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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 0:08:48 GMT
Local Candidates for Local People, yes, yes. Very Birmingham. especially in that quarter of North Brum, Oscott returns the local Tory there occasionally. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 0:09:32 GMT
quite a big win in the end ont he predicted low turnout
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Sambrook with 138 majority on a 19 per cent turnout
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Post by dizz on Feb 14, 2014 0:11:23 GMT
All the sandwiches to Gary on the basis of tonight's result…..
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Post by Sibboleth on Feb 14, 2014 0:12:10 GMT
Ah, official comedy turnout levels. Why the hell was this by-election called, again?
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Post by The Bishop on Feb 14, 2014 0:12:21 GMT
The circumstances are remarkably similar - especially in the Tory candidates being "community politician" types who can transcend their "core" support. Given that it was fairly obvious how Sambrook was going to fight this campaign, was it really beyond Labour to pick somebody local? And at least this result has made Liam Byrne look a prat, if you want a silver lining  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 0:17:15 GMT
Brum is normally good at council results, the final figures must be known !
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Post by AdminSTB on Feb 14, 2014 0:31:36 GMT
Kingstanding partial result, still waiting for rest...
Con 1,571
Lab 1,433
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Post by Sibboleth on Feb 14, 2014 0:33:43 GMT
There's something faintly awe-inspiring about the pointless pissing away of a seat. Though all parties do it from time to time so...
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Post by The Bishop on Feb 14, 2014 0:37:20 GMT
There's something faintly awe-inspiring about the pointless pissing away of a seat. Though all parties do it from time to time so... I think that Rotherham MDC seat last spring was the last time before today we managed it in a by-election. Would be interested to see Brum Labour's "justification" for forcing this contest..... |
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Post by AdminSTB on Feb 14, 2014 0:40:20 GMT
Con 1,571
Lab 1,433
UKIP 266
LD 43
NF 33
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Feb 14, 2014 0:42:04 GMT
C 47.0
Lab 42.8
UKIP 7.9
L Dem 1.3
NF 1.0
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Post by AdminSTB on Feb 14, 2014 0:47:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 0:52:01 GMT
Though doesn't say anything that was not generally known. |
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Post by Richard Allen on Feb 14, 2014 0:52:56 GMT
My faith in humanity has been restored. Forget about the party labels and this is so obviously the right result. On the one side you have a dedicated local activist who has worked his patch for a number of years and is obviously committed to the area. On the other side you have a carpet bagger who is there solely because she wants to be on the council and got nominated because she is a close ally to the Deputy Leader of the Council.
Perhaps this means that later this year Lorraine Owen will once again be telling the good folk of Stechford and Yardley North just how committed she is to representing them on the council.
Well done Gary, you deserve this result.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 0:53:30 GMT
I wasn't expecting winning there. Remarkable that the right is winning places like that mid term really. Well done Gary - I'm no local expert, but it is obvious that you were the true local champion.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 0:56:09 GMT
I wasn't expecting winning there. Remarkable that the right is winning places like that mid term really. For the reasons stated if this had been Joe Bloggs standing for the tories then would have been a comfortable Labour hold. The circumstances made it totally stupid when you look at it to call it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 0:58:17 GMT
I wasn't expecting winning there. Remarkable that the right is winning places like that mid term really. For the reasons stated if this had been Joe Bloggs standing for the tories then would have been a comfortable Labour hold. The circumstances made it totally stupid when you look at it to call it. While I agree, losing somewhere you won in 2008 is a really poor show by the labour party. Yes you had a strong opponent, but you should have won. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 0:59:33 GMT
Of course and no denying that but I have just been told of a couple of things that makes the defeat worse for Brum Labour ...
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Post by Richard Allen on Feb 14, 2014 1:03:33 GMT
For the reasons stated if this had been Joe Bloggs standing for the tories then would have been a comfortable Labour hold. The circumstances made it totally stupid when you look at it to call it. While I agree, losing somewhere you won in 2008 is a really poor show by the labour party. Yes you had a strong opponent, but you should have won. Strong opponent and a terrible candidate. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 1:05:28 GMT
There's something faintly awe-inspiring about the pointless pissing away of a seat. Though all parties do it from time to time so... Not only pointless but maybe permanent. I can see him being very hard to prise out. It does mean that the Tory candidate in May won't be Sambrook for the first time since 2007, so the result will be quite interesting. |
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