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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 7, 2024 20:45:53 GMT
Relatively unchanged but still hefty. Two parties who parrot his lines holding a large number of seats, and a completely hung assembly causing chaos...he couldn't have scripted it better. you were you like this in 2022? Not sure what you're asking- are you asking did I have the same view of the parties in 2022? |
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Post by edgbaston on Jul 7, 2024 20:47:41 GMT
Narrative meltdown alert!
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 7, 2024 20:51:07 GMT
you were you like this in 2022? Not sure what you're asking- are you asking did I have the same view of the parties in 2022? no just that the results aren't really much different from 2022 apart from Macron throwing away 150 seats ofc mostly to PS and the greens. Just seems like an over reaction |
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Post by andrea on Jul 7, 2024 20:54:27 GMT
NFP 141 MPs
Other Left 10
Ensemble 137
Other Centrist 6
RN (dont LR-RN) 135
LR 38
Other Right 15
Régionalistes 4
Others 1
Still to finish: 90 seats
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Post by andrea on Jul 7, 2024 20:57:15 GMT
Sarah El Haïry, education minister, beaten by PS in Loire-Atlantique 5
PS 39.91%
ENS 37.38%
LR-RN 22.7%
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Post by andrea on Jul 7, 2024 20:59:07 GMT
Nicolas Dupont-Aignan lost his seat to an Insoumise
LFI 40.52%
NDA 37.48%
LR 22%
Round 1 was
LFI 34.37
NDA 32.96
LR 27.38
Other 3.42
Far left 0.87
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Post by andrea on Jul 7, 2024 21:06:31 GMT
Danielle SIMONNET is getting over 75% against the official NFP candidate (90% reported)
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 7, 2024 21:12:32 GMT
Danielle SIMONNET is getting over 75% against the official NFP candidate (90% reported) Nice to see that the LFP dissidents are having a good evening against the Mélenchon acolytes. |
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Post by andrea on Jul 7, 2024 21:15:34 GMT
Olivier Véran has lost his seat
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 7, 2024 21:17:05 GMT
Danielle SIMONNET is getting over 75% against the official NFP candidate (90% reported) Nice to see that the LFP dissidents are having a good evening against the Mélenchon acolytes. this is ironic though, she was NUPES candidate against the PS dissident in 2022 |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Jul 7, 2024 21:21:45 GMT
Well, anyone can be named prime minister. The endgame is : Can they survive a censure motion. Mélenchon cannot, that's for sure. But don't underestimate the willingness by Macron to throw fuel to the left's starting fire... But it will be difficult to see who Can survive. On the right I don't see Edouard Philippe not calling for a censure against RN. On the center I don't see PS not censuring a macron-lr prime minister. The only possibility would be Macronists approving a left of center NFP prime minister.
But anyway: A few RN incumbents were beaten today. In Vaucluse, Gironde, Nord for exemple. Which would seem the obvious solution, if they can find someone from (probably) PS? |
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Post by andrea on Jul 7, 2024 21:23:14 GMT
Charles de Courson* is back. Again. MP since 1993
50.42% vs 49,58 % for RN
* Full name is Charles Amédée Simon du Buisson de Courson
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Post by andrea on Jul 7, 2024 21:28:19 GMT
from Le Monde map
NFP 165 MPs
Other Left 11
Ensemble 149
Other Centrist 6
RN (dont LR-RN) 140
LR 44
Other Right 15
Régionalistes 4
Others 1 (actually he is a leftish from outre-mer)
Still to finish counting: 42 seats
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 7, 2024 21:32:10 GMT
Charles de Courson* is back. Again. MP since 1993 50.42% vs 49,58 % for RN * Full name is Charles Amédée Simon du Buisson de Courson His name was being touted as a possible PM. Apparently he is quite popular across the political spectrum within the assembly. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 7, 2024 21:33:04 GMT
Well, anyone can be named prime minister. The endgame is : Can they survive a censure motion. Mélenchon cannot, that's for sure. But don't underestimate the willingness by Macron to throw fuel to the left's starting fire... But it will be difficult to see who Can survive. On the right I don't see Edouard Philippe not calling for a censure against RN. On the center I don't see PS not censuring a macron-lr prime minister. The only possibility would be Macronists approving a left of center NFP prime minister.
But anyway: A few RN incumbents were beaten today. In Vaucluse, Gironde, Nord for exemple. Which would seem the obvious solution, if they can find someone from (probably) PS? Maybe not in the assembly, but maybe Macron can channel Starmer and hire someone from outside? There are some well-known PS figures of the past who might fit the profile. |
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Post by relique on Jul 7, 2024 21:33:42 GMT
Charles de Courson* is back. Again. MP since 1993 50.42% vs 49,58 % for RN * Full name is Charles Amédée Simon du Buisson de Courson His name was being touted as a possible PM. Apparently he is quite popular across the political spectrum within the assembly. I think he'll try to get the président of the assembly job. It's safest. With no real problems. |
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Post by relique on Jul 7, 2024 21:35:09 GMT
from Le Monde map NFP 165 MPs Other Left 11 Ensemble 149 Other Centrist 6 RN (dont LR-RN) 140 LR 44 Other Right 15 Régionalistes 4 Others 1 (actually he is a leftish from outre-mer) Still to finish counting: 42 seats Mostly parisian seats (or Close to ) and mostly NFP. Except for hauts de seine of course. |
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Post by towerhamlets on Jul 7, 2024 21:35:37 GMT
not gonna happen 'Melenchon won't be PM' - Ruffin Méluche doesn't care about things like that. After all, he doesn't allow internal elections within LFI, and he thinks he is the Republic, so other people having opinions is not something he's willing to accept. It's very funny to see people express anger at Mélenchon for these reasons as if they don't apply to every politician in the history of France. |
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Post by relique on Jul 7, 2024 21:39:06 GMT
Well, we can all go dance all night, now. Meyer Habib lost his seat. Finally.
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