Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on May 14, 2014 15:36:55 GMT
But then I think to myself, is it just the symbols that people are attached to in this case? If so it ought to be possible to make careful adjustments that lean more in a reality based direction.
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neilm
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Post by neilm on May 14, 2014 16:08:50 GMT
I think so. The definitions could be tweaked but how often would the tweaking take place? As census questions were being crafted perhaps?
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on May 14, 2014 16:10:04 GMT
They aren't census categories!
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Post by myth11 on May 14, 2014 16:15:02 GMT
But then I think to myself, is it just the symbols that people are attached to in this case? If so it ought to be possible to make careful adjustments that lean more in a reality based direction. ok just for you ns-sec groups 1 and 2 15.7 ns-sec groups 3/4/5 24.4 ns-sec groups 6/7/8 54.5 |
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Post by neilm on May 14, 2014 16:17:29 GMT
I know they aren't. What I'm getting at is that in your suggestion, the definitions would need to be tweaked on a semi regular basis and census preparation would seem ideal as it slots into other ONS stuff.
I wonder how many people self define as C1s? Dental hygienists for example might not believe themselves to be skilled manual workers.
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Post by neilm on May 14, 2014 16:48:58 GMT
Conservatives best price at Stan James currently 8/15, Betfair 1.31 roughly 2/7 (so a tenner at SJ will return you 15.33 and at Betfair 12.86).
8/15 is an insane price. I'd jump on it even if they limit you to twenty quid.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2014 16:18:15 GMT
Source is biased but is this a Prescott moment for him or fatal ?
John Mann MP @johnmannmp
Ukip Rogers Helmer's response to questions about his expenses is to attack protestor in Retford. Now with police
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2014 16:19:41 GMT
@johnmannmp Helmer picked wrong protestor to wrestle with: police cttee member with severed arm from industrial injury. Today in Retford.
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on May 19, 2014 16:29:27 GMT
Why would be be in Retford anyway? It was removed from the constituency at the last boundary review.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on May 19, 2014 16:37:45 GMT
I had the exact same sort - presumably he was campaigning for the Euros instead.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2014 16:39:29 GMT
Alex Wickham @wikiguido
.@johnmannmp tells Guido Roger Helmer "rushed up and started wrestling" with protester with severed arm. Cops called but Helmer not arrested
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2014 16:44:23 GMT
I had the exact same sort - presumably he was campaigning for the Euros instead. second senior Ukipper to get himself into a mess over expenses though. A paper surely will run with it ? |
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Post by Richard Allen on May 19, 2014 18:05:03 GMT
Alex Wickham @wikiguido .@johnmannmp tells Guido Roger Helmer "rushed up and started wrestling" with protester with severed arm. Cops called but Helmer not arrested Depending what actually happened this has the potential to be extremely ugly for Helmer, and for UKIP in general. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2014 18:08:24 GMT
well the incident has not made it into the mainstream news it seems so prob dodged a bullet there.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 26, 2014 7:56:43 GMT
Ben Page on Sky News just now mentioned that UKIP 'won' Newark in the European elections. UKIP did of course carry Newark & Sherwood by a margin of about 400 votes. I should imagine that the UKIP lead over the Conservatives in the Sherwood section of the seat was larger than that and thats before you add in the Rushcliffe part of the seat
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Post by johnr on May 26, 2014 8:26:23 GMT
Will Farage be kicking himself if UKIP DO win in Newark?
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Post by carlton43 on May 26, 2014 8:35:41 GMT
Will Farage be kicking himself if UKIP DO win in Newark? No. He will be delighted. He will comment and praise. He will be free to roam and campaign. He will not need to worry about holding it at the GE. Does Helmer have to give up EU seat if/when elected at Newark? If so he will be in a high risk position of being MP for a short time only and being financially very disadvantaged. He has adopted a very high risk strategy for the party. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2014 8:35:49 GMT
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Post by maxque on May 26, 2014 8:43:31 GMT
Will Farage be kicking himself if UKIP DO win in Newark? No. He will be delighted. He will comment and praise. He will be free to roam and campaign. He will not need to worry about holding it at the GE. Does Helmer have to give up EU seat if/when elected at Newark? If so he will be in a high risk position of being MP for a short time only and being financially very disadvantaged. He has adopted a very high risk strategy for the party. Given Helmer's career before being a politician, I'm quite sure he isn't in financial difficulties. |
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Post by carlton43 on May 26, 2014 8:44:07 GMT
Helmer may well do Indeed so dok. Noted your stream of humour in the face of temporary reverses. On mornings like this it is well to remember that we all have mornings of triumph and of extreme loss. One so soon may turn into the other. Events will often decide and cycles in approval are inevitable. We may look at one another from changed aspects ere long. |
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