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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2024 18:02:20 GMT
Le Figaro puts NPF ahead on 180-215, Ensemble 150-180 and RN 120-150
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 7, 2024 18:02:33 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 7, 2024 18:03:30 GMT
Perhaps Macron's gamble did in fact come off?
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 7, 2024 18:03:51 GMT
Well this is a turn-up. Still a disaster for Manu, just a different one.
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Post by andrea on Jul 7, 2024 18:04:11 GMT
Hollande elected
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Post by rcronald on Jul 7, 2024 18:04:15 GMT
Perhaps Macron's gamble did in fact come off? By tanking the economy and frightening the wealthy into exodus? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2024 18:04:45 GMT
In less good news for the French left.... |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 7, 2024 18:06:07 GMT
Perhaps Macron's gamble did in fact come off? If he can find a way to splinter the NFP, yes. But if he can't find a government to cobble together...and if Melenchon demands to be PM...it's still a disaster. |
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Post by andrea on Jul 7, 2024 18:07:54 GMT
Gauche equally split between LFI and PS
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Post by rcronald on Jul 7, 2024 18:08:04 GMT
Perhaps Macron's gamble did in fact come off? If he can find a way to splinter the NFP, yes. But if he can't find a government to cobble together...and if Melenchon demands to be PM...it's still a disaster. They would have been in a better position if Attal didn’t essentially force him into legitimising LFI. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2024 18:11:54 GMT
Perhaps Macron's gamble did in fact come off? If he can find a way to splinter the NFP, yes. But if he can't find a government to cobble together... and if Melenchon demands to be PM...it's still a disaster. which he already has in very blunt terms |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 7, 2024 18:15:25 GMT
If he can find a way to splinter the NFP, yes. But if he can't find a government to cobble together... and if Melenchon demands to be PM...it's still a disaster. which he already has in very blunt terms Yes, his rambling speech is quite dreadful. Much demagogue-ing. Edit: in fact he's said there will be not be a coalition with the Macronie. He presumably has not had that conversation with anyone else, but he doesn't accept dissent, so that wouldn't be a shock. |
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Post by rcronald on Jul 7, 2024 18:16:38 GMT
which he already has in very blunt terms Yes, his rambling speech is quite dreadful. Much demagogue-ing. but the fascistsssssss. I can’t even begin to describe my disgust with Attal and to a lesser extent with Braun-Pivet. |
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Post by right on Jul 7, 2024 18:16:38 GMT
If he can find a way to splinter the NFP, yes. But if he can't find a government to cobble together... and if Melenchon demands to be PM...it's still a disaster. which he already has in very blunt terms Can he force this on the rest of the left? |
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 7, 2024 18:17:25 GMT
Melenchon won't be PM, NPF parliamentary group will vote amongst their number as to who will be their candidate. Likely to be the Greens leader. The centre left parties won't touch Manu with a barge pole.
Problem now is if NPF do enter the prime ministership they will struggle to pass anything
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Post by andrea on Jul 7, 2024 18:18:19 GMT
Looks like Ruffin has been beaten by RN
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 7, 2024 18:19:31 GMT
Yes, his rambling speech is quite dreadful. Much demagogue-ing. but the fascistsssssss. I can’t even begin to describe my disgust with Attal and to a lesser extent with Braun-Pivet. I think you need not worry. The fear that RN would achieve an overall majority has been replaced with a minority left who will be able to do very little |
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Post by right on Jul 7, 2024 18:20:16 GMT
Melenchon won't be PM, NPF parliamentary group will vote amongst their number as to who will be their candidate. Likely to be the Greens leader. The centre left parties won't touch Manu with a barge pole. Problem now is if NPF do enter the prime ministership they will struggle to pass anything Doesn't Manu have enough patronage to win over enough of the moderate left for a wider centrist coalition? If not then surely the gamble has failed, even if it's spiked RN for now. |
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 7, 2024 18:20:52 GMT
Looks like Ruffin has been beaten by RN that's a blow to the centre left |
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Post by andrea on Jul 7, 2024 18:21:49 GMT
Elisabeth Borne 56%
RN 44%
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