andrea
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Post by andrea on Jul 7, 2024 19:48:52 GMT
Alexis Corbière is on telly saying he has won agains the official LF1 candidate
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Post by observer on Jul 7, 2024 19:49:37 GMT
He apparently thinks that anyone who is not a slava-ukraini fascist is a Russian bot. A very simple worldview that reflects his limited cognitive abilities. Like a nervous tic |
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 7, 2024 20:05:26 GMT
Does it look like Ens+LR+PS is going to be enough for a majority? PS is no way getting into bed with LR let alone Ens |
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Post by cogload on Jul 7, 2024 20:06:11 GMT
Sarthe Marie Caroline Le Pen 39.26% NFP 25.94% ENS 25-88% Round 2 Mme Elise LEBOUCHER 50.23% Mme Marie-Caroline LE PEN 49.77% 😬 |
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 7, 2024 20:06:41 GMT
The euro has dropped heavily in the last hour and a half. JLM appears to be calling to be made PM of a minority government and given the right to use Article 49.3 to force through laws. An instrument he criticised bitterly when Borne did it. not gonna happen 'Melenchon won't be PM' - Ruffin |
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Post by rcronald on Jul 7, 2024 20:11:16 GMT
The euro has dropped heavily in the last hour and a half. JLM appears to be calling to be made PM of a minority government and given the right to use Article 49.3 to force through laws. An instrument he criticised bitterly when Borne did it. not gonna happen 'Melenchon won't be PM' - Ruffin Even though I personally disagree with him on almost everything, Ruffin himself would be a decent candidate. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 7, 2024 20:14:41 GMT
The euro has dropped heavily in the last hour and a half. JLM appears to be calling to be made PM of a minority government and given the right to use Article 49.3 to force through laws. An instrument he criticised bitterly when Borne did it. not gonna happen 'Melenchon won't be PM' - Ruffin Méluche doesn't care about things like that. After all, he doesn't allow internal elections within LFI, and he thinks he is the Republic, so other people having opinions is not something he's willing to accept. |
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Post by andrea on Jul 7, 2024 20:22:39 GMT
Vanclouse 1
NFP had a LFI candidate who is apparently ticked as "dangereux" in the police files.
Round 1
Mme Catherine JAOUEN RN 34,62 QUALIF T2
M. Raphaël ARNAULT UG 24,76 QUALIF T2
M. Philippe PASCAL DVG 18,27 NON
Mme Malika DI FRAJA ENS 16,12 NON
M. Johan COURTOIS LR 3,24 NON
M. Philippe TOUTAIN REC ì 1,32 NON
Mme Christine CHATENAY REG 0,87 NON
M. Eddine GHOUALI EXG 0,80 NON
Round 2
M. Raphaël ARNAULT UG 54,98 OUI
Mme Catherine JAOUEN RN 45,02 NON
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Post by batman on Jul 7, 2024 20:24:19 GMT
My thoughts exactly. Relief at RN being barred from power, but where do we go from here? Whatever it is, it needs to keep the extreme left out as well. JLM as PM would be a nightmare. it's really weird. JLM to me means Jewish Labour Movement & LFI means Labour Friends of Israel  (the two have many members in common, but I am in JLM & not LFI) |
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 7, 2024 20:25:49 GMT
not gonna happen 'Melenchon won't be PM' - Ruffin Méluche doesn't care about things like that. After all, he doesn't allow internal elections within LFI, and he thinks he is the Republic, so other people having opinions is not something he's willing to accept. it's pretty straightforward, you need parliamentary support. He doesn't have it in the LFI let alone the NPF |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 7, 2024 20:26:27 GMT
Putin won't be too displeased. His other dog in the race came through. |
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 7, 2024 20:27:49 GMT
Putin won't be too displeased. His other dog in the race came through. but they didn't though LFIs numbers are fairly unchanged |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 7, 2024 20:28:33 GMT
Whatever it is, it needs to keep the extreme left out as well. JLM as PM would be a nightmare. it's really weird. JLM to me means Jewish Labour Movement & LFI means Labour Friends of Israel (the two have many members in common, but I am in JLM & not LFI) Didn't think about that! Saves me a hassle typing it out. There is of course a certain grim irony about JLM and JLM having the same initials... |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 7, 2024 20:30:00 GMT
Putin won't be too displeased. His other dog in the race came through. but they didn't though LFIs numbers are fairly unchanged Relatively unchanged but still hefty. Two parties who parrot his lines holding a large number of seats, and a completely hung assembly causing chaos...he couldn't have scripted it better. |
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Post by rcronald on Jul 7, 2024 20:30:28 GMT
Vanclouse 1 NFP had a LFI candidate who is apparently ticked as "dangereux" in the police files. Round 1 Mme Catherine JAOUEN RN 34,62 QUALIF T2 M. Raphaël ARNAULT UG 24,76 QUALIF T2 M. Philippe PASCAL DVG 18,27 NON Mme Malika DI FRAJA ENS 16,12 NON M. Johan COURTOIS LR 3,24 NON M. Philippe TOUTAIN REC ì 1,32 NON Mme Christine CHATENAY REG 0,87 NON M. Eddine GHOUALI EXG 0,80 NON Round 2 M. Raphaël ARNAULT UG 54,98 OUI Mme Catherine JAOUEN RN 45,02 NON Vote for the violent thug to ‘save the republic’… |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 7, 2024 20:31:08 GMT
Méluche doesn't care about things like that. After all, he doesn't allow internal elections within LFI, and he thinks he is the Republic, so other people having opinions is not something he's willing to accept. it's pretty straightforward, you need parliamentary support. He doesn't have it in the LFI let alone the NPF For clarity, I am well aware that Mélenchon can't become prime minister. What I am noting is that this will not stop him making the demand. Which he essentially has done this evening. |
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andrea
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Post by andrea on Jul 7, 2024 20:33:20 GMT
The minister for public administration Stanislas Guerini has been beaten by Léa Balage El Marik of NFP
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 7, 2024 20:34:05 GMT
but they didn't though LFIs numbers are fairly unchanged Relatively unchanged but still hefty. Two parties who parrot his lines holding a large number of seats, and a completely hung assembly causing chaos...he couldn't have scripted it better. you were you like this in 2022? |
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 7, 2024 20:34:47 GMT
it's pretty straightforward, you need parliamentary support. He doesn't have it in the LFI let alone the NPF For clarity, I am well aware that Mélenchon can't become prime minister. What I am noting is that this will not stop him making the demand. Which he essentially has done this evening. who carers though, I'll demand being french pm for all it matters |
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Post by relique on Jul 7, 2024 20:45:44 GMT
Well, anyone can be named prime minister. The endgame is : Can they survive a censure motion. Mélenchon cannot, that's for sure. But don't underestimate the willingness by Macron to throw fuel to the left's starting fire...
But it will be difficult to see who Can survive. On the right I don't see Edouard Philippe not calling for a censure against RN. On the center I don't see PS not censuring a macron-lr prime minister.
The only possibility would be Macronists approving a left of center NFP prime minister.
But anyway:
A few RN incumbents were beaten today. In Vaucluse, Gironde, Nord for exemple.
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(the two have many members in common, but I am in JLM & not LFI)