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Post by rcronald on Jun 20, 2024 11:40:00 GMT
Bruno Le Maire has said that there is no room for manoeuvre in the budget. Which obviously he would do, because that is what the Macronistas have left to play with. He's also claiming that the government will attempt to renegotiate electric prices with EdF. Which surely is unnecessary - after all, Manu bravely turned EdF from a private company (of which 83 per cent was owned by the State, and the president picked the boss), to a fully nationalised entity. It’s almost like Macron and his cabinet weren’t fiscally responsible as well! 😱😱😱
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 20, 2024 12:02:38 GMT
Bruno Le Maire has said that there is no room for manoeuvre in the budget. Which obviously he would do, because that is what the Macronistas have left to play with. He's also claiming that the government will attempt to renegotiate electric prices with EdF. Which surely is unnecessary - after all, Manu bravely turned EdF from a private company (of which 83 per cent was owned by the State, and the president picked the boss), to a fully nationalised entity. It’s almost like Macron and his cabinet weren’t fiscally responsible as well! 😱😱😱 And it's almost as if the 17 per cent private shareholdings in EdF wasn't a controlling stake!
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 21, 2024 6:58:27 GMT
Today's roundup.
- Macron has claimed that his party is on for an absolute majority. - Édouard Philippe seems to have turned on Manu in an interview on TF1. - a RN candidate down in Loire (i.e. Saint-Etienne) has been beaten up on a stand at a market. - NFP presents its economic programme this afternoon. - Mélenchon has done an interview with Le Figaro today (not normally a publication sympathetic to him!)
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 21, 2024 12:26:42 GMT
NFP manifesto out. 25 billion of extra spending by 2025, 150 billion by 2027. These are their figures, rather than costings alleged elsewhere.
Quite how they will spend this and close the deficit is anyone's idea. But presumably it will involve Melenchon ranting about the Germans.
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Post by rcronald on Jun 21, 2024 13:52:45 GMT
NFP manifesto out. 25 billion of extra spending by 2025, 150 billion by 2027. These are their figures, rather than costings alleged elsewhere. Quite how they will spend this and close the deficit is anyone's idea. But presumably it will involve Melenchon ranting about the Germans. It’s pretty funny seeing RN doing as much as it can to detoxify itself with fiscal conservatives, and NFP doing the exact opposite…
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Post by relique on Jun 21, 2024 17:56:42 GMT
NFP manifesto out. 25 billion of extra spending by 2025, 150 billion by 2027. These are their figures, rather than costings alleged elsewhere. Quite how they will spend this and close the deficit is anyone's idea. But presumably it will involve Melenchon ranting about the Germans. They actually did say where they will take the extra money and what they will spend on.
In their last meetings, they had the support of Thomas Piketty, Esther Duflo, Gabriel Zucman...
To sum up, they have quite a "conservative" view of fiscal policy: come back to 14 income tax degrees (we have a progressive income tax, so as they said they won't rise the ratio for the current income tax degrees, only the wealthiest of the wealthiest will be called into solidarity so that they actually give at least as much tax as the middle class), they will transform CSG for it to become progressive (thus alleviating the tax burden for half the population) and reinstigate the tax on wealth that Macron suppressed once he took office.
Basically, they will cancel 7 years of giving away money to the wealthiest of the wealthiest.
They have an online toy to calculate current taxes and future taxes. According to it, I'll gain about 750€ from their tax plan (thank's to CSG going from about 2,800 to 2,000 euros)
They say they will spend it on wages (public servants will get a 10% boost as they have been quite forgotten during this inflation crisis and in the last 20 years), health and education.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 23, 2024 11:30:54 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 23, 2024 21:34:42 GMT
Lionel Jospin has suddenly emerged and has launched quite an attack on his former employee Melenchon.
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Post by rcronald on Jun 24, 2024 6:04:30 GMT
Lionel Jospin has suddenly emerged and has launched quite an attack on his former employee Melenchon. Didn’t he endorse the alliance just a few days ago?
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Post by rcronald on Jun 24, 2024 6:07:01 GMT
Laurent Berger just confirmed that he’s not going to be in the running for PM if NFP wins the election.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 24, 2024 7:00:06 GMT
Lionel Jospin has suddenly emerged and has launched quite an attack on his former employee Melenchon. Didn’t he endorse the alliance just a few days ago? He did. It's a bit like the footballers (Mbappe and Tchouameni at least) who have asked voters to not vote for the extremes. There are a lot of people who will happily vote for all manner of left party in the NFP - but not LFI. Who increasingly resemble a cult of the leader. Jospin even notes that JLM is a very different character to even ten years ago.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 24, 2024 7:00:34 GMT
Laurent Berger just confirmed that he’s not going to be in the running for PM if NFP wins the election. He's just about the only person to not say they'd make a great PM!
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Post by rcronald on Jun 24, 2024 7:05:19 GMT
Didn’t he endorse the alliance just a few days ago? He did. It's a bit like the footballers (Mbappe and Tchouameni at least) who have asked voters to not vote for the extremes. There are a lot of people who will happily vote for all manner of left party in the NFP - but not LFI. Who increasingly resemble a cult of the leader. Jospin even notes that JLM is a very different character to even ten years ago. I have a feeling that LFI is going to perform quite poorly in the 2nd round.
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Post by relique on Jun 24, 2024 9:28:35 GMT
Didn’t he endorse the alliance just a few days ago? He did. It's a bit like the footballers (Mbappe and Tchouameni at least) who have asked voters to not vote for the extremes. There are a lot of people who will happily vote for all manner of left party in the NFP - but not LFI. Who increasingly resemble a cult of the leader. Jospin even notes that JLM is a very different character to even ten years ago. Jospin also said most LFI candidates are republican and should be supported...
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Post by relique on Jun 24, 2024 9:31:53 GMT
He did. It's a bit like the footballers (Mbappe and Tchouameni at least) who have asked voters to not vote for the extremes. There are a lot of people who will happily vote for all manner of left party in the NFP - but not LFI. Who increasingly resemble a cult of the leader. Jospin even notes that JLM is a very different character to even ten years ago. I have a feeling that LFI is going to perform quite poorly in the 2nd round. They will, depending on the constituency... In some areas, even with 9% national, they were leaders. They won't be underpolling in areas who clearly were motivated by Rima Hassan's presence on the european list. But elsewhere, I agree and the candidates who put the lider massimo front and center will get trounced in rural-non ultra urban France...
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 24, 2024 10:40:02 GMT
Bardella has just made some comments about Russia that seem like a major change of attitude for the RN. Most notably he intimates that Moscow has a hand in the small boats travelling from Comoros to Mayotte.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 24, 2024 20:48:16 GMT
More fun and games tonight.
Mélenchon has told Hollande to shut up. He's also started referring to himself in the third person and comparing himself to Jean Jaurès.
Manu has claimed that a vote for RN or LFI is a vote for civil war.
The Mulliez family, owners of Auchan and others, have called for a responsible vote against extremists. The Mulliez still have a lot of business in Russia.
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Post by rcronald on Jun 24, 2024 20:49:47 GMT
More fun and games tonight. Mélenchon has told Hollande to shut up. He's also started referring to himself in the third person and comparing himself to Jean Jaurès. Manu has claimed that a vote for RN or LFI is a vote for civil war. The Mulliez family, owners of Auchan and others, have called for a responsible vote against extremists. The Mulliez still have a lot of business in Russia. The more the rich and famous call for a vote ‘against the extremes’ the more they will rise…
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Post by right on Jun 25, 2024 6:46:15 GMT
Is the best outcome for Manu a year of utter instability to frighten voters to the centre?
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 25, 2024 7:05:13 GMT
It might work, but French voters will also very likely turn on him further for provoking the instability.
The Fourth Republic was unstable because of its design. The Fifth gives one man the power to make it unstable. Which he has taken.
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