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Post by cathyc on Jun 19, 2024 20:48:16 GMT
So you are ambivalent about (in your own words) 'fake snake oil'? Would you have an opinion one way or the other if the snake oil was real? I have no opinion about whether snakes exist or not, or whether they eat oil or not, or whether the oil which they may or may not eat may or may not exist. It was your comment about 'fake snake oil' in the first place. Is that snake oil that is fake or real oil for fake snakes? I think we should be told. |
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Post by yellowperil on Jun 19, 2024 21:15:01 GMT
I have no opinion about whether snakes exist or not, or whether they eat oil or not, or whether the oil which they may or may not eat may or may not exist. It was your comment about 'fake snake oil' in the first place. Is that snake oil that is fake or real oil for fake snakes? I think we should be told. You both seem to misunderstand what snake oil is, as you both seem to envisage feeding it to snakes, rather than consuming it yourselves. Snake oil is made using parts of snake, and may be beneficial for some conditions- bags of omega even compared to oily fish. On the other hand fake snake oil probably omits the snake parts and therefore most of the benefit. Allow me to sell you some of the genuine stuff... |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Jun 19, 2024 21:17:11 GMT
I have no opinion about whether snakes exist or not, or whether they eat oil or not, or whether the oil which they may or may not eat may or may not exist. It was your comment about 'fake snake oil' in the first place. Is that snake oil that is fake or real oil for fake snakes? I think we should be told. I expect it is hippopotamus oil falsely labelled as 100% Adder Oil. Possibly with a reference in the small print to the mathematical abilities of hippopotami. |
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Post by observer on Jun 19, 2024 21:27:58 GMT
It was your comment about 'fake snake oil' in the first place. Is that snake oil that is fake or real oil for fake snakes? I think we should be told. You both seem to misunderstand what snake oil is, as you both seem to envisage feeding it to snakes, rather than consuming it yourselves. Snake oil is made using parts of snake, and may be beneficial for some conditions- bags of omega even compared to oily fish. On the other hand fake snake oil probably omits the snake parts and therefore most of the benefit. Allow me to sell you some of the genuine stuff... I actually had to kill an adder with a mallet and secateurs last year |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jun 19, 2024 21:36:26 GMT
It was your comment about 'fake snake oil' in the first place. Is that snake oil that is fake or real oil for fake snakes? I think we should be told. You both seem to misunderstand what snake oil is, as you both seem to envisage feeding it to snakes, rather than consuming it yourselves. Snake oil is made using parts of snake, and may be beneficial for some conditions- bags of omega even compared to oily fish. On the other hand fake snake oil probably omits the snake parts and therefore most of the benefit. Allow me to sell you some of the genuine stuff... Is snake oil made with a snake press? |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jun 19, 2024 21:40:16 GMT
You both seem to misunderstand what snake oil is, as you both seem to envisage feeding it to snakes, rather than consuming it yourselves. Snake oil is made using parts of snake, and may be beneficial for some conditions- bags of omega even compared to oily fish. On the other hand fake snake oil probably omits the snake parts and therefore most of the benefit. Allow me to sell you some of the genuine stuff... Is snake oil made with a snake press? Don't ask now baby oil is made. |
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Post by right on Jun 19, 2024 21:46:02 GMT
You both seem to misunderstand what snake oil is, as you both seem to envisage feeding it to snakes, rather than consuming it yourselves. Snake oil is made using parts of snake, and may be beneficial for some conditions- bags of omega even compared to oily fish. On the other hand fake snake oil probably omits the snake parts and therefore most of the benefit. Allow me to sell you some of the genuine stuff... Is snake oil made with a snake press? It's a small scale operation |
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 19, 2024 22:18:50 GMT
You both seem to misunderstand what snake oil is, as you both seem to envisage feeding it to snakes, rather than consuming it yourselves. Snake oil is made using parts of snake, and may be beneficial for some conditions- bags of omega even compared to oily fish. On the other hand fake snake oil probably omits the snake parts and therefore most of the benefit. Allow me to sell you some of the genuine stuff... Is snake oil made with a snake press? A boa constrictor probably |
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Post by johnloony on Jun 20, 2024 10:28:08 GMT
You both seem to misunderstand what snake oil is, as you both seem to envisage feeding it to snakes, rather than consuming it yourselves. Snake oil is made using parts of snake, and may be beneficial for some conditions- bags of omega even compared to oily fish. On the other hand fake snake oil probably omits the snake parts and therefore most of the benefit. Allow me to sell you some of the genuine stuff... I actually had to kill an adder with a mallet and secateurs last year The only time I’ve seen a snake in the wild was in Germany |
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Post by observer on Jun 20, 2024 10:54:43 GMT
I actually had to kill an adder with a mallet and secateurs last year The only time I’ve seen a snake in the wild was in Germany I'm in Spain and we get quite a few. We once found one in our swimming pool |
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Post by YL on Jun 21, 2024 6:22:30 GMT
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Post by right on Jun 21, 2024 6:52:01 GMT
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Post by johnloony on Jun 21, 2024 10:12:20 GMT
We Think poll for the Greens, reported in the Guardian: Green 23, Con 15, Lab 11, Reform 10, Lib Dem 4, won't vote 2, don't know 34 (obvious caveats are obvious) Sample size? |
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Post by owainsutton on Jun 21, 2024 11:11:24 GMT
We Think poll for the Greens, reported in the Guardian: Green 23, Con 15, Lab 11, Reform 10, Lib Dem 4, won't vote 2, don't know 34 (obvious caveats are obvious) Sample size? 500 |
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Post by YL on Jun 21, 2024 11:45:31 GMT
Here's a version of the poll figures with won't vote and don't know removed, and presumably with some extra weighting as they don't quite agree with the previous version:
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jun 21, 2024 11:48:01 GMT
Obviously it's just a poll, and I expect it to eventually go Tory, but I am beginning to ask whether this election is the moment the oligarchical 2 ½ party duopoly finally cracks. If we see a parliament with 500+ Labour MPs on 37%ish of the vote, and roughly equally sized Tories and Lib Dems and a smattering of Reform, Green and SNP it becomes quite hard to argue against some form of electoral reform.
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Post by John Chanin on Jun 21, 2024 11:52:14 GMT
You both seem to misunderstand what snake oil is, as you both seem to envisage feeding it to snakes, rather than consuming it yourselves. Snake oil is made using parts of snake, and may be beneficial for some conditions- bags of omega even compared to oily fish. On the other hand fake snake oil probably omits the snake parts and therefore most of the benefit. Allow me to sell you some of the genuine stuff... I actually had to kill an adder with a mallet and secateurs last year That's awful. They are a protected species. |
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Post by graham on Jun 21, 2024 11:57:16 GMT
We Think poll for the Greens, reported in the Guardian: Green 23, Con 15, Lab 11, Reform 10, Lib Dem 4, won't vote 2, don't know 34 (obvious caveats are obvious) That is the poll for Waveney Valley - not North Herefordshire.
The separate poll for North Herefordshire came up with-
Green 21% Con 16% Lab 8% Ref 7% LD 2% NV 1% DK 44%
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Post by YL on Jun 21, 2024 12:05:16 GMT
We Think poll for the Greens, reported in the Guardian: Green 23, Con 15, Lab 11, Reform 10, Lib Dem 4, won't vote 2, don't know 34 (obvious caveats are obvious) That is the poll for Waveney Valley - not North Herefordshire. The separate poll for North Herefordshire came up with- Green 21% Con 16% Lab 8% Ref 7% LD 2% NV 1% DK 44%
Indeed, somehow they seem to have got swapped. Not sure whether that was the Guardian's fault or mine... Will edit. |
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 21, 2024 12:29:55 GMT
Even as things stand, Labour are still highly unlikely to get 500 MPs - and less so again with 37% of the vote (which only one proper pollster is currently claiming anyway)
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