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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 13, 2024 11:19:20 GMT
What is Zemmour's principal objection to an electoral pact on the Right?
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Post by right on Jun 13, 2024 11:25:35 GMT
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Post by rcronald on Jun 13, 2024 11:26:53 GMT
It’s also related to Zemmour attacking RN nonstop. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 13, 2024 11:27:28 GMT
What is Zemmour's principal objection to an electoral pact on the Right? Arguably it's about control and not wanting to be seen to be subordinate to MLP. Although from what Marion Le Pen said this morning, it sounds like the RN were happy to take anyone but Zemmour himself. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 13, 2024 11:29:12 GMT
Disappointing, but in practice shouldn't effect the outcome in too many seats I should have thought
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Post by markfoster on Jun 13, 2024 11:30:48 GMT
Now Reconquête has fractured, with Marion Maréchal and others breaking with Zemmour and calling for the national right to vote "coalition", which now appears dead in the water after today's events. What a wonderful mess this is all turning out to be. Not just a break, he has now formally expelled her. Which is what she wanted. But what will Zemmour's boss Bolloré do now? Macron may be fortunate with his opponents, but he seems to have the measure of them. He gave the right a chance with a surprise move, and they reacted by pressing the self-destruct button. The French left seems to be getting its act together, but it's brave man who underestimates their ability to cock things up. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 13, 2024 11:37:09 GMT
An interesting point from Le Figaro.
Brittany has traditionally been rather averse to the RN (despite the Le Pens being Breton in origin). But the European election saw them take 25 per cent of the vote in Finisterre, compared to 15 in 2019.
Scope for surprise wins in unexpected locations? Or some first-round wins in the more obvious locations down in the Midi?
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 13, 2024 11:41:45 GMT
Not just a break, he has now formally expelled her. Which is what she wanted. But what will Zemmour's boss Bolloré do now? Macron may be fortunate with his opponents, but he seems to have the measure of them. He gave the right a chance with a surprise move, and they reacted by pressing the self-destruct button. The French left seems to be getting its act together, but it's brave man who underestimates their ability to cock things up. Well, at least 6 of them have declared that they should be prime minister today, so your suspicion might prove to be correct very quickly! |
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Post by rcronald on Jun 13, 2024 11:49:40 GMT
Macron may be fortunate with his opponents, but he seems to have the measure of them. He gave the right a chance with a surprise move, and they reacted by pressing the self-destruct button. The French left seems to be getting its act together, but it's brave man who underestimates their ability to cock things up. Well, at least 6 of them have declared that they should be prime minister today, so your suspicion might prove to be correct very quickly! LFI already announced that the negotiations are now suspended… |
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Post by right on Jun 13, 2024 11:55:08 GMT
Well, at least 6 of them have declared that they should be prime minister today, so your suspicion might prove to be correct very quickly! LFI already announced that the negotiations are now suspended… Can Melanthon's party get to lots of second rounds without allies on the left? Even if they can this would surely help the right and centre |
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Post by rcronald on Jun 13, 2024 11:57:27 GMT
LFI already announced that the negotiations are now suspended… Can Melanthon's party get to lots of second rounds without allies on the left? Even if they can this would surely help the right and centre LFI is generally toxic outside of the Banlieues. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 13, 2024 12:09:14 GMT
You couldn't make it up. Macron has just warned voters that instability could have a massive effect on bonds, interest rates and the markets.
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Post by rcronald on Jun 13, 2024 12:11:00 GMT
You couldn't make it up. Macron has just warned voters that instability could have a massive effect on bonds, interest rates and the markets. Maybe he shouldn’t have called a snap election when the polls showed his party in 3rd place… 🤔 |
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 13, 2024 12:14:29 GMT
What is Zemmour's principal objection to an electoral pact on the Right? That he wouldn't be leading it? |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jun 13, 2024 12:22:11 GMT
What is Zemmour's principal objection to an electoral pact on the Right? That he wouldn't be leading it? This is the core factor to around 90% of disputes and bust-ups in French political life. |
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Post by rcronald on Jun 13, 2024 12:30:05 GMT
Looks like a rebellion is brewing for PS in Occitania.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 13, 2024 13:13:27 GMT
Looks like a rebellion is brewing for PS in Occitania. Just saw that. Carole Dega is not happy. She was also on the list of people mentioned as a PM (but not one of the ones who suggested herself). For those who haven't seen it, she's said that Melenchon is not an acceptable choice for PM. |
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Post by rcronald on Jun 13, 2024 13:14:48 GMT
Looks like a rebellion is brewing for PS in Occitania. Just saw that. Carole Dega is not happy. She was also on the list of people mentioned as a PM (but not one of the ones who suggested herself). For those who haven't seen it, she's said that Melenchon is not an acceptable choice for PM. Her deputy is even more unhappy, he’s outright opposed to the alliance. |
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Post by Kristofer Keane on Jun 13, 2024 14:02:55 GMT
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Post by relique on Jun 13, 2024 16:30:52 GMT
Looks like a rebellion is brewing for PS in Occitania.
The question is wether the previous rebellious PS would get a nomination this time and if local PS can brew rebellion in a few other places... At some point, they should probably give it up already. They should vye for all incumbents (including people who ARE NOT in the PS grouping) to be supported and suggest a few constituencies to get in their region. PS got 100 more (and LFI 100 less) so there should be probably 5-15 in the region. That's plenty.
Delga was quite clearly in favor of the union.
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