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Post by sanders on Aug 18, 2024 18:50:33 GMT
Does this work on a hereditary basis like the Earl Marshal Hmm, what happens when the Dukedom of Norfolk becomes extinct due to lack of legitimate heirs? Hereditary Peers by-election would be held. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 18, 2024 19:01:36 GMT
The Lib Dems did surprisingly well in NW Norfolk at the general election - for a seat they weren't challeninging in it must have been one of their biggest increases in vote share
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Post by sanders on Aug 18, 2024 19:07:51 GMT
The Lib Dems did surprisingly well in NW Norfolk at the general election - for a seat they weren't challeninging in it must have been one of their biggest increases in vote share Akshully they had some strength there. Only Tory to SDP defection (Brocklebank-Fowler). He got close back in 1983. Lib Dems fell back after that. But in NW Norfolk, LDs crumbled. North Norfolk was the reverse ofc. The seats aren't all that different. King's Lynn is probably more rundown though. But they used to be Labour. They voted similarly in the 1950s. The 1964 result was pretty similar. Why did they diverge - Norman Lamb. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 18, 2024 19:12:46 GMT
Yes I'm sure the near doubling of their vote in that constituency has nothing to do with strong showings in recent local by-elections and was all about nostalgia for Christopher Brocklebank Fowler ..
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Post by edgbaston on Aug 18, 2024 19:24:48 GMT
The Lib Dems did surprisingly well in NW Norfolk at the general election - for a seat they weren't challeninging in it must have been one of their biggest increases in vote share The northern part of this seat along the coast has very much gentrified and looks towards Wells, Holt, Fakenham. I wonder if a lot of the Liberal vote came from there. With Tory defectors in the southern Fens part of the seat going more to reform. I suspect Labour won the town handily. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 18, 2024 19:32:07 GMT
The Lib Dems did surprisingly well in NW Norfolk at the general election - for a seat they weren't challeninging in it must have been one of their biggest increases in vote share The northern part of this seat along the coast has very much gentrified and looks towards Wells, Holt, Fakenham. I wonder if a lot of the Liberal vote came from there. With Tory defectors in the southern Fens part of the seat going more to reform. I suspect Labour won the town handily. Obviously I don't know and there may have been a bit of spillover support from North Norfolk (then activists, such as they are, from that part of the seat are the most lkely to have gone and helped next door). My guess is that their strength was in and around some of the better parts of Kings Lynn where their candidate is a borough and county councillor. Also accounts for Labour's relative underperfromance in that seat. For sure they would have carried KIngs Lynn but by nothing like the kind of margin you might expect |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Aug 18, 2024 19:41:18 GMT
These threads have been curated by many people down the years, and it becomes something of an additional job . Thread curators have their own formats and rules, and if a particular user is known for starting and curating those, other users shouldn't encroach. Reactionary bugger, but I agree here "Reactionary bugger"? |
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Post by sanders on Aug 18, 2024 19:42:04 GMT
The northern part of this seat along the coast has very much gentrified and looks towards Wells, Holt, Fakenham. I wonder if a lot of the Liberal vote came from there. With Tory defectors in the southern Fens part of the seat going more to reform. I suspect Labour won the town handily. Obviously I don't know and there may have been a bit of spillover support from North Norfolk (then activists, such as they are, from that part of the seat are the most lkely to have gone and helped next door). My guess is that their strength was in and around some of the better parts of Kings Lynn where their candidate is a borough and county councillor. Also accounts for Labour's relative underperfromance in that seat. For sure they would have carried KIngs Lynn but by nothing like the kind of margin you might expect King’s Lynn seems a Farage-friendly area. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Aug 18, 2024 20:41:13 GMT
The LibDem candidate was a presumably quite prominent local councillor who a quick check suggests ran a 'none of the other candidates are even from round here' campaign, which I think explains most of it.
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Post by sanders on Aug 18, 2024 21:08:26 GMT
Reactionary bugger, but I agree here "Reactionary bugger"? I stand by what I said. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2024 8:17:29 GMT
Maybe you could explain it as well? |
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Post by batman on Aug 19, 2024 8:54:56 GMT
I'm very happy to report that I've reported the comment. It's part of a series of quite needlessly offensive & nasty comments towards a number of contributors. On its own it might not seem much but it's part of a pattern. Sometimes sharp language is needed & perfectly acceptable but this does not apply to the comments of this type he makes
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 19, 2024 9:31:30 GMT
London Fields BYRNE, Sarah (Independent) FRIEND, Peter Ivor (Liberal Democrat) GOOCH, George (Labour) MIKOLAJEWSKA, Diana Maria (Conservative) TAYLOR, Olivia Amber (Workers Party) An interesting one this & yet another by-election being called because a labour councillor has been involved in some sort of scandal but on this occasion we know the reason - he has been charged with sexual assault and resigned a month ago Sarah Byrne, a local resident, teacher and now the socialist Independent candidate is supported by Hackney Independent Group (a campaign for residents promoting policies to reduce poverty, inequality and improve the Borough's health and well-being). Byrne was selected to stand in the 2022 elections but was dumped at short notice she says for appearing in someone's social media post about a weapons firm. Another victim of a local council being forced to deselect left wingers on the orders of authoritarian Labour HQ. Byrne to run with support also from Green Party... but WPG standing which may detract from her vote. Looks like a Lab hold but Byrne will do well as there's an enormous amount of people out there who are disgusted at good candidates being terminated solely because of their support for Palestinian rights. George Galloway not interested in Left Unity? Say it ain't so! |
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 19, 2024 9:38:41 GMT
It ain't so. GG has on many public occasions called for a broad left coalition party Under him.
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Post by islington on Aug 19, 2024 9:42:15 GMT
It ain't so. GG has on many public occasions called for a broad left coalition party Err... Isn't that already in being? Called the 'Labour Party', if I'm not mistaken. |
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Post by batman on Aug 19, 2024 9:43:25 GMT
no, apparently we & the Tories are two cheeks of the same arse, according to the all-knowing & never exaggerating or abusive Galloway.
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 19, 2024 9:46:43 GMT
Again another falsehood. George Galloway publicly in the Novara Media interview clearly stated that he supports such a party with Corbyn as leader Then why is he standing against the Corbynite candidate in London Fields? |
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Post by matureleft on Aug 19, 2024 9:56:50 GMT
London Fields BYRNE, Sarah (Independent) FRIEND, Peter Ivor (Liberal Democrat) GOOCH, George (Labour) MIKOLAJEWSKA, Diana Maria (Conservative) TAYLOR, Olivia Amber (Workers Party) An interesting one this & yet another by-election being called because a labour councillor has been involved in some sort of scandal but on this occasion we know the reason - he has been charged with sexual assault and resigned a month ago Sarah Byrne, a local resident, teacher and now the socialist Independent candidate is supported by Hackney Independent Group (a campaign for residents promoting policies to reduce poverty, inequality and improve the Borough's health and well-being). Byrne was selected to stand in the 2022 elections but was dumped at short notice she says for appearing in someone's social media post about a weapons firm. Another victim of a local council being forced to deselect left wingers on the orders of authoritarian Labour HQ. Byrne to run with support also from Green Party... but WPG standing which may detract from her vote. Looks like a Lab hold but Byrne will do well as there's an enormous amount of people out there who are disgusted at good candidates being terminated solely because of their support for Palestinian rights. As always it depends what “support for Palestinian rights” actually means? The other element is the relevance of that to a local election? |
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 19, 2024 10:04:36 GMT
Again another falsehood. George Galloway publicly in the Novara Media interview clearly stated that he supports such a party with Corbyn as leader You actually believe everything that Galloway says? There's one born every minute I suppose  He may well be interested in such a "united" party - on the proviso that he gets to be the one who leads it. |
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Post by johnloony on Aug 19, 2024 10:06:24 GMT
But you’re a decadent bureaucratic revisionist lickspittle anyway, so who cares? |
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