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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 27, 2021 19:32:02 GMT
All incumbents gloriously reelected (with lowest TurnOut).
Clear even in PaysDeLaLoire. In Brittany the left once again surprisingly weak (only 7% ahead).
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 27, 2021 19:44:05 GMT
Pécresse wins easily. And ominously, the Macronistes only got 10.5 per cent. It appears that Manuel Valls called on voters to plump for Pécresse. Asked his opinion of one of the left/ecolo list, the semi-celebrity Audrey Pulvar, he replied "mauvaise". and he doesn't mean bad as in good, does he? |
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Post by relique on Jun 27, 2021 21:08:58 GMT
All incumbents gloriously reelected (with lowest TurnOut). Clear even in PaysDeLaLoire. In Brittany the left once again surprisingly weak (only 7% ahead). With the division of the opposition, PS incumbent in Bretagne should keep an absolute majority of seats (42). Greens should get 12, the right LR 14, LREM 8 and RN 7.
The left might get a few more as the big cities haven't finished reporting.
In La Réunion, the left conquers the regional Council. The only flip for the moment (there is Martinique and Guyane that could flip as well)
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Post by relique on Jun 28, 2021 9:13:01 GMT
In the end, three Regions flipped to the left:
- La Réunion
- Martinique
- Guyane
Contrary to what parisian journalists thought, they were not previously held by the left, as their majorities included the right and macronists (and some center-left, yes). Now, they are only left-wing.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 28, 2021 13:11:39 GMT
The Communists are out. They have lost control of Val-de-Marne to LR. That was their final department, following the loss of Commie Central Seine-Saint-Denis in 2008 and Allier in 2015.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 28, 2021 14:12:02 GMT
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Post by relique on Jun 28, 2021 20:36:01 GMT
Following this, there is talk on the left about the alliances...
Delli (Green) in the North, Félizia (Green) in the South, Romani (Green) in the East haven't done much leading united left lists while incumbent presidents Carole Delga (PS) and Alain Rousset (PS) in the south-west refused to merge with Greens and Insoumis saying they were 'not republican enough', and had big scores (Delga was the best elected).
The PS national secretary (who was all for the PS-Green alliance) talked about "plafond de verre, plafond vert" (glass ceiling, green ceiling) using the homophones to signal that a Green candidate is a repulsive to a lot of working class voters.
In Hauts-de-France, I calculated that the Green list at the regional elections got 230,000 votes less than the left-wing candidates in the départemental elections. It was especially true in Pas-de-Calais, in the bassin minier (which bares a few similarities with northern england, I believe ?). Delli lost 110 000 votes in Pas de Calais alone (getting 60 000 votes instead of 170 000 for the left-wing candidates in départementales). These votes went to Xavier Bertrand, mostly.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jul 1, 2021 19:51:32 GMT
The (moderate) Right gained summa summarum even 2 Département-presidents (from 63 to 65), the Left fell from 28 to 26, the Centre remained at 4:  |
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Post by independentukip on Aug 6, 2021 20:58:14 GMT
Not being familiar with French local by-elections I was wondering if there are any that might give indication of the state of opinion regarding the Pass Sanitaire. Or non-presidential opionon polls which include the parties of Melenchon and Philippot (plus any other genuine as opposed to bandwagon opponents of the brutality) as options. Thanks.
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Post by neilm on Aug 7, 2021 9:36:06 GMT
What was the name of the original poster? He used to go on about living in France and how he was a hardcore socialist, IIRC.
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Post by relique on Aug 7, 2021 9:53:06 GMT
Not being familiar with French local by-elections I was wondering if there are any that might give indication of the state of opinion regarding the Pass Sanitaire. Or non-presidential opionon polls which include the parties of Melenchon and Philippot (plus any other genuine as opposed to bandwagon opponents of the brutality) as options. Thanks. A few problems to get a good "national reading" from by-elections in France:
- one year before a normal renewal of the parliament (the next one is in 2022), no by-elections are organized for the national assembly, and the vacant seats stay vacant - therefore, all by-elections are mostly municipal elections in small towns. These are, of course, political, but there is no way parties such as Mélenchon's or Philippots have the means and the people to have 20-30 candidates (half women) in a 3,000 inhabitant city (usually, it's difficult to get 25 voters, so 25 candidates...). Usually, council majorities and council oppositions can have members of a party in their midst, but there are rarely a one-party list, and they are populated with independents. Sometimes they are clearly right-wing or left-wing, but not often. Getting national informations is impossible in those cases. Particularly as the by-elections are mostly triggered either by resignation inside a majority or illegal campaign actions. So the resulting campaign will usually be about very specific local subjects. - the french national medias are opponents to democracy and never do their job during by-elections; they never participate in the nationalization of the vote and completely ignore these by-elections (until the vote is done and the results are declared; then, they do a small article about it which is about the same length as a notice of marriage).
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 7, 2021 10:18:25 GMT
What was the name of the original poster? He used to go on about living in France and how he was a hardcore socialist, IIRC. Gah. Can't remember. Had a quick look through the thread to see if anyone had cited him by name, but couldn't find anything. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 7, 2021 11:54:31 GMT
What was the name of the original poster? He used to go on about living in France and how he was a hardcore socialist, IIRC. He used to mention living near Toulouse. Blagnac ? |
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 7, 2021 12:05:27 GMT
It would appear their login was @gannetfrancais, unfortunately time has erased the memory of whether that was the name they actually used or not.
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Post by independentukip on Aug 7, 2021 12:56:15 GMT
Not being familiar with French local by-elections I was wondering if there are any that might give indication of the state of opinion regarding the Pass Sanitaire. Or non-presidential opionon polls which include the parties of Melenchon and Philippot (plus any other genuine as opposed to bandwagon opponents of the brutality) as options. Thanks. A few problems to get a good "national reading" from by-elections in France: ...
Thank you very much for that. Perhaps the true measure of opposition won't be apparent until Macron has his head placed in the Guillotine. |
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Post by neilm on Mar 5, 2022 19:49:18 GMT
I can't recall if I posted up thread, but my stepmother was a candidate for the local council last year. She didn't get in as she was too far down the list, but following a resignation she took office last month.
She told me that she was due at a seance, which surprised me slightly until I realised that she meant a council meeting.
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