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Post by finsobruce on Aug 19, 2024 10:09:36 GMT
I believe GG yes, one of our more honest straightforward political leaders. Matureleft... The Candidate Dumped is a high school teacher. so she's good enough to be a teacher but not good enough to stand as a local councillor. Often with these things it's not just about one issue and it's also using current climate for people to get rid of someone so they can have their mates with them. The Labour Party Right Now is acting like firms and companies used to behave in the 50s and 60s and 70s : nepotism, class based, favouritism, racism. High School?Is she commuting from America?
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Post by matureleft on Aug 19, 2024 10:18:16 GMT
I believe GG yes, one of our more honest straightforward political leaders. Matureleft... The Candidate Dumped is a high school teacher. so she's good enough to be a teacher but not good enough to stand as a local councillor. Often with these things it's not just about one issue and it's also using current climate for people to get rid of someone so they can have their mates with them. The Labour Party Right Now is acting like firms and companies used to behave in the 50s and 60s and 70s : nepotism, class based, favouritism, racism. You don’t answer the questions. 1. what does “support for Palestinian rights” mean in this context? I support a two-state solution with a viable Palestinian state. That presumably doesn’t count? 2. What can a council do to further whatever cause this actually is? I can just about see how an MP might do something (but with minimal impact) such as urging a halt in arms supply. But a councillor? That said I accept that there have been instances of exclusion on modest grounds. She may be one but you haven’t made the case. |
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Post by Tony Otim on Aug 19, 2024 10:28:37 GMT
I believe GG yes, one of our more honest straightforward political leaders. Matureleft... The Candidate Dumped is a high school teacher. so she's good enough to be a teacher but not good enough to stand as a local councillor. Often with these things it's not just about one issue and it's also using current climate for people to get rid of someone so they can have their mates with them. The Labour Party Right Now is acting like firms and companies used to behave in the 50s and 60s and 70s : nepotism, class based, favouritism, racism. High School?Is she commuting from America?
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Post by cathyc on Aug 19, 2024 10:31:05 GMT
I believe GG yes, one of our more honest straightforward political leaders. Matureleft... The Candidate Dumped is a high school teacher. so she's good enough to be a teacher but not good enough to stand as a local councillor. Often with these things it's not just about one issue and it's also using current climate for people to get rid of someone so they can have their mates with them. The Labour Party Right Now is acting like firms and companies used to behave in the 50s and 60s and 70s : nepotism, class based, favouritism, racism. If you say that Galloway is honest and straightforward then you probably support the 'honest and straightforward' outright bigotry he spouted in that interview. |
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Post by sanders on Aug 19, 2024 11:29:05 GMT
London Fields BYRNE, Sarah (Independent) FRIEND, Peter Ivor (Liberal Democrat) GOOCH, George (Labour) MIKOLAJEWSKA, Diana Maria (Conservative) TAYLOR, Olivia Amber (Workers Party) An interesting one this & yet another by-election being called because a labour councillor has been involved in some sort of scandal but on this occasion we know the reason - he has been charged with sexual assault and resigned a month ago Sarah Byrne, a local resident, teacher and now the socialist Independent candidate is supported by Hackney Independent Group (a campaign for residents promoting policies to reduce poverty, inequality and improve the Borough's health and well-being). Byrne was selected to stand in the 2022 elections but was dumped at short notice she says for appearing in someone's social media post about a weapons firm. Another victim of a local council being forced to deselect left wingers on the orders of authoritarian Labour HQ. Byrne to run with support also from Green Party... but WPG standing which may detract from her vote. Looks like a Lab hold but Byrne will do well as there's an enormous amount of people out there who are disgusted at good candidates being terminated solely because of their support for Palestinian rights. As a former resident of the Frampton Park Estate in Hackney I'm very surprised by the Greens not standing here. Given the big swings they got in De Beauvoir in 2022 and 2024's by-elections, I thought they would slam dunk Stoke Newington and edge this one out too. A very unusual move by an ascendant Green Party. |
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Post by greatkingrat on Aug 19, 2024 11:30:13 GMT
I believe GG yes, one of our more honest straightforward political leaders. Matureleft... The Candidate Dumped is a high school teacher. so she's good enough to be a teacher but not good enough to stand as a local councillor. Maybe she shouldn't be a teacher either? It's easier to sack a council candidate than a teacher. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2024 11:45:01 GMT
He's right. Little difference between Tories and the current Labour administration. Turnout at 59% at a GE and huge unprecedented successes for independents tell you that And upthread if it's being suggested that labour are left wing this is a complete joke...it's run by the middle class and upper middle classes with nationalisation supporters, ppl who want a £15 ph min wage, ppl who wish less NHS privatisation, Muslims and the working classes largely being excluded by methods of deselection, and more nefarious, underhand and sly, less obvious, methods. A £15/hour was never part of British politics until a group of people who absorb all their political knowledge and opinions from the US transferred it without bothering about the exchange rate. Though inflation has now made £15 slightly closer to being the realistic minimum, that specific number still isn't really mainstream on the British left |
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Post by sanders on Aug 19, 2024 11:48:04 GMT
Reactionary bugger, but I agree here "Reactionary bugger"? Reactionary as in you don't want this thread to change or the way it's done to change. Bugger because I don't really like you. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Aug 19, 2024 12:01:26 GMT
Reactionary as in you don't want this thread to change or the way it's done to change. Bugger because I don't really like you. I'm sure we all wish to convey our sympathy toward the Vice-Chairman of the Preston Bus Station Appreciation Society on his receiving this awful news. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Aug 19, 2024 12:04:02 GMT
I believe GG yes, one of our more honest straightforward political leaders. That's very kind, but I no longer consider myself a political leader. Oh, you meant Galloway!  |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 19, 2024 12:04:05 GMT
I believe GG yes, one of our more honest straightforward political leaders. Matureleft... The Candidate Dumped is a high school teacher. so she's good enough to be a teacher but not good enough to stand as a local councillor. Often with these things it's not just about one issue and it's also using current climate for people to get rid of someone so they can have their mates with them. The Labour Party Right Now is acting like firms and companies used to behave in the 50s and 60s and 70s : nepotism, class based, favouritism, racism. If you say that Galloway is honest and straightforward then you probably support the 'honest and straightforward' outright bigotry he spouted in that interview. Is this the same interview where he sets out his stall on gay and trans rights? |
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Post by sanders on Aug 19, 2024 12:04:15 GMT
London Fields will stay Labour IMO. The anti-Labour vote will split like it just did in Islington.
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Post by cathyc on Aug 19, 2024 12:24:52 GMT
If you say that Galloway is honest and straightforward then you probably support the 'honest and straightforward' outright bigotry he spouted in that interview. Is this the same interview where he sets out his stall on gay and trans rights? It is. His stall was duly set. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Aug 19, 2024 14:16:30 GMT
London Fields Byrne was selected to stand in the 2022 elections but was dumped at short notice she says for appearing in someone's social media post about a weapons firm. Another victim of a local council being forced to deselect left wingers on the orders of authoritarian Labour HQ. The notion that Hackney Labour needs orders from Labour HQ before taking a factional stance is, if nothing else, novel. |
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Post by mrsir on Aug 19, 2024 20:04:57 GMT
In North West Norfolk the Labour candidate been from London really didn’t help. I actually think they did quite poorly in Lynn, losing votes to the Lib Dems in nicer areas like South Wotton and a lot of people in North Lynn will have voted Reform. Labour need to do very well in Kings Lynn to have any chance of winning the seat.
The Lib Dem candidate Rob Colwell is a bit of a local eccentric… he thought he was going to win - based on his campaign you would not think there was a marginal next door. After the election he said he would continue to ‘act’ as the local MP.
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 20, 2024 12:35:35 GMT
I believe GG yes, one of our more honest straightforward political leaders. Its strange isn't it though - if what you say is true - that there are many *many* people who have known GG down the years and have pretty much the diametrically opposite opinion of him, this includes several who were at one time strong supporters just like you are now. As was once said of J H Wilson - but maybe even more justifiably in this case - "if he swallowed a sixpence he would s*** a corkscrew"  There is plentiful evidence that Gorgeous is a wrong 'un going back to his War On Want days four decades ago! |
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Post by matureleft on Aug 20, 2024 13:31:04 GMT
Galloway has been extremely consistent over decades and you can't say that about it awful lot of politicians - you certainly can't say that honestly about our current prime minister who has swapped, u-turned, changed his mind, gone back on things; denied that he said something when he's clearly said it on camera on numerous occasions. The evidence is there for all to see Is there merit in being 'extremely consistent over decades'? I'm nearly 70 (a few months younger than Galloway). If I held the same views as I did when I was 20 I'd be rather foolish. So many things have changed in that time, I have so much more information and experience on which to base my opinions. And I've always prized learning. If I don't learn something new every day, even now, that's a disappointment. I've changed my mind on a fair number of major issues and am proud of that. |
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Post by batman on Aug 20, 2024 14:27:10 GMT
Yes, I didn't really change my views for many decades, but feel that events have forced me to reconsider some of them - not least the fact that Ukraine got rid of its nuclear weapons and then got invaded. My alignment within my party isn't quite the same as what it was and I am absolutely not ashamed of that, although there are people I admired when I was on the factional left that I still admire today.
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Post by carolus on Sept 1, 2024 19:28:53 GMT
The Lib Dem position in the Kings Lynn & West Norfolk district is quite strange, in that over the last few years the electoral record when they've actually stood has been surprisingly good, but there seems to be a significant lack of candidates. In the May 2021 County elections they had candidates in six of twelve divisions with no particular success (a couple of not very close second places). There were then byelection gains on big swings in Gaywood South (Jul 2021), Gaywood North & Central (Dec 2022), and Freebridge Lynn (Aug 2023). And pretty reasonable performances in the other two byelections. And in the May 2023 district elections there were a grand total of seven candidates, of whom three were elected, two more were less than twenty votes off, a third was less than forty, and the last was 112 away. But note, perhaps that the two new DC councillors in 2023 were the same people that won the two Gaywood CC byelections, and one if the narrow misses (in the same ward) was the winner of the original Freebridge Lynn byelection, whose death has triggered this one. The third DC councillor was the losing candidate in one of the other CC byelections. The NW Norfolk result was alright, too (+6.9%), albeit still fourth. (And of course the candidate was one of double-hatters) And now no candidate in a defence. It seems a strange situation to have ended up in. I would also note the absence of a Green candidate where the same candidate has stood repeatedly in all recent elections and was the candidate in the GE so is clearly still active. I do, therefore, wonder whether the Greens and possibly Lib Dems are tacitly supporting the indy?
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Post by ricmk on Sept 1, 2024 22:01:39 GMT
MILTON KEYNES UA; Bletchley East (Lab resigned following election as MP for Milton Keynes Central) Candidates: BRADY, Ray (Independent) FRENCH, Joe (Green) MARLOW, James Richard Alan (Conservative) McCABE, Sean (Liberal Democrat) SAINT-CLAIR, Alfred (Heritage) SODEN, Saskia (Labour) 2024: Lab 1614; Con 604; Ind 316; Grn 228; LD 166 2023: Lab 1602; Con 716; LD 191; Grn 157; RefUK 154 2022: Lab 1607; Con 951; LD 275; Grn 256 2021: Lab 1515; Con 1332; Grn 303; Ind 225; LD 98; UKIP 83 2019: Lab 1176; Con 796; Grn 473; LD 139 Jul 18by: Lab 1355; Con 1026; Grn 131; UKIP 101; LD 50 2018: Lab 1483; Con 1218; Grn 249; LD 154 2016: Lab 1434, 1088; UKIP 972; Con 872, 659; LD 190, 130 2015: Lab 2105; Con 1950; UKIP 1203; Grn 304; LD 239 2014: Lab 1175, 1078, 1056; UKIP 1077, 852; Con 899; Grn 444, 412, 316; LD 121, 97 Vacancy is for the 2023-27 term. Ray Brady (Ind) stood in the Buckingham & Bletchley constituency at the recent General Election, whilst Alfred Saint-Clair (Heritage) stood in Milton Keynes Central. Brady stood in Loughton & Shenley ward in May (having also contested the by-election there the previous year), whilst Saint Clair stood in Broughton. James Marlow (Con) and Sean McCabe (LD) stood in this ward in May and also in 2023 and 2022, with McCabe also having stood here in 2021. Joe French (Grn) stood here in 2022 and in Central Milton Keynes this May, whilst Saskia Soden (Lab) stood in Newport Pagnell South. Current Council: Lab 29; LD 18; Con 9; 1 vacancy A couple of notes on this one - caused by Emily Darlington's election to parliament for MK Central. It's a ward covering the working class Bletchley Lakes estate - due for significant regeneration which now has planning permission and is well advanced, historic but not that well off Fenny Stratford, and new estate Newton Leys which straddles the border with Buckinghamshire. It's become a safe Labour seat but note that UKIP win in 2014 - there's a significant anti-establishment vote here and I'm not sure where that goes this time, Reform would do well here. While Ray Brady and Alfred Saint-Clair both come from that stable, they are perennial also-ran candidates and neither has shown they have any strength or knowledge about running a proper campaign. The Lib Dems don't have any real interest here and won't campaign. The Greens did have this as their target ward in the borough one year. I can't remember when it was, and it's not like you can work it out from the results - I'd be surprised if there's anything doing here for them. So the only parties I'd expect to get any serious votes are Lab and Con. The Labour candidate stood in the Newport Pagnell by-election this time last year, getting a second place that looked better on paper than it was. She lives miles from the ward and doesn't seem like a natural fit for this one in the slightest. I believe she has a new job working for a newly elected MP. Although the Tories haven't won the ward on these boundaries, they did win a predecessor ward at the top of their popularity in the early 2010s. They seem to have little infrastructure here, and greatly diminished campaigning strength across the city, as well as licking the wounds of losing the three parliamentary seats to Labour. I don't know their candidate (presumably related to former mayor Amanda Marlow.) So my guess is that the turnout is very low, Labour win pretty much by default, but the Tories show some signs of life. |
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