:18 GMT
Spice politics up a bit and offer more diversity in choosing credible* parties. *Up for debate as what you define credible but you get my point. From what I've heard of them they sound like a hard left group who think that the problem with Sweden is that it doesn't have enough authoritarian political correctness, that it actually needs more. I take your point about diversity in politics but I can't say I feel especially sorry that they've failed to pass the threshold. Anyway well done the Swedish Democrats, a great advance for them. |
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Post by Devonian on Sept 14, 2014 22:31:48 GMT
Stefan Löfven, the Social Democrat leader who will become Prime Minister tomorrow has said he wants to form a coalition with the Green Party. he says he also wants to reach out to the Left, Centre and Liberal parties but absolutely ruled out co-operation with the Swedish Democrats.
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Post by maxque on Sept 14, 2014 22:36:37 GMT
Feminist Initiative must be utterly crushed now. I'd've liked them to have representation in the Parliament. Meanwhile the SweDems are clearly ecstatic over doing better than polling suggested. Putting aside the translation barrier, a new line for the Moderates: "vote SweDem, get SocDem?" Given than the Swedish Democrats are quite left-wing on economics, I doubt it would work on their voters. |
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 14, 2014 22:38:27 GMT
SocDem, Green, Left and Centre would be a reasonably coherent centre-left government
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 14, 2014 22:40:22 GMT
Feminist Initiative must be utterly crushed now. I'd've liked them to have representation in the Parliament. Meanwhile the SweDems are clearly ecstatic over doing better than polling suggested. Putting aside the translation barrier, a new line for the Moderates: "vote SweDem, get SocDem?" Given than the Swedish Democrats are quite left-wing on economics, I doubt it would work on their voters. Agreed. They are pro-welfare for Swedes. Populist rather than neo-liberal |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 23:03:03 GMT
SocDem, Green, Left and Centre would be a reasonably coherent centre-left government I thought the Centre Party were actually rather 'libertarian' on economic issues? |
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Post by Devonian on Sept 14, 2014 23:23:46 GMT
Vote share with 5835/5837 counted
Social Democrat 31.2%(+0.5)
Moderate 23.2%(-7.4)
Swedish Democrat 12.9%(+7.2)
Green 6.8%(-0.5)
Centre Party 6.1% (-0.5)
Left Party 5.7%(+0.1)
Liberal People's Party 5.4%(-1.7)
Christian Democrats 4.6%(-1.0)
Feminist Initiative 3.1%(+3.1)
Other 0.9%
Now its impossible to judge just from these figures which votes have traveled where but on the face of it it looks like the biggest movement has been a swing directly from the Moderates to the Swedish Democrats.
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Post by neilm on Sept 15, 2014 1:21:01 GMT
I'm guessing the SDs would like to see a minority centre-left government in power for a short time on the basis that they might "mess it all up" and so make the SDs more popular. I was rather hoping for a similar result here in 2010. Another two years of Labour would have crushed them for a generation. Although we got a centre left government anyway... |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 15, 2014 7:17:15 GMT
SocDem, Green, Left and Centre would be a reasonably coherent centre-left government SocDem and Centre do have history together- but not sure how warm relations are these days. |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 15, 2014 9:56:00 GMT
Although we got a centre left government anyway... Its the way you tell 'em  |
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 15, 2014 14:38:59 GMT
Centre are an agrarian party so not particularly neo-liberal.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 15, 2014 14:48:06 GMT
Centre are an agrarian party so not particularly neo-liberal. With the current leadership in charge, I can't see it working well, but it's still very possible. They are certainly to the left of the Liberal People's Party, who ought to give up the pretence and merge into the Moderates. Quite weird when you think that Centre's sister party across the water is Venstre. |
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Post by Ben Walker on Sept 15, 2014 17:04:01 GMT
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Post by Sibboleth on Sept 15, 2014 17:04:13 GMT
Leading coalition:  Leading party:  Provisional figures in all cases. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 15, 2014 17:19:38 GMT
The figures would add up for a grand coalition...hmmm. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Sept 15, 2014 17:39:16 GMT
Relations between the Social Democrats and the Moderates are more like those between Labour and the Tories than between the SPD and CDU, so that's not likely.
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Post by Khunanup on Sept 15, 2014 17:43:12 GMT
Centre are an agrarian party so not particularly neo-liberal. With the current leadership in charge, I can't see it working well, but it's still very possible. They are certainly to the left of the Liberal People's Party, who ought to give up the pretence and merge into the Moderates. Quite weird when you think that Centre's sister party across the water is Venstre. The thing about the LFP is that their membership isn't terribly well represented by the leadership so comparisons with the Moderates aren't so good outside the leadership level. Anyway, it's often a question of emphasis when it comes to the overlap between parties when you consider that people have similar views in different parties, where's your starting point? Not so much when you think that Centre's other sister party is Radikale Venstre in Denmark. |
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