Crimson King
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Post by Crimson King on May 26, 2014 9:24:23 GMT
if you can look on triumph and disaster, and treat those two imposters just the same....
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Post by carlton43 on May 26, 2014 9:42:55 GMT
if you can look on triumph and disaster, and treat those two imposters just the same.... Watch it Crimson or you too may become a Kipper. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2014 10:31:28 GMT
Helmer may well do  Indeed so dok. Noted your stream of humour in the face of temporary reverses. On mornings like this it is well to remember that we all have mornings of triumph and of extreme loss. One so soon may turn into the other. Events will often decide and cycles in approval are inevitable. We may look at one another from changed aspects ere long. I'm a Liberal Democrat in Preston, I know extreme loss. |
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Post by carlton43 on May 26, 2014 10:37:40 GMT
Indeed so dok. Noted your stream of humour in the face of temporary reverses. On mornings like this it is well to remember that we all have mornings of triumph and of extreme loss. One so soon may turn into the other. Events will often decide and cycles in approval are inevitable. We may look at one another from changed aspects ere long. I'm a Liberal Democrat in Preston, I know extreme loss. OhNo!! Not after Glasgow Art School? Not...NOT....."The Bus Station"? |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2014 10:56:41 GMT
I'm a Liberal Democrat in Preston, I know extreme loss. If I may say so, you cope with it so much better than you coped with winning. Hahaha, you snarky twunt. Funny line. I'm turning that into an anecdote. |
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Post by neilm on May 27, 2014 13:37:12 GMT
Will Farage be kicking himself if UKIP DO win in Newark? No. He will be delighted. He will comment and praise. He will be free to roam and campaign. He will not need to worry about holding it at the GE. Does Helmer have to give up EU seat if/when elected at Newark? If so he will be in a high risk position of being MP for a short time only and being financially very disadvantaged. He has adopted a very high risk strategy for the party. You can't be a member of both, no. So the days of Ian Paisley with two or three hats are behind us. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2014 14:00:08 GMT
No. He will be delighted. He will comment and praise. He will be free to roam and campaign. He will not need to worry about holding it at the GE. Does Helmer have to give up EU seat if/when elected at Newark? If so he will be in a high risk position of being MP for a short time only and being financially very disadvantaged. He has adopted a very high risk strategy for the party. You can't be a member of both, no. So the days of Ian Paisley with two or three hats are behind us. So whoever is next on the UKIP list will be working very, very hard... |
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Tony Otim
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Post by Tony Otim on May 27, 2014 14:04:11 GMT
You can't be a member of both, no. So the days of Ian Paisley with two or three hats are behind us. So whoever is next on the UKIP list will be working very, very hard... Jonathon Bullock |
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Post by Devonian on May 27, 2014 22:57:15 GMT
Will Farage be kicking himself if UKIP DO win in Newark? No. The one thing Farage doesn't want is to be UKIP's only MP. Having the job of being a solitary backbench MP of a party with no support from a party group would prevent him from leading UKIP (just as it prevented Caroline Lucas) and to be honest it wouldn't really suit his character, I'm sure he'd get extremely bored of it. Also as he said himself he has no connection to the area so wouldn't necessarily be their best candidate. When he was asked last week in Essex if he would consider standing for an Essex seat in 2015 he said 'They wouldn't have me because I'm not from round here' (he's from Kent). When he runs in 2015 it will probably be in Kent, Possibly East Sussex but no further than that. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 27, 2014 23:23:44 GMT
I would have pinned it down to three seats in Kent - Thant North, Thanet South and Folkestone & Hythe - Thatnet NOrth being the least likely because of Roger Gale's incumbency and Thant South the most likely. However the party did exceptionally well in Medway in the European elecions and I wonder if one of the seats there may look like a good prospect. Gillingham for example
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Post by Devonian on May 28, 2014 18:25:56 GMT
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Richard Allen
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Post by Richard Allen on May 28, 2014 18:33:54 GMT
and every single office holder at every level in the party is expected to invade the Notthinghamshire town. Guido plunging to quite incredible depths of either stupidity or deceit with this quite ludicrous claim. |
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myth11
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Post by myth11 on May 28, 2014 20:25:20 GMT
Tuxford was the only ward in the Newark seat up for election in may and cons did better in term of votes compared to 2012
2014
con 562 42%
lab 443 33%
ukip 343 25%
2012
con 543 52%
lab 502 48%
this is labours best ward outside of Newark and Bingham
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neilm
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Post by neilm on May 28, 2014 22:02:06 GMT
Why no UKIP there?
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Post by Andrew_S on May 28, 2014 22:07:34 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2014 22:12:49 GMT
Its also almost certainly a better area for UKIP.
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Post by Andrew_S on May 28, 2014 22:34:54 GMT
Anyone know if AIFE are intending to stand in the by-election?
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Post by kvasir on May 28, 2014 22:36:43 GMT
Compare to the Newark & Sherwood shire results from 2013:
Con 10,711 36.04%
Lab 8,829 29.71%
UKIP 5,091 17.13%
LD 2,591 8.72%
Ind 2,499 8.41%
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on May 28, 2014 23:07:31 GMT
Wouldn't recommend using Euro election results as a form guide, even if the by-election is five seconds later.
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Richard Allen
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Post by Richard Allen on May 28, 2014 23:43:35 GMT
Anyone know if AIFE are intending to stand in the by-election? Are you not aware that the by election is next week and as such the SOPN has been out for some time? |
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