ColinJ
Labour
Living in the Past
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Post by ColinJ on Sept 19, 2024 22:32:22 GMT
999 valid votes in Hartlepool sees a near perfect and somewhat surreal convergence of raw vote and % share figures....
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Post by ClevelandYorks on Sept 19, 2024 22:35:02 GMT
999 valid votes in Hartlepool sees a near perfect and somewhat surreal convergence of raw vote and % share figures.... Hence why I deleted my original post and reposted it - thought I'd got the two mixed up! |
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Post by andrewp on Sept 19, 2024 22:39:55 GMT
St Neots Eatons is an Independent Chapman win
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Post by andrewp on Sept 19, 2024 22:45:09 GMT
Cornwall. Falmouth Penwerris
Lab 337
LD 228
Green 189
Lab hold
LAB: 44.7% (-19.8)
LD 30.2% (+25.5)
GRN: 25.1% (+16.6)
No CON (-19.7), IND (-1.8), TUSC (-0.9).
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Post by evergreenadam on Sept 19, 2024 22:48:10 GMT
That looks a real shocker for Labour there. Losing shouldn't be a shocker, losing Sidemoor that badly should be. The info in Andrew’s preview suggested that the Lib Dem candidate might have a useful local profile from which to launch his campaign. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 19, 2024 23:02:01 GMT
West End is a Conservative gain
C 627
Lab 489
GP 94
L Dem 89 I think
Rejected 8
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Post by samtheodoridi on Sept 19, 2024 23:08:33 GMT
Marine is a Conservative gain
Con 865
Lab 781
Reform 228
Grn 138
LD 113
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Post by ElectionMapsUK on Sept 19, 2024 23:30:49 GMT
West End
CON 627
LAB 489
GRN 94
LDM 74
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 19, 2024 23:47:40 GMT
WESTMINSTER Harrow Road
HOOK, Regan (Labour Party) 512
HASAN, Faaiz (Green Party) 244
SHAFIEI, Hoz (Workers Party – For Britain, For Gaza) 166
GOFF, Jonathan Mehdi James (The Conservative Party Candidate) 162
TOEMAN, Helen (Liberal Democrats) 63
DHARAMSEY, Abby-Jan (Independent) 11
Rejected 5
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Post by sanders on Sept 20, 2024 0:01:39 GMT
Marine is a Conservative gain Con 865 Lab 781 Reform 228 Grn 138 LD 113 Credit where credit is due. That’s an impressive Tory result especially with a big Reform vote. Low turnout obviously but as someone who’s prattled on at length for years about Tory woes in Worthing, they did well here. |
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Post by phil156 on Sept 20, 2024 0:34:54 GMT
Here we all are awaiting Stockton. There is always one that comes last
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Post by sanders on Sept 20, 2024 0:55:45 GMT
WESTMINSTER Harrow Road HOOK, Regan (Labour Party) 512 HASAN, Faaiz (Green Party) 244 SHAFIEI, Hoz (Workers Party – For Britain, For Gaza) 166 GOFF, Jonathan Mehdi James (The Conservative Party Candidate) 162 TOEMAN, Helen (Liberal Democrats) 63 DHARAMSEY, Abby-Jan (Independent) 11 Rejected 5 Labour vote down 27%, very similar to the Camden by-elections two weeks ago. |
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Post by Adam Gray on Sept 20, 2024 1:36:20 GMT
Also a little surreal that there's only a 6 percentage point difference between the Labour shares in Harrow Road and West End.
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Post by greenman on Sept 20, 2024 1:59:18 GMT
Green & Worker's took 35.4% of the vote having not run in the 2022 council election.
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Post by sanders on Sept 20, 2024 2:21:06 GMT
West End is something of a bellwether for Westminster - Tories won 2/3 in 2018 and Labour won 3/3 in 2022. Great night for Tim Barnes and the Conservatives.
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Post by batman on Sept 20, 2024 3:55:30 GMT
I have campaigned (in the past, not in these by-elections as I’ve been unwell and then on holiday) in two of these wards which we lost. West End’s loss is unsurprising given the unpopular plan to pedestrianise Oxford Street and the strong Tory candidate. Marine however I suspect is more national issues. The southern part of the ward remains elderly and naturally Tory and the WFA issue must have been a major factor. In fact very little of the ward looks like natural Labour territory, just a few streets in the NE of the ward and really the Tories have seriously underperformed for several years. Heene next door is rather similar although a bit more naturally Labour and the Tories can’t be discounted there either. The Bromsgrove loss is not very surprising, but the extent of it is a shocker. Labour does often struggle there and has a habit of rarely holding support for long except in some traditionally stronger parts in the south of the town. It’s not been a good couple of weeks for the party or government and a grip needs to be restored.
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Post by sanders on Sept 20, 2024 4:29:19 GMT
On the West End numbers, the Tories would retake Westminster City Council in 2026. Obviously it's one by-election, but yeah. Barnes is very knowledgeable about transport issues and once told me that Westminster had over 1,000 Electric Vehicle chargers. I guess that's mostly because of the Central London location, but still, a very impressive feat, and these were the 2022 figures. Harrow at the time had a fraction of that, around 20, siimilar for Havering. The irony is of course that if you live in Westminster you don't need a car as much as someone living the outer boroughs mentioned may feel that they do. Do people who live in West End actually use Oxford Street (I'm only half saying this tongue in cheek)? A lot of it seems full of naff sweet shops with an American theme, but my understanding is that Council leader Adam Hug is on the case. It's actually quite hard to prove who owns them, from what I've read in the Guardian. Can someone please explain the objection to pedestrianising it? My guess would be it would potentially divert traffic to nearby roads. I can imagine cabbies being the most anti, for obvious reasons, but not many of them live around these parts, surely? I wonder if our own Davıd Boothroyd supports pedestrianising. Could it be that, along with Uxbridge and ULEZ expansion to the Greater London boundary in 2023, this result, impacted as it would appear to be by proposals to pedestrianise Oxford Street is another seat lost due to one of the Mayor's schemes? Hilarious if so. Pedestrianising streets doesn't actually kill trade, like when George Street in Hove was pedestrianised in the 1990s. |
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Post by robert1 on Sept 20, 2024 4:42:18 GMT
The objection to pedestrianising for me (and a very large number of others) is how you find transport if you are disabled. Come out of any of the stores on a walking stick or crutches and then discover you need to get to ..... for a bus or taxi. No consideration of the disabled, the elderly etc. From my own experience on crutches the tube stations are a long way away. I tried it
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Post by sanders on Sept 20, 2024 4:47:10 GMT
Advance to Mayfair (in the ward).
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Post by minionofmidas on Sept 20, 2024 5:09:09 GMT
Here we all are awaiting Stockton. There is always one that comes last full numbers from St Neots too |
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