johnloony
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Post by johnloony on May 29, 2014 1:22:16 GMT
Anyone know if AIFE are intending to stand in the by-election? Are you not aware that the by election is next week and as such the SOPN has been out for some time? The question is not whether andyajs is aware of that fact, but whether AIFE is aware of that fact.
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Post by Andrew_S on May 29, 2014 1:23:36 GMT
Are you not aware that the by election is next week and as such the SOPN has been out for some time? The question is not whether andyajs is aware of that fact, but whether AIFE is aware of that fact. The reason I asked is that if someone already knows the answer they could save me time by replying on here rather than me potentially spending 20 minutes finding the SOPN given how bad some local council websites are.
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Post by johnloony on May 29, 2014 2:30:41 GMT
Paul Stephen BAGGALEY Independent David Laurence BISHOP Bus-Pass Elvis Party Nick The Flying BRICK The Official Monster Raving Loony Party Andy HAYES Independent Roger HELMER UK Independence Party (UKIP) Robert Edward JENRICK The Conservative Party David Charles KIRWAN Green Party Michael PAYNE The Labour Party Dick RODGERS Stop Commercial Banks Owning Britain's Money David Kenneth WATTS Liberal Democrat Lee WOODS Patriotic Socialist Party www.newark-sherwooddc.gov.uk/newarkbyelection/whocanivotefor/Found within about 30 seconds, but anyway
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2014 4:34:52 GMT
Anyone know if AIFE are intending to stand in the by-election? Deadline for candidates passed last week. They're not standing.
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Post by linders on May 29, 2014 14:42:03 GMT
Of course, the Newark constituency does not contain all of the Newark & Sherwood Council area, nor is it contained entirely within it.
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Post by Andrew_S on May 29, 2014 17:59:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2014 21:04:57 GMT
here it is
roadto326 @roadto326 Newark by-election poll - Conservative lead of 8 - CON (36%) LAB (27%) LD (5%) UKIP (28%)
no surprise
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Post by Devonian on May 29, 2014 21:05:31 GMT
Survation By-election poll for the Sun
Con 36% (-18) UKIP 28% (+24) Lab 27% (+4) LD 5% (-15)
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2014 21:07:14 GMT
all parties except LD would be happy with that
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Post by carlton43 on May 29, 2014 21:22:38 GMT
Survation By-election poll for the Sun Con 36% UKIP 28% Lab 27% LD 5% There is not much LD left to squeeze. Labour are so close behind UKIP that it may blunt desire to back UKIP as tactical anti-Conservative strategy? Would a savvy Labour voter prefer to facilitate the first UKIP MP to deal a body blow to the Conservatives in a safe seat? Or to support Conservatives to stall UKIP? Or would typical Labour voter concentrate on maximizing the very best third place possible...or even an outside chance of a strong second just ahead of UKIP? I don't see much mileage in UKIP looking to LD or Labour transfer votes. I think all parties fear it's surge and potential effect on them. Ergo, UKIP need to convert some more Conservatives and winkle out more electors who normally don't vote. There needs to be a bandwagon effect...of 'join our gang for the fun of breaking a mould and altering the face of politics'. Be in on the event so you can say "I was there! I was part of that turning point. I helped to make history." UKIP need some quite brilliant propaganda leaflets pitched to a nicety. I just hope they have that expertise and the nous to do it?
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Post by Sibboleth on May 29, 2014 21:24:32 GMT
Yes, but do you really want to win the seat?
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Post by carlton43 on May 29, 2014 21:33:10 GMT
Yes, but do you really want to win the seat? I cannot see any strategic or tactical reason for not wishing to win. It would be a serious body blow to the Conservatives and to Cameron and Shapps to lose this safe seat with large majority so soon after coming in third for the first time in any national election. Why would we wish to lose? Once we have an MP there is no other area on which to say 'You are not a Proper Party'. We will then be represented at every level and in every part of the UK.
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Post by Andrew_S on May 29, 2014 21:35:13 GMT
This poll certainly makes the by-election interesting, with 3 parties having at least a chance of winning.
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Post by mrhell on May 30, 2014 0:31:06 GMT
Not sure how reliable it is with 606 people surveyed. It you look at the raw data there's some wards which haven't been included much. I don't know the area and looked into ward turnout. It's pretty clear that a lot of this is connected with electoral size. However, some are odd as there's no reason why Farnsfield and Blisthorpe only had 5 people surveyed. Looking at the results (mainly 2011) I can't see that it will greatly affect the accuracy of the data. survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Newark-Poll-Sun-Tables.pdf
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Post by Andrew_S on May 30, 2014 1:31:46 GMT
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Post by oldwarhorse on May 30, 2014 5:59:16 GMT
No women standing, that's unusual
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Post by swindonlad on May 30, 2014 6:42:48 GMT
Yes, but do you really want to win the seat? It would give Farage a chance for another photo shoot in pub with an empty pint glass on his head, that well known sign of being a political party leader....
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2014 7:48:27 GMT
No women standing, that's unusual That's because a lady should always be invited to sit (lights blue touchpaper and flees for the hills).
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 30, 2014 8:03:31 GMT
You are Joey Barton and I claim my £5
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Post by Harry Hayfield on May 30, 2014 8:28:24 GMT
There's a very interesting question raised by that poll for Labour: "Which is more important? Electing a non Conservative MP in their 44th safest seat or electing a Labour MP?". If I was Labour I would answer "the former" and state that I vote UKIP as a tactical vote in order to beat the Conservative.
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